bladiebla Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The point most people seem to be missing is that this whole HC takes clause and walks away thing points to one very clear thing; I think through all the smoke and mirrors we can safely assume that the front office is not planning on extending Dareus and Hughes nor are they planning to go out and buy a top tier veteran QB. It's the Bills of old in the front office. I'd walk too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The point most people seem to be missing is that this whole HC takes clause and walks away thing points to one very clear thing; I think through all the smoke and mirrors we can safely assume that the front office is not planning on extending Dareus and Hughes nor are they planning to go out and buy a top tier veteran QB. It's the Bills of old in the front office. I'd walk too. Oh my God, stop with the jumps to conclusion. What an illogical statement to make. Pegula knows there are plenty of other candidates out there for President and HC. Do you honestly think Maroon and Polian are the chosen ones?? Relax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Truth Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Idiot fans wanted Marrone gone. The man was a good coach. Can't stand stupid fans. Now he walks and half the league wants him. Complete and utter moron fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Idiot fans wanted Marrone gone. The man was a good coach. Can't stand stupid fans. Now he walks and half the league wants him. Complete and utter moron fans. He left on his own accord. Not ours. Now that he is gone, however, we are allowed to say F$&k You!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The point most people seem to be missing is that this whole HC takes clause and walks away thing points to one very clear thing; I think through all the smoke and mirrors we can safely assume that the front office is not planning on extending Dareus and Hughes nor are they planning to go out and buy a top tier veteran QB. It's the Bills of old in the front office. I'd walk too. Pretty big leap and not logical at all. Idiot fans wanted Marrone gone. The man was a good coach. Can't stand stupid fans. Now he walks and half the league wants him. Complete and utter moron fans. What do the fans have to do him leaving? Half the league? Include yourself in the stupid fans group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobshaw81 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 This a golden opportunity. A blessing in disguise.We have an owner who actually wants to spend money on the FO. The Bills have never had that luxury. This is what we all have been waiting for. Why the hell are people upset about losing Doug Moron? A .500 coach, bad game day decisions, coached not to lose, could't see that Hackett was a major problem, bad relationships with media, some players and other FO employees, acted very childish and whiny, made a mess of the O Line(move Pears, a tackle to guard failed. Played cyril richardson over Urbik when clearly Urbik was the better player). He was not/is not a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Oh my God, stop with the jumps to conclusion. What an illogical statement to make. Pegula knows there are plenty of other candidates out there for President and HC. Do you honestly think Maroon and Polian are the chosen ones?? Relax. It's the only logical conclusions that can be drawn based on the performance of the front office over the past 15 years. Your HC walking out on your team because he didnt like the media that is illogical. This a golden opportunity. A blessing in disguise.We have an owner who actually wants to spend money on the FO. The Bills have never had that luxury. This is what we all have been waiting for. Why the hell are people upset about losing Doug Moron? A .500 coach, bad game day decisions, coached not to lose, could't see that Hackett was a major problem, bad relationships with media, some players and other FO employees, acted very childish and whiny, made a mess of the O Line(move Pears, a tackle to guard failed. Played cyril richardson over Urbik when clearly Urbik was the better player). He was not/is not a good coach. Loosing continuitiy in a situation that was actually showing forward progress. A new HC means a new QB, which most likely will be a rookie, which in turn requires trading up and loosing more draft picks etc. Playing a rookie QB means not getting in the playoffs for sure (only one rookie QB made it to the playoffs ever and lost). QB aside a new coach also means a roster turn over of at least 33% since he wants his guys etc. It's the implections that you need to be worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 It's the only logical conclusions that can be drawn based on the performance of the front office over the past 15 years. Your HC walking out on your team because he didnt like the media that is illogical. So your answer to address the problem is to keep the FO in tact? Pegula is creating his own team...his own front office. It is his right. To say that he won't sign a QB or let Hughes and Dareus walk is craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Yes, they have a younger, richer owner now and they won nine games, but how do they escape from this coaching/FO nightmare? Worst bind ever? Can you say 'Kay Stephenson'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nah I vote for the one who wants to trade Sammy! It's only a few hours into the New Year, but this could be the dumbest post of all of 2015 when we look back a year from now! Well done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doro Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Empower DW and let him finish what he started. DM is an average coach with great agent. The Bills are better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 (edited) Idiot fans wanted Marrone gone. The man was a good coach. Can't stand stupid fans. Now he walks and half the league wants him. Complete and utter moron fans. Marrone was too loyal to his staff in spite of mediocrity. On that basis alone, he had to go. We'll see soon enough 'who wants him'. Edited January 1, 2015 by Ted William's frozen head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Nah I vote for the one who wants to trade Sammy! Good point. it's already an incredible year for stupidity. This could be an all time great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Marrone was too loyal to his staff in spite of mediocrity. On that basis alone, he had to go. We'll see soon enough 'who wants him'. No way Marrone opts out unless he's pretty damn sure he'll get a new gig, and for at least the same pay. One man's trash is another man's treasure (see: threads suggesting we hire Rex Ryan) Good point. it's already an incredible year for stupidity. This could be an all time great one. Because watching EJ miss Sammy by 5 yards will be so gratifying, knowing that Sammy is just one competent QB away from the HOF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Because watching EJ miss Sammy by 5 yards will be so gratifying, knowing that Sammy is just one competent QB away from the HOF! In the second game Sammy ever played, he caught 8 passes for 117 yards and a TD from EJ in a win against the Dolphins who had just embarrassed the Patriots. Thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 No that would be Lou Saban leaving and having Jim Ringo coach the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronin Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yes, they have a younger, richer owner now and they won nine games, but how do they escape from this coaching/FO nightmare? 