RyanTalbotBills Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/story/1565441-bills-training-camp-battle-5-rbs-4-spots Who is the odd man out at RB? Most assume--myself included-- it's Bryce Brown, but Doug Whaley may have a say on the matter. In the article above, I discuss each RB and why they will or won't make the opening day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Its probably Bryce Brown and It might be boobie dixon though I really like his versitility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I don't assume that Whaley is attached to Bryce Brown beyond what he has and can prove in terms of his worth. GMs make great acquisitions and bad acquisitions. The good ones know when to move on, they don't stick with a guy just because he traded for him. If he isn't going to help the team more than another guy on the roster I don't think he will hesitate to move on. Jmo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 You know what will be really intersting is if Carlos Williams light it up in camp and preseason........ Not saying his is replacing Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Somehow I'm thinking that all five will play for The Bills this year. It's good to know its a pretty solid group though. Ha never can tell with injuries and dings and things that can happen during TC and preseason. It doesn't look like we'll have to be too concerned about that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) You know what will be really intersting is if Carlos Williams light it up in camp and preseason........ Not saying his is replacing Shady next year the 1-2 punch with be Shady and Karlos. This year I think it's still Shady and Fred but Karlos will spell Fred. They want to cut Fred's touches in half. IMO Karlos is Fred's eventual replacement. They are similar styles with how they catch the ball out of the backfield. Edited July 21, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It'll probably be Brown and that's too bad -- I think he's got a ton of potential. But I can't make a good case to drop any of the other 4 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It'll probably be Brown and that's too bad -- I think he's got a ton of potential. But I can't make a good case to drop any of the other 4 guys.i have been defending Bryce since the trade went down. I agree he has potential. Tons of talent. But something is holding him back everywhere he's been. I don't see the heart/commitment it takes to be successful NFL RB. They should trade him to the Cowboys for a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 next year the 1-2 punch with be Shady and Karlos. This year I think it's still Shady and Fred but Karlos will spell Fred. They want to cut Fred's touches in half. IMO Karlos is Fred's eventual replacement. They are similar styles with how they catch the ball out of the backfield. Anyone else think Karlos reminds them of Antwain Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 i have been defending Bryce since the trade went down. I agree he has potential. Tons of talent. But something is holding him back everywhere he's been. I don't see the heart/commitment it takes to be successful NFL RB. They should trade him to the Cowboys for a draft pick. Same here. Loved watching him light it up while Shady was hurt and was excited to see we were going to give him a shot here. I don't know what his problem is, but for the amount of talent he has, there is no way he should have seen the field as little as he did if it wasn't at least a little his own fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I suspect it will be down to Brown or Karlos. If they cut Karlos they will try to keep him on the practice squad. Although if Freddie or Boobie look like crap and the other two looks good then they could be on the block. Outside of Shady I don't think anyone is safe. Camp performance will be huge for these backs. Although I think Bryce Brown is the most vulnerable the other three aren't untouchable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 53 man roster comes down to the coaching staff even though I am sure there will be input from management. Boobie is valuable on special teams unless Karlos Williams proves he is equivalent or better. I see Bryce Brown getting cut but you never know with injuries and things. So depth is valuable in the event another team loses an rb maybe a deal can be made for one of the players on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 It'll probably be Brown and that's too bad -- I think he's got a ton of potential. But I can't make a good case to drop any of the other 4 guys. really the only case vs boobie is high pay for a potentially small role. if karlos gets to #3, either of those is the 4th back and possibly not active on gameday, bryce is cheaper and has plenty of upside (and if neither are here for 2016, cutting boobie now and letting bryce walk in a year is better for comp picks than cutting bryce now and cutting boobie next year wouldnt get you anything). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Yes, it's too soon to make a decision because there is a lot that needs to be determined in camp and in the preseason. I'm confident that the FO knows what it's doing and that they'll play their hand properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Anyone else think Karlos reminds them of Antwain Smith? Bigger in size, kinda stiff and upright? I can see some of that, and I don't mean that in a bad way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 next year the 1-2 punch with be Shady and Karlos. This year I think it's still Shady and Fred but Karlos will spell Fred. They want to cut Fred's touches in half. IMO Karlos is Fred's eventual replacement. They are similar styles with how they catch the ball out of the backfield. It'll probably be Brown and that's too bad -- I think he's got a ton of potential. But I can't make a good case to drop any of the other 4 guys. Basically covered my thoughts on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 really the only case vs boobie is high pay for a potentially small role. if karlos gets to #3, either of those is the 4th back and possibly not active on gameday, bryce is cheaper and has plenty of upside (and if neither are here for 2016, cutting boobie now and letting bryce walk in a year is better for comp picks than cutting bryce now and cutting boobie next year wouldnt get you anything). I think that's why they drafted Karlos. He seems like he can step into Boobie's role. Brown's a good insurance policy to have if McCoy gets injured. He's the only other home-run threat in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 Re Boobie vs Brown... I assume Boobie would be part of the ST squad.. but then that'd mean possibly sitting Karlos/Brown, since dressing 4 RBs on game day would be... odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 (edited) Re Boobie vs Brown... I assume Boobie would be part of the ST squad.. but then that'd mean possibly sitting Karlos/Brown, since dressing 4 RBs on game day would be... odd.boobie is too valuable on ST to not dress him. And he is "ground and pound" type RB for short yardage. I get that Karlos can play ST too but until he demonstrates he is as impactful as Boobie in games, I don't think Boobie is cut or inactive. I think brown is gone either way. If he has a tremendous camp they put Karlos on the PS. If he doesn't have a tremendous camp (more likely) they try to showcase him in Preseason and trade him for a pick or if they can't then they cut him. Ultimately I think they will wait until the last minute on him because they need RB depth with this offense, in case someone gets hurt in camp. Edited July 21, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted July 21, 2015 Share Posted July 21, 2015 I'm just glad we have this stable heading into camp. You never know, an injury could make the decision for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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