YoloinOhio Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Tuel's farewell tweet. Seemed like a nice kid. @qb10jvt: Thank you Buffalo for the love and support. You guys are truly great fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 In his defense I was on that cruise with the 1 coaches' dad (2 years in a row actually). His son is on the current staff and the last staff (offensive side) and he said that they don't believe in him. Take it with a grain of salt and things can change but there is some of that sentiment within the building. I'm not sure that translates to him being cut but there are concerns. They don't think that he goes through his progressions fast enough. I could care less who wins the job and it is a little odd that there seem to be factions on here that hate a particular guy. At the end of the day we all have our opinions but we should defer to the coaches and support whoever it ends up being. It would be hard to believe they didn't have strong concerns that he might never be good. I don't think even his biggest supporters here have the same concerns. No one ever says he's good. The only thing anyone ever says is that he has played good at times and we don't know for sure he sucks, he may have just been held back. Frankly, I don't trust any of those offensive coaches from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 And exactly what does EJ have to be named number 1? Where there's smoke there's usually fire. EJ has barely released a puff. FWIW the only smoke I see is comming from the hard core EJ detractors Imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It would be hard to believe they didn't have strong concerns that he might never be good. I don't think even his biggest supporters here have the same concerns. No one ever says he's good. The only thing anyone ever says is that he has played good at times and we don't know for sure he sucks, he may have just been held back. Frankly, I don't trust any of those offensive coaches from last year. Ha ha, I don't disagree at all. This guy actually liked Marrone!!! There is some of that sentiment at OBD but that doesn't mean that they love any of these guys. The reality is the QB situation hasn't been good in forever and they won 9 games last year. This team is stacked regardless of who is under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It sounds like the Bills need to beef up their scouting staff for QBs for the next draft just in case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 (edited) It sounds like the Bills need to beef up their scouting staff for QBs for the next draft just in case they should just use a TBD poll asking which QB they should draft and when. #wearealwaysright #exceptwhenwerenot #big10plz Edited May 30, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It sounds like the Bills need to beef up their scouting staff for QBs for the next draft just in case There are a bunch next year (Hackenberg, Cook, Cardale, Goff, Brissett). Some of them will be franchise guys and some won't. Hopefully, we get the right guy if we take one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Could this be a simple as since they are running two fields and need the arm? Simms is much more familiar with the Ryan process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 Could this be a simple as since they are running two fields and need the arm? Simms is much more familiar with the Ryan process? Nope. That's a process that Greg Roman brought to the Bills from the 49ers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Jeff Tuel never even got 14 starts in the NFL. I don't see how it is possible for the coaches to determine that he will never be a top tier starting QB in the NFL. But what magic to they exercise such judgement? Nice. I see what you did there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Nope. That's a process that Greg Roman brought to the Bills from the 49ers. Ah ha. consider it filed. But isnt Simms still a better fit for a camp arm? I have read nothing special about him. ever. Nice. I see what you did there. i too saw that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Ha ha, I don't disagree at all. This guy actually liked Marrone!!! There is some of that sentiment at OBD but that doesn't mean that they love any of these guys. The reality is the QB situation hasn't been good in forever and they won 9 games last year. This team is stacked regardless of who is under center. I truly think that the relationship between Whaley & Marrone broke down last spring when Whaley didn't do anything to upgrade the QB position & depth. I don't think it's a coincidence that the meltdown in August was over the QB position and Whaley had to go hard after the only available legit QB still out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I truly think that the relationship between Whaley & Marrone broke down last spring when Whaley didn't do anything to upgrade the QB position & depth. I don't think it's a coincidence that the meltdown in August was over the QB position and Whaley had to go hard after the only available legit QB still out there. Well, fortunately St. Doug worked one of his 2 miracles to win 9 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It would be hard to believe they didn't have strong concerns that he might never be good. I don't think even his biggest supporters here have the same concerns. No one ever says he's good. The only thing anyone ever says is that he has played good at times and we don't know for sure he sucks, he may have just been held back. Frankly, I don't trust any of those offensive coaches from last year. There is no question that Hackett was in over his head, and Marrone wasn't helping at all. I think "the Saint" was more concerned over helping his buddy the ST coach then the OC. EJ even stated he learned far more from watching Orton prepare for a game then he ever did from Hackett. So anything Whaley derived from the last years coaching staff is basically worthless IMO. Just think in EJ's first year in the NFL in 2013 all he had to learn from was Hackett. With no QB coach, along with rookies Thad Lewis, Jeff Tuel. What a clusterF of stupidity! Then last year Hackett goes pass happy all year with virtually no run game from the week four Texans game and on. Forty plus passes almost every game from Orton, and to his credit the guy managed to go 7-5. Its my take that Hackett tried to throw the entire offensive book at EJ and he wasn't up to the task of 40 passes per game behind that godawful line. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that Hackett threw EJ under the bus to the FO, and put all the blame for EJ not developing quickly enough on EJ. Besides, 14 game starts being mentored by a moron doesn't count at all in my view. This season EJ is going to be playing in a near perfect run first system for him to develop properly, and he now has a decent receiving corps to throw it to. If Greg Roman can set up an offensive game plan like Cam Cameron set up for Joe Flacco then I think we may see quite an improvement in EJ this year. Jeff Tuel was a wasted roster spot from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 It would be hard to believe they didn't have strong concerns that he might never be good. I don't think even his biggest supporters here have the same concerns. No one ever says he's good. The only thing anyone ever says is that he has played good at times and we don't know for sure he sucks, he may have just been held back. Frankly, I don't trust any of those offensive coaches from last year. This pretty much sums up how I feel. I saw EJ play well at times, play poorly at times, but the overall feeling I have is that we have absolutely no idea whether he can be good or not because of that schittstorm of an offensive coaching staff he was dealing with. This summer we will find out. I have infinitely more trust in what a guy like Roman thinks, and I will be comfortable with the decision they make. And that said, I am really rooting for EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Ah ha. consider it filed. But isnt Simms still a better fit for a camp arm? I have read nothing special about him. ever. i too saw that I do now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonechiller Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 they should just use a TBD poll asking which QB they should draft and when. #wearealwaysright #exceptwhenwerenot #big10plz I would say we are 90% correct at least half the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I liked Tuel. One pass goes different, maybe he be our starter right now! I think the same thing about Manuel and the Houston game. Of course, you can start a lot of sentences with "One pass goes different..." and fill in the rest with just about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I still think he will outlast EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I still think he will outlast EJ. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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