BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 And to think back on all of the chatter about drafting Warmack at 8th overall...Whaley's best move might've been trading out of the top 10 and netting the pick that brought Kiko Shady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Warmack wasn't bad last year. Tennessee had no talent at the RB position and virtually no passing game to help. Still not playing to top 10 status, but I for some unknown reason I felt like defending him a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 That guaranteed money conflicts what the Bills themselves, the snooze and others reported. Don't have the time or interest to dig around for a link. But, maybe these guys are right? Bottom line this guy was eating Doritos and possibly would have been out of the league, when Whaley bid against himself to secure his services. is this in the Dockery range stupid? No. but I have to say I have concerns over Whaley and his team's ability to build a line and draft a QB. How many drafts and FA's does he need before he hits on just one? Incognito my be good or since he hasn't played in quite awhile could bust too. So many here just assume he is some friggin stud because he made the pro bowl. IMO he is a one year stop gap on this never ending search for guards that can play. So you bugged his agent's phone as well as go thru his trash .... what else do you do and will Kraft employ you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 updated June 04, 2015 at 2:58 PM The Bills have had strong attendance thus far in OTAs. Guard Chris Williams is the only player who hasn't reported, and head coach Rex Ryan said he still hasn't heard from him. http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/06/marcell_dareus_back_at_buffalo_bills_otas_percy_harvin_expected_back_next_week.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 updated June 04, 2015 at 2:58 PM The Bills have had strong attendance thus far in OTAs. Guard Chris Williams is the only player who hasn't reported, and head coach Rex Ryan said he still hasn't heard from him. http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/06/marcell_dareus_back_at_buffalo_bills_otas_percy_harvin_expected_back_next_week.html Probably will retire because of his back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) updated June 04, 2015 at 2:58 PM The Bills have had strong attendance thus far in OTAs. Guard Chris Williams is the only player who hasn't reported, and head coach Rex Ryan said he still hasn't heard from him. http://www.syracuse.com/buffalo-bills/index.ssf/2015/06/marcell_dareus_back_at_buffalo_bills_otas_percy_harvin_expected_back_next_week.html Maybe Chris has some guaranteed money that he knows will keep him warm ?? New coach / staff & he doesn't bother showing up for his job ?? I mean what else could he be doing that's more important than this ?? If he's retiring because of his back than just say so. Edited June 5, 2015 by mitchmurraydowntown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 he's done, one way or the other, cut or injury settlement. he has a $3.1 dead money cap hit if cut this season. cap hit if kept: 2015 - $3.350 2016 - $3.675 2017 - $3.725 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 he's done, one way or the other, cut or injury settlement. he has a $3.1 dead money cap hit if cut this season. cap hit if kept: 2015 - $3.350 2016 - $3.675 2017 - $3.725 What if he retires ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Williams needs to see the wizard for some heart. This waste of money reminds me of when the Yanks signed Carl Pavano. That dude took the money and didn't want to play too Probably will retire because of his back fat paycheck he received last year and no heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 What if he retires ? When a player is released (or retires), the team is relieved of having to pay the player’s base salary and any Roster Bonus that may become due after that, but still will need to account for any Signing or Option Bonus prorations that haven’t yet counted against the Salary Cap. The retirement of a player is treated the same as the release of a player. http://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 When a player is released (or retires), the team is relieved of having to pay the players base salary and any Roster Bonus that may become due after that, but still will need to account for any Signing or Option Bonus prorations that havent yet counted against the Salary Cap. The retirement of a player is treated the same as the release of a player. http://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ we paid the signing bonus, so we need to account for the signing bonus. otherwise you could give a vet a 5 year deal with all bonus instead of salary and let him retire only accounting for 1/5 of his compensation paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Williams needs to see the wizard for some heart. This waste of money reminds me of when the Yanks signed Carl Pavano. That dude took the money and didn't want to play too Pavano was genuinely hurt when he was on the Yankees. He did have a good season in 2010 with the Twins (17-11 with an above-league average 3.75 ERA with 222 IP). Pavano's problem was that he never struck enough people out and always had a high hits per inning ratio, even when he was with the Marlins. In a 14 year career, he had one good full season, one pretty good season, and one good half season. That's it. Edited June 5, 2015 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Pavano was genuinely hurt when he was on the Yankees. He did have a good season in 2010 with the Twins (17-11 with an above-league average 3.75 ERA with 222 IP). Pavano's problem was that he never struck enough people out and always had a high hits per inning ratio, even when he was with the Marlins. In a 14 year career, he had one good full season, one pretty good season, and one good half season. That's it. while he was supposedly hurt, my friends ran into Pavano on the golf course. They busted his balls mercilessly. Can't pitch, but healthy enought to golf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Coming out of college he had great technique, but had questionable character concerns. I really thought the signing was a good thing and that the Bills would give him the opportunity to flourish and enhance his pro game, given the fact this could be his last chance. I guess it hasn't happened and won't ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 while he was supposedly hurt, my friends ran into Pavano on the golf course. They busted his balls mercilessly. Can't pitch, but healthy enought to golf I hate to say it, but you can play golf and not be able to pitch. Pitching is brutal on your arm, and if you can't perform at the highest level you will get completely shelled in MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firemedic Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 There is also very little reason for a fan to be concerned about it I've never seen a linemans season ruined by missing a no pads, optional, practice in May. Nice to get good attendance but no need to dramaticize it I think everyone should show up, being that they're installing a new offense and that the OL is one of the big question marks going in....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I have a feeling Richie is going to be CW's roommate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I have a feeling Richie is going to be CW's roommate LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I have a feeling Richie is going to be CW's roommate Thats funny. I would guess he still has health issues and hoping to come back. is odd that we really no Nothing about this situation. What could be the agenda for Bills FO to keep mums on something like this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Think he is trying to do a Alan Branch, show up late, be cut and play for part of a season for another team and still collect his year for NFLPA. If he retires Bills can and should go for part of signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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