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I have to admit--I thought the Colts would be favored by more, especially without Dareus. They're a better team because of Luck, and with Gore, they should be able to run it. I'm not saying the Bills don't have a chance, but I've long chalked this one up as a loss.

Yeah we really need to get out of this mindset of chalking up automatic losses before the season starts. We can win any game. We showed that vs GB last year. And now we have more weapons. If we're going to compete in the AFC this year, we have to believe that at our HOME OPENER that this is a win and that we can win.

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Yeah we really need to get out of this mindset of chalking up automatic losses before the season starts. We can win any game. We showed that vs GB last year. And now we have more weapons. If we're going to compete in the AFC this year, we have to believe that at our HOME OPENER that this is a win and that we can win.

i don't think any game on the NFL can ever be chalked up as anything. Win or loss. This isn't CFB. Any Given Sunday and One Game at a Time are cliches but it is absolutely true in this league.

I know many Colts fans are nervous that their Xfactor in the game, the QB, is being protected by a crap OL and they are facing the best DL in the league on the road in one of the toughest places to play. Luck is a below .500 QB on the road.

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My biggest concern, our secondary.

I know Cutler isn't Luck but last year we went into the Bears game without Gilmore and still won, despite their offense at the time being thought of as SB caliber with the WRs, TE and RB. Missing McKelvin sucks but we have a really good secondary regardless. Luck will target Darby a ton but he will have safety help.

 

Last year in Cleveland, Luck targeted "Justin Gilbert the Train Wreck" like he will Darby and JG got a pick 6.

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i was hoping to be 7 point dogs so i could make some money. we typically play well to start the season, especially at home. i think at the very least it will be a close game. if we lose it will be by a last second FG or late scoring drive. i think our defense will keep them in check for most of the game but in the end our secondary will collapse and give up some big plays. TY Hilton will probably scorch us a few times.

 

the real difference maker will be us not scoring TD's on offense. you need to get that 7 and stop trying to play it safe and get the 3. too many teams that get inside the 30 are happy to run the ball a few times and then kick a FG. the good teams are the ones that are able to finish the drive and punch it in the endzone. that's one of my biggest pet peeves. that and punting on 4th and 1 or taking a sack to get knocked out of FG range. i also hate when it's 3rd and short and our CB's are 10 yards off the receivers. i usually start yelling at the tv when those types of things happen.

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Sure it's a loss, but per usual your take is a little overboard. The two Bryants (Corbin and Red) are very good replacements and the Bills have had all summer to prepare for Dareus' absence in this one game.

 

 

They couldn't handle Carr and the Raiders without Dareus...

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I know Cutler isn't Luck but last year we went into the Bears game without Gilmore and still won, despite their offense at the time being thought of as SB caliber with the WRs, TE and RB. Missing McKelvin sucks but we have a really good secondary regardless. Luck will target Darby a ton but he will have safety help.

 

Last year in Cleveland, Luck targeted "Justin Gilbert the Train Wreck" like he will Darby and JG got a pick 6.

Good point, I was pleasantly surprised with our secondary that day. What a great game that was. Currently watching the highlights again. Can't wait for this season to start. I hope the weather is perfect.

Corey Graham was a great pick up imo.

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Good point. What a great game that was. Currently watching the highlights again. Can't wait for this season to start. I hope the weather is perfect.

 

Corey Graham was a great pick up imo.

i almost forgot we were missing Bradham for that game too. Rookie Preston Brown had to start and struggled vs the TE but also forced a fumble. Edited by YoloinOhio
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Our d will be fine, I can see a couple sacks, fumble and interception. Tyrd, with Sammy and clay should be able to burn their secondary, McCoy will get about 140 yes running and pass catching, tyrd will play great, it could easily be a long day for Indy d.

 

Is it really that much harder to add the "o" into the guy's name instead of calling him a TERD?

 

If you like the guy, which it appears you do, why are you calling him a terd?

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On that particular day, even with Dareus, they probably wouldn't have handled the Raiders. Simply a bad day for us and a good day for them.

Yolo brought up a good point earlier too. That happened mid-game. This time we know Dareus will be out so we can game plan.

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For me, I will hold off anything until I see the dress rehearsal game Saturday.Should have a much better idea of what this team really is after that.

But remember also, the +3 is the gambling line, which exists to get a portion of the betting public to bet the way that balances out the betting. And in this case they must feel the betting public (as a whole, not just in Buffalo NY) aren't Billievers and need a little push to bet on the Bills.

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I watched the Colts vs Chicago in last weeks preseason game. I only saw about 25 minutes of the game but it was when the 1st stringers were out there. I noticed that Chicago's D was winning at the line of scrimmage consistently. Lots of pressure on Luck. So, I am not sure on the strength of the Colts O Line. Again, only Week 2 in preseason, plus only a 25 minute glimpse, but I think as good as the Colts are, they are vulnerable. Also, I'm not sold on Gore.

 

HUGE Week 1 for Bills (very good Colts team plus conference game) ... if they can beat the Colts, we are off to a great start and we can believe a little more in this team.

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My biggest concern, our secondary.

That's my biggest concern too.

 

Even if the pass rush is there, which I expect it to be with our defense, Luck can still beat you.

 

I am hoping that our safeties lay some big hits Indy's receivers early in the game and keep them thinking they are going to get hit again. That should help.

 

And we have to get a running game going to be able to move the chains and control the football. Indy will have a hard time racking up points if we keep their offense on the sideline. If we can run the ball, and I think we will do that successfully, then we can win this game. Otherwise, I am not confident.

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I think the line (+3) sounds about right. We are missing our best player for the game.

 

If our defense comes out and shuts down Luck and co, I'd start to rethink giving Dareus $100 million. But the truth is that our defense isn't as good when he's not on the field. The offense is going to have to put up points for us to win this one. The turnover battle is going to be huge.

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Yeah we really need to get out of this mindset of chalking up automatic losses before the season starts. We can win any game. We showed that vs GB last year. And now we have more weapons. If we're going to compete in the AFC this year, we have to believe that at our HOME OPENER that this is a win and that we can win.

 

I can easily see a win or a loss in the first game. With Andrew Luck you have a guy who can look bad for most of the game and still throw 3 TDs in the 4th quarter if he got hot.

 

Hopefully they choose Taylor (if it's between Cassle and Taylor) because if the Bills have a two score lead he can create clock draining drives in the second half by having the ability to run for 1st downs if need be.

 

The Bills must win against the Pats if they are starting Garrapalo though. A loss there would be humiliating for this this franchise who see themselves as a playoff contender.

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That's my biggest concern too.

 

Even if the pass rush is there, which I expect it to be with our defense, Luck can still beat you.

 

I am hoping that our safeties lay some big hits Indy's receivers early in the game and keep them thinking they are going to get hit again. That should help.

 

And we have to get a running game going to be able to move the chains and control the football. Indy will have a hard time racking up points if we keep their offense on the sideline. If we can run the ball, and I think we will do that successfully, then we can win this game. Otherwise, I am not confident.

imo you go into it knowing you will not completely stop Luck. You don't depend on your defense and hope for a low scoring game. You go into it knowing you need TDs not FGs and must move the ball, control the clock and keep Luck off the field. In other words, you put the onus on the offense, not the defense.

 

The defense will be fine and I expect them to do their thing, but again there is no defense for the perfect pass, and Luck has those in spades.

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