Kelly the Dog Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Bills should trade them Deonte Thompson for a 6th round draft pick. They saw first hand how none of their defensive backs could cover him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Reggie Wayne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Of course. My draft last included Cam and KB. Kill me now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 That sucks. What a blow for the Panthers when they're QB has panned out and looked like they could make some noise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Wish him the best on his recovery. Dude is a baller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 They can still win the division going 6-10 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 NFC South will be won by no better than an 8-8 team again. If we were in that division we would be an obvious play-off team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 NFC South will be won by no better than an 8-8 team again. If we were in that division we would be an obvious play-off team. I think Atlanta will surprise a few people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ko12010 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Can anyone with a medical background and/or strength training/PT background attempt a theory as to what is going on with NFL players tearing ACL seemingly so often? What gets me is that the ACL tears happen frequently on non/low contact plays. My thought is something I've seen others propose--that these guys have become SO big and SO muscular that their inertia when going one direction and then switching quickly to another creates a load that is too much for the knee to handle. It can't take the force of the change of direction and then tears. Now, I have no data that shows there are more ACL/knee ligament injuries than back in the day, but when OLineman used to be 240 pounds it's just a totally different scenario for the body. I also liken this to Tiger Woods' situation. He had already had knee troubles fairly early in his career because of the sheer viciousness of his swing, especially the snapping motion of his left knee through impact. His trainers/doctors told him not to get above 180 lbs because his knee couldn't handle the load, yet he ignored them and bulked up to almost 200 lbs, having an especially large upper body. Are these guys TOO big and muscular for their own good? Also, this got me thinking. I'm surprised that sports doctors haven't yet come out with a way to provide reinforcement to the ligaments of athletes, especially in the knees, in an effort to prevent tears. These guys and girls are absolute beasts compared to athletes of years ago, yet the vulnerabilities of the joints and ligaments remain unchanged. Yes, the treatments are better for tears, but I just wonder when someone will be proactive about things like ACL tears and actually create procedures to help prevent these injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 That sucks. He was going to be a huge part of the Panthers offensive attack. Fantasy wise I loved his potential as Newton only really had him and Olsen to throw to. As mentioned these joint practices don't seem to do anything but result in injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Yeah, seems like all these joint practices are good for are injuries and brawls. Should be called "Joint, Muscle, and Ligament Injury Practice" Edited August 19, 2015 by JTSP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 My #1 target in my keeper league this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Can anyone with a medical background and/or strength training/PT background attempt a theory as to what is going on with NFL players tearing ACL seemingly so often? What gets me is that the ACL tears happen frequently on non/low contact plays. My thought is something I've seen others propose--that these guys have become SO big and SO muscular that their inertia when going one direction and then switching quickly to another creates a load that is too much for the knee to handle. It can't take the force of the change of direction and then tears. Now, I have no data that shows there are more ACL/knee ligament injuries than back in the day, but when OLineman used to be 240 pounds it's just a totally different scenario for the body. I also liken this to Tiger Woods' situation. He had already had knee troubles fairly early in his career because of the sheer viciousness of his swing, especially the snapping motion of his left knee through impact. His trainers/doctors told him not to get above 180 lbs because his knee couldn't handle the load, yet he ignored them and bulked up to almost 200 lbs, having an especially large upper body. Are these guys TOO big and muscular for their own good? Also, this got me thinking. I'm surprised that sports doctors haven't yet come out with a way to provide reinforcement to the ligaments of athletes, especially in the knees, in an effort to prevent tears. These guys and girls are absolute beasts compared to athletes of years ago, yet the vulnerabilities of the joints and ligaments remain unchanged. Yes, the treatments are better for tears, but I just wonder when someone will be proactive about things like ACL tears and actually create procedures to help prevent these injuries. overtraining and not enough recovery time. Guys of all sizes are going down, not just bigger ones like benjamin. Stretching is probably the worst thing ... ligaments shouldn't be stretched, all that does is weaken them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Unfortunate, but the nature of the game. So many good young ones have gone down over the years, including Bills. I remember when we had a monster rookie fullback named Ben Gregory, who everybody was raving about. He tore up his knee in one of his first few games and never made it effectively back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacarri and coke Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I am a NASM certified trainer and I can tell you for the most part ligaments don't stretch...The philosophy is to strengthen the stabilization muscles around a joint by putting the body in an unstable environment .After sufficiently strengthening those muscles you can support more strenuous conditions.The body has a natural defence system built in to combat over stressing muscles,tendons and ligaments.A good example would be hypertension of your elbow and the reaction being your bicep flexing uncontrolled as a response to the stress.Theses athletes push that envelope of power and speed and that reaction sort of adapts to being pushed further and further.It could be conditioning but these strength and conditioning coaches are really good.More likely it's just bad luck combined with pushing the natural boundaries of the body a little to far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Wonder who the team will get now that K.B. is out for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Wonder who the team will get now that K.B. is out for the year.indy has a WR or 2 to spare. And you just know Grigson will trade the best one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 indy has a WR or 2 to spare. And you just know Grigson will trade the best one. dont we have eleven? sure only 4 or 5 of them are injured. Surely we can trade one to secure Dareus' contract. Grigson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 that's too bad. he looked really good vs us last week. this guy was unstoppable in college i would have been happy waiting and drafting him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 He's so good with his size and all so that's a big blow to the Panthers. I hate preseason injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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