1. QB quits and our first-rounder got little experience this year. 2. Coach quit, walking away with $4mil for doing nothing, an embarrassment to the club if not the entire city. (Late night comics saying: how do you fire someone in Buffalo, NY? Answer: Give him $4mil." 3. Polian turns down the job of King Bill. 4. Schwartz probably walks if he doesn;t get the HC job (and if he does, we get a guy who was a poor HC and lose a good DC) 5. Our GM is looking really bad and may not survive. He made a desperate a move at the draft and now has no first-round pick in '15. His HC has disrespected him in public during the entire 2014 season. He looks weak. 6. We have a rookie owner unfamiliar with NFL workings and football in general who has to dig his way out from under a giant pile of shale. On the good side, we got rid of Marrone, Orton and hopefully Hackett. Funny, the first batch of responses don't even address your well-stated post. They just whine because they don't like the factual content of it. I agree with you. What's more is that our QB situation is worse than it was prior to last season, easily. We have no one, and who we have haven't played this season. Brains Whaley as you say has hamstrung us in terms of ability to make top-level changes. Why he's still here is a mystery to me. Well, I think we know why. At the beginning of the season some dumb analyst on a major site said that our RBs were elite. Just goes to show how little these guys actually know about every team. That couldn't have been further from the truth. Jackson's finished, which should have been obvious, Spiller's an overpriced role-player that does something for you every 5th game, one thing, Dixon's a short-yardage specialist, and Brown's a poor-man's Spiller. \ This is quite possibly the worst offense that the franchise has ever seen and it's nowhere near improving significantly. The defense, for all the talk of Schwartz being a run-D DC, was average against the run but we didn't really face many top rushing teams or RBs and when we did they almost all averaged significantly better than their per-game averages. Over our last 10 games we averaged nearly 130 yards against us rushing, which would have been good for just a few spots off of last, and actually played worse than last season's rushing D over those last 10 games. So how good this D is has somewhat of a smokescreen element to it also. We lead the league in sacks but had fewer than last season. Presumably what happened is that opposing coaches just ran on us since our pass-D is the strength of our D, and it won them games. There's a lot more work to be done than most people think and this team is closer to 6-10 next year than it is on improving on our 2004-like 9-7 this year. Don't expect Pegula to figure that out though, he's too busy pretending not to understand this team well enough, as if that's possible for a true fan of this team. He hasn't fired any of the people that blatantly most need to go. I suspect that this team moves more in the direction of the perpetual laughing stock that it's become than in the positive direction, and it's ironic that the ones seemingly still going to be making key changes might be the ones that f'd it up the most over the year. Meanwhile Pegula, who claims not to know much about the team [but he knows about coaches elsewhere?] is trying to brush Cowher off after pulling him off the shelf for nearly a decade, hello Gailey, and probably overpay him to send this team into its next era where we can't get rid of an underachieving coach. Many of us thought that once we had a different owner that really sound decisions would begin to be made. Well, the veil's starting to come off of Pegula and the face under it isn't as pretty as we were sold. It should be very interesting to see how soon this honeymoon ends if he doesn't start making some top-notch great decisions here soon. It would be so typical Wilson to make the changes in February after the best candidates are gone and others no longer want to switch teams. We'll see what happens, but the early returns don't look promising. Because watching EJ miss Sammy by 5 yards will be so gratifying, knowing that Sammy is just one competent QB away from the HOF! LOL And you know this how? So are Beckum, Benjamin, Evans, Matthews and one or two others that have outperformed Watkins on a per-game basis also going to the HoF or or a competent QB away from doing so? It's the only logical conclusions that can be drawn based on the performance of the front office over the past 15 years. Your HC walking out on your team because he didnt like the media that is illogical. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 The model has to be the Arizona Cardinals. 2011-12: horrible offense (Kolb, Skelton, a little Ryan Lindley even), emerging defense (17th in scoring against both years) 2013: Carson Palmer in, offense moves up to 16th, defense in its prime (7th) 2014: it finally really starts humming. Defense 5th, offense slightly improved ... until Palmer tears up his knee. Is there a Carson Palmer out there? The closest thing available is Jay Cutler. Hmm ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 We lost a head coach that went 15-17, yet still have in staff the defense that was the most critical cog in putting together the first winning season in a decade, plus all of the players that makeup the roster. I'm missing the part that makes this is the worst bind that the team has ever been in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 A strong recommendation from TaskersGhost is hard to ignore when weighing candidates for dumbest post of the year. His opinion carries a lot of cache in that regard. If he throws his support towards the "Trade Sammy" thread, we have a quandary on our hands. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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