SWATeam Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Yea, but the 4+ years of professional coaching should be closing that gap pretty quickly now, no? Yes, I agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 And he will continue to be better than you think and get even better. He is one of the most underrated players I've known watching the Bills for 13 years. We have had lots of overrated players in that time, few underrated ones. Bills were 1-6 when Hogan & Chandler combined for 7+ catches. Only win was the Vikings and they are bad. Teams were fine with those guys catching the ball because they couldn't hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Bills were 1-6 when Hogan & Chandler combined for 7+ catches. Only win was the Vikings and they are bad. Teams were fine with those guys catching the ball because they couldn't hurt them. You presumably think we'd have been better with Goodwin catching those balls? Hard to know though isn't it because if you happened to be at the fridge grabbing another beer it was possible to miss Goodwin's contribution to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 You presumably think we'd have been better with Goodwin catching those balls? Hard to know though isn't it because if you happened to be at the fridge grabbing another beer it was possible to miss Goodwin's contribution to the season. Goodwin suffered from Marrone's Disease. Marrone wouldn't play him even when he was healthy. If you want to say Marrone knew what he was talking about on offense last year feel free. I doubt it helps your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Goodwin suffered from Marrone's Disease. Marrone wouldn't play him even when he was healthy. If you want to say Marrone knew what he was talking about on offense last year feel free. I doubt it helps your case. He held him out some games I agree. But Goodwin didn't perform last year even when he was on the field to argue different is to distort the truth. Whatever higher ceiling or greater potential you guys might think he has Hogan has the production to back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 You presumably think we'd have been better with Goodwin catching those balls? Hard to know though isn't it because if you happened to be at the fridge grabbing another beer it was possible to miss Goodwin's contribution to the season. I personally do. If you asked a D Coordinator would you rather have to cover Hogan or Goodwin what do you think they preferred? Again, Hogan is an NFL receiver but he can be replaced fairly easily. That's why he has kicked around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 He held him out some games I agree. But Goodwin didn't perform last year even when he was on the field to argue different is to distort the truth. Whatever higher ceiling or greater potential you guys might think he has Hogan has the production to back it up. That I have to agree and concede. Hogan has had better production. It looks to me, as of now, that Rex plans on keeping six, and that they will both make the team. Very hard cuts coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Bills were 1-6 when Hogan & Chandler combined for 7+ catches. Only win was the Vikings and they are bad. Teams were fine with those guys catching the ball because they couldn't hurt them.Odd stat... Yes, teams throw more when there losing- shocking. Anyways, Vikings are not that bad and hogan's catch in that game was rediculus. Catch of the year for the bills, thanks for bringing that game up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Odd stat... Yes, teams throw more when there losing- shocking. Anyways, Vikings are not that bad and hogan's catch in that game was rediculus. Catch of the year for the bills, thanks for bringing that game up That was a huge play and all but won the game for us. I was hoping he would take a big step after that. Hardly a ridiculous catch though. He jumped as high as he could and then caught it in his stomach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There are some very hard cuts coming up this is true and listen if we cut Hogan I will be bummed about it for a couple of days because I think we will regret it he is a better player than given credit for and I will fear we have kept too many similar guys but at the end of the day we have good depth there and I wouldn't be disappointed to see Thompson or Goodwin or Davis make the team, just that I'd be a bit disappointed that Hogan hadn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 There are some very hard cuts coming up this is true and listen if we cut Hogan I will be bummed about it for a couple of days because I think we will regret it he is a better player than given credit for and I will fear we have kept too many similar guys but at the end of the day we have good depth there and I wouldn't be disappointed to see Thompson or Goodwin or Davis make the team, just that I'd be a bit disappointed that Hogan hadn't. Fwiw I think they should keep Hogan over Thompson or Davis who have both looked good. I also think they should keep him if they can get away with three TE and keep six. The wildcard for me is Thigpen. He's an excellent KR/PR and our top PR and KR without him are both hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Fwiw I think they should keep Hogan over Thompson or Davis who have both looked good. I also think they should keep him if they can get away with three TE and keep six. The wildcard for me is Thigpen. He's an excellent KR/PR and our top PR and KR without him are both hurt. Harvin better be returning kicks this year if he ever gets healthy or else I think he is a waste of whatever ridiculous price we are paying him. The one year rental of Percy Harvin is going to cost us a talented receiver who might have had a long term future on this team. I am not really a fan of the Harvin move at all. He has a lot to do to win me over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Bills were 1-6when Hogan & Chandler combined for 7+ catches. Only win was the Vikings and they are bad. Teams were fine with those guys catching the ball because they couldn't hurt them.1-5. Point still stands. Edit: In fairness, it's more of an indictment of the QB's. They averaged 45 attempts in losses. 38 was the lowest attempt total in a loss. Edited August 22, 2015 by LBSeeBallLBGetBall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Harvin better be returning kicks this year if he ever gets healthy or else I think he is a waste of whatever ridiculous price we are paying him. The one year rental of Percy Harvin is going to cost us a talented receiver who might have had a long term future on this team. I am not really a fan of the Harvin move at all. He has a lot to do to win me over. Hard to tell by the post? I am not a fan of Harvin's hip injury right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 22, 2015 Author Share Posted August 22, 2015 @JonTWCNews: Asked Rex if injuries will hurt guys chances of making team. His response "Hard to make the club when you're in the tub." #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Odd stat... Yes, teams throw more when there losing- shocking. Anyways, Vikings are not that bad and hogan's catch in that game was rediculus. Catch of the year for the bills, thanks for bringing that game up Sammy in Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hogan to IR as long as they truly want to hang on to these young studs and see if they develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Hogan to IR as long as they truly want to hang on to these young studs and see if they develop. Its something to consider i bet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Sammy in Detroit. Yessir! Beat me to it. What a play from Mr. Watkins on a ball thrown way behind him to win us a ball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 (edited) Odd stat... Yes, teams throw more when there losing- shocking. Anyways, Vikings are not that bad and hogan's catch in that game was rediculus. Catch of the year for the bills, thanks for bringing that game up That was meant to read "the Bills were bad in the Vikings game." It autocorrected on me. 1-5. Point still stands. Edit: In fairness, it's more of an indictment of the QB's. They averaged 45 attempts in losses. 38 was the lowest attempt total in a loss. Oops, my bad. Teams can't take away everyone. It isn't coincidental to me that the more that those two saw the ball the worse off the team was. I haven't looked but I would bet that the Bills were pretty good when Watkins and Woods caught 10+. Edited August 22, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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