NoSaint Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Interesting comment on the previous coaches vis a vis his comment about Kromer (below). I normally don't put much stock in this sort of comment, but this is a guy who had good coaching at Alabama: "Without being politically correct hes probably one of the greatest coaches Ive ever had because he tells us a lot of things that I didnt know, and they work, said Kouandjio. A lot of coaches like to tell you a bunch of techniques that are basically like throwing a band aid on a problem, but those dont work. He tells you a whole bunch of things that do work. Hes really detailed so there are no gray lines. Hes a great coach so its up to you to execute what he tells you to do. Im just glad to have him. I know people thought I was crazy when I was pushing kromer before Marrone even left.... Starting to grow on people a little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 (edited) I know people thought I was crazy when I was pushing kromer before Marrone even left.... Starting to grow on people a little?I said this last week, and I don't know if it is true, but I think that what may have happened last year was Marrone would come over in training camp and in practices and work specifically with the offensive linemen for a short while but way more than with any other position, which obviously the position coaches and coordinators would work with. And he would be "teaching" them technique, as he was pretty highly regarded at one time as an OL coach. But perhaps he was teaching 10% of the time a certain philosophy which as HC the players would certainly put a lot of stock in, and 90% of the time they were being taught by Guy Morris, and Hackett, who has no background at all in OL play. Those three voices could have been wildly different to the linemen and contributed greatly to their confusion and lack of cohesion. Granted, normally I would also think that these guys are professionals. No way they would do this. But after watching what Marrone actually did do with Pears and other OL and the offense as a whole and the Saint Doug crap he pulled, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility one bit. Edited June 22, 2015 by Kelly the Dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I said this last week, and I don't know if it is true, but I think that what may have happened last year was Marrone would come over in training camp and in practices and work specifically with the offensive linemen for a short while but way more than with any other position, which obviously the position coaches and coordinators would work with. And he would be "teaching" them technique, as he was pretty highly regarded at one time as an OL coach. But perhaps he was teaching 10% of the time a certain philosophy which as HC the players would certainly put a lot of stock in, and 90% of the time they were being taught by Guy Morris, and Hackett, who has no background at all in OL play. Those three voices could have been wildly different to the linemen and contributed greatly to their confusion and lack of cohesion. Granted, normally I would also think that these guys are professionals. No way they would do this. But after watching what Marrone actually did do with Pears and other OL and the offense as a whole and the Saint Doug crap he pulled, I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility one bit. I don't know how, precisely, the coaches worked (other than not well), but judging from comments by some of the players it certainly appears to have been a "too many cooks in the kitchen" scenario. I won't be surprised to see across-the-board improvement on the OL, if for no other reason than they are hearing one consistent voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 @SalSports: Mario Williams: Cyrus Kouandjio's arm length is a huge asset: http://t.co/9ENFdXISDB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 One player who should get a lot of attention as a potential priority free agent is Tyson Chandler (6-foot-5 3/4, 331 pounds), and for one reason -- his arms. Coaches today believe that long arms are the most important thing in the development of an offensive lineman, and Chandler's arms measure 36 5/8 inches. Chandler also ran a 5.40 and 5.38 in the 40. He had a 4.84 short shuttle and 7.99 3-cone drill. He had a 27 1/2-inch vertical and 9-2 broad jump. And he had 31 strength lifts, which is really impressive for a guy who's got arms as long as he does. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000480925/article/longarmed-ol-intrigues-teams-at-north-carolina-state-pro-day Talking about long arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hope Chandler makes the 53 roster here, I doubt he could hide on the PS for long. He will take awhile to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Seems Henderson is in Rex's doghouse - don't know if he'll get out I don't think Rex keeps a permanent set of doghouse residents. Unlike Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I don't think Rex keeps a permanent set of doghouse residents. Unlike Marrone. i think he's giving him a swift kick in the arse and hoping he responds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I don't think Rex keeps a permanent set of doghouse residents. Unlike Marrone. The Doughouse is like The Hotel California. You can check out any time you like but you can never leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Are there also mirrors on the ceiling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 One thing that really stuck out to me when Kujo was giving an interview was talking about his "balance" and working on that in the OL bootcamp this summer (and is going back to it till training camp starts) To me that was a huge issue with Kujo last year......DL would just work him in camp by going after his inability to maintain his balance laterally...........Kujo's strength was NEVER an issue from what I could see.....but he has to be able to slide out and keep DE's from taking an outside rush to the QB...then he needs to be able to keep his balance when they fake the outside rush then go inside (and hopefully now a OG will be good enough there to be able to help him out with that assignment) The OG play last year was so bad with Pears......I feel like we just dont have an honest evaluation of kujo AND Seantrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 @SalSports: Mario Williams: Cyrus Kouandjio's arm length is a huge asset: http://t.co/9ENFdXISDB Hope he grew a set of feet. Can you say politics ? Whaley`s prize pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hope he grew a set of feet. Can you say politics ? Whaley`s prize pick. Please. If that were the case, EJ would have been made the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Please. If that were the case, EJ would have been made the starter. That's Buddy`s pick. Oh yeah Fred IS politics also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Man on a mission and just got engaged. Very focused right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The kid is young. Lets hope he shows improvement this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 That's Buddy`s pick. Oh yeah Fred IS politics also. WTF Where does this comment have ANY place in this discussion crusader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 That's Buddy`s pick. Oh yeah Fred IS politics also. I heard Whaley talk after EJ was drafted and I don't believe he wasn't fully on board with the pick. As for Fred, not cutting him might have been politics, but they also didn't need to cut him. If he merits a spot, he'll get it, otherwise he won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I know people thought I was crazy when I was pushing kromer before Marrone even left.... Starting to grow on people a little? You only wanted Kromer as Cutler contraception, so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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