YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) http://nysportsbiz.com/2015/04/01/quit-sleeping-on-e-j-manuel-a-young-qbs-comparison/ Nice breakdown. I haven't delved into the latest EJ thread but it is very long, so if this was already posted there my apologies. Edited April 2, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Great article. Makes me feel almost comfortable with our offense this year. Basically says EJ needs to be a game manager with a run heavy offense. I can see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not sleeping just he needs to win the competition now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) What an article. Where Manuel Needs To Improve -Accuracy -Pocket Presence -Decision Making/Progressions -Staying Healthy If it was only so easy. Edited April 2, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Not sleeping just he needs to win the competition now... Yep…this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafter Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 What an article. Where Manuel Needs To Improve -Accuracy -Pocket Presence -Decision Making/Progressions -Staying Healthy If it was only so easy. Pretty much most major qualities a qb needs. Heh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I can understand how people can have doubt. What I cannot understand is how anyone can give up on a QB with less than a full season of playing time under his belt. I'm not the "I told you so," type, but when EJ wins the job and kicks ass this season, I might become one, temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 What an article. Where Manuel Needs To Improve -Accuracy -Pocket Presence -Decision Making/Progressions -Staying Healthy If it was only so easy. I actually think he's not bad in most of those. The thing that kills me is accuracy. He just came apart last year on this-- even really short accuracy was poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I believe that EJ Manuel is currently the third best QB on the Bills. Beware Tyrod Taylor. The article was good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 2, 2015 Author Share Posted April 2, 2015 I do not know what to expect but intrigued to see how he responds to higher level of competition in TC than he's had previously, new scheme, and new coaching staff. Particularly David Lee and Chris Palmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Never was sleeping on EJ... More like hibernating. I can understand how people can have doubt. What I cannot understand is how anyone can give up on a QB with less than a full season of playing time under his belt. I'm not the "I told you so," type, but when EJ wins the job and kicks ass this season, I might become one, temporarily.I sincerely hope you do. That crow would taste fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) What an article. Where Manuel Needs To Improve -Accuracy -Pocket Presence -Decision Making/Progressions -Staying Healthy If it was only so easy. Cue the "yeah but we knew he was going to be a project" posts. If you're a top 20 pick and after 2 years you're still a bottom tier player, what does that tell us? Edited April 2, 2015 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) Cue the "yeah but we knew he was going to be a project" posts. If you're a top 20 pick and after 2 years you're still a bottom tier player, what does that tell us? How about, "If you're a top 20 pick, and after two years, your stats are being held up next to second round rookies, what does that tell us?" I can't wait to compare Johnny Football's stats for the next year to Winston's, Mariota's and Bryce Petty's. Edited April 2, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 How great would it be to see Taylor win the competition and light it up this season? I love the overlooked, forgotten and the damned! Bills fan forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 How great would it be to see Taylor win the competition and light it up this season? I love the overlooked, forgotten and the damned! Bills fan forever! I'd be fine with it. I want the Bills to win. I don't give a crap who the QB is. I just think giving up on EJ is premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Cue the "yeah but we knew he was going to be a project" posts. If you're a top 20 pick and after 2 years you're still a bottom tier player, what does that tell us? Either your coaching, scheme/play calling and o line sucked or you aren't going to make it. That's what it tells us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Either your coaching, scheme/play calling and o line sucked or you aren't going to make it. That's what it tells us. Some of his flaws have nothing to do with the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I believe that EJ Manuel is currently the third best QB on the Bills. And what were the criteria that allowed you to arrive at that conclusion? Are they standardized? IF so, how? Are they objective? IF so, how? I'm sure we all could benefit from the work you've done to come up with objective standards for EJ that apply equally not only to the other QBs on the Bills, but other QBs in the NFL. I know I'd love to hear them, because I've been trying to figure this out for quite some time. <----Given what's written here, you can see that I've already identified a serious problem with the sample size available to us. How did you solve that problem? Or....do you simply lack obective standards? Or, do you have them, but give them a tweak for EJ, and only EJ? Or, is this a "gut" feeling...and if so, what's your gut's track record? I mean if your gut has a batting average, at least that would be something quantifiable. Or, is your entire conclusion merely anally extracted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloMatt Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 I'd be fine with it. I want the Bills to win. I don't give a crap who the QB is. I just think giving up on EJ is premature. Me too. just saying I would love to see a surprise player show p on the Bills roster. Tavaris Jackson made seven figure plus and never took a snap then winds up being the Seahawks #2. Hopefully this coaching staff can identify talent. Just looking for the king in peasant's clothes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 And what were the criteria that allowed you to arrive at that conclusion? Are they standardized? IF so, how? Are they objective? IF so, how? I'm sure we all could benefit from the work you've done to come up with objective standards for EJ that apply equally not only to the other QBs on the Bills, but other QBs in the NFL. I know I'd love to hear them, because I've been trying to figure this out for quite some time. <----Given what's written here, you can see that I've already identified a serious problem with the sample size available to us. How did you solve that problem? Or....do you simply lack obective standards? Or, do you have them, but give them a tweak for EJ, and only EJ? Or, is this a "gut" feeling...and if so, what's your gut's track record? I mean if your gut has a batting average, at least that would be something quantifiable. Or, is your entire conclusion merely anally extracted? Are you so insecure about EJ that nobody can have anything but a positive opinion of him? Goodness some of you are so sensitive over this kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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