Global warming err Climate change HOAX

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Just a 'little' off.

 

(and no, that doesn't mean no one cares about plastic in the ocean)

 

We just want the truth.

 

 

 

[Doc]

On 7/31/2023 at 9:27 AM, Precision said:

Glad it has been a good vehicle for you!  

 

I did not realize that Tesla would cancel service requests they deemed frivolous.  I'm not sure how I feel about this, but it is certainly different from my experience in servicing my vehicles.  I think the issue in the linked article was that Tesla indicated to owners that they had performed "remote diagnostics" on the vehicle when they had not.  I could see why Tesla would consider this frivolous but as an owner I would be upset at being misled regarding the diagnostics not being performed.

 

I don't think you understood the point I was trying to make regarding range.  At hot and cold temperatures your car will have less range due to the reduced energy storage of the batteries.  This is regardless of how or if you use the HVAC/stereo/wipers/lights/etc.  This loss of range is not fed back to the driver until late in the process of driving, not until the battery hits 50% of its stored energy.  As an example, your car at an outside temperature of 32F will indicate 315 miles of range at startup even though it is impossible for it to exceed 250 miles.  

 

 

Referencing the graph, temperatures in the single digits can drop range by 50%.  This is certainly an issue for some drivers and is potentially a safety issue depending on your location/distance between charging stations. 

 

Adjusting the "potential range" (which as you indicated is likely even less) based on the energy stored in the batteries (which correlates with outside temperature) is the responsible path that Tesla should have taken rather than just indicating the possible range under ideal circumstances.  This large variance in range without informing the driver would certainly initiate a recall in an ICE vehicle. 

 

Do other EVs do something different?

 

On 7/31/2023 at 10:51 AM, Orlando Tim said:

I have a friend who rents a Tesla out on Turo and he has found the demand for one has dropped drastically over the past two years, and his other vehicles are renting better. He is not sure why but in 2021 it was his best profit maker vehicle, and now it is not even average- he has a total of 8 vehicles between him and his in-laws.

 

It's largely because Elon bought Twitter.  I was working with an eye surgeon who would ask me about my Tesla (I've had it since 2017) and how he was thinking of getting one.  Last time I worked with him he asked me about it and said "I'd like to get one but I hate Elon Musk."  I laughed. 

[Precision]

4 hours ago, Doc said:

 

Do other EVs do something different?

 

 

It's largely because Elon bought Twitter.  I was working with an eye surgeon who would ask me about my Tesla (I've had it since 2017) and how he was thinking of getting one.  Last time I worked with him he asked me about it and said "I'd like to get one but I hate Elon Musk."  I laughed. 

Since I drive an Audi, below is a link from 6/22 that applies to all of their EV/e-tron models.  I could dig through other manufacturers for similar information but don't have time.

 

An ideal basis for planning: Range display in Audi electric cars gives a reliable picture

Consumption history, outside temperature, and other parameters make for a realistic calculation.  

Predictive, reliable, and dynamic: Audi e-tron models give drivers the choice between two different options to calculate the range, one with and one without the route planner as part of the Audi Multi Media Interface (Audi MMI). Without the technical support of the satnav and the route planner, the calculation of the remaining range rests on recent consumption values. The system also reflects driver-specific properties, such as an especially sporty or economical driving style. Isolated special factors, such as energy-intensive passing maneuvers, are reliably averaged out, ensuring a realistic calculation.

In addition to consumption data from the drive and onboard power systems, the car’s distribution point and electrical nervous system, remaining range calculation also factors in thermal management data (heating or AC) or the use of additional comfort features such as seat or steering wheel heating. Also considered are the selected driving mode, individual car configuration, load, and climactic conditions. In this way, the range display represents the most recent consumption data and projects them into the future, without additional data from the route planer.

 

The above sounds complicated but it is not.  There is a circuit in the vehicle that senses the current draw from the battery.  Audi is taking the starting charge (which they calculate from prior usage, last charge and outside temperature) and then factor in the rate of miles traveled versus current used.  They update the projected range "real time" as even with numerous variables a weighted average calculation of current used per mile is simple.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Reward the 'narrative' , even if it's false.

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

No sh*t.

 

Scientist admits the ‘overwhelming consensus’ on the climate change crisis is ‘manufactured’

By John Stossel

 

https://nypost.com/2023/08/09/climate-scientist-admits-the-overwhelming-consensus-is-manufactured/

 

 

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[aristocrat]

https://x.com/ziaerica/status/1690724143434461184?s=46&t=WfwBbfFkRiZZWCMxTdpkOw

 

 

Edited August 13, 2023 by aristocrat

[B-Man]

 

 

 

[aristocrat]

https://x.com/dalestarka10/status/1693040554278629487?s=46&t=WfwBbfFkRiZZWCMxTdpkOw

[B-Man]

 

 

Green Policies and Government Incompetence Led to the Tragedy of the Maui Fire

by Clarice Feldman

 

As many as 1000 persons, many of them children, may have died as a result of the fire in Maui. The exact toll -- above the hundreds documented -- is difficult to assess right now as the bodies are charred beyond recognition and scientific equipment to test the remains are not readily available, but the tragedy -- naturally and without basis -- is being blamed on "climate change” in many of the media accounts. In fact, these people died as human sacrifices to green policies, legislative and corporate missteps, and administrative incompetence. The citizens of Hawaii, a solidly Democratic one-party state, are learning what those of similarly governed urban centers are learning: elect incompetents who forget their first duty is to protect their constituents and you will suffer.

 

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/08/green_policies_and_government_incompetence_led_to_the_tragedy_of_the_maui_fire.html

[Doc]

Water "equity" as well. DIE is an apt acronym...

[B-Man]

 

 

Hawaii's Democrat governor points a finger at climate change and nobody's having it

 

 

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/08/21/hawaii-governors-trying-to-blame-climate-change-and-nobodys-having-it-n2386455

 

 

 

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Edited August 21, 2023 by B-Man

[Joe Ferguson forever]

Hoax, nothing to see here.  Flooding coming to a desert near you

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/21/1195032403/hilary-california-flooding-storm-monday

 

Forty percent of the world's oceans are experiencing heat waves right now, according to federal researchers, in part due to a natural climate pattern called El Nino and human-caused climate change.

Part of the ocean that Hurricane Hilary formed over is around Baja California, Mexico, in the Pacific. Temperature anomalies there are part of what's been fueling this storm, says UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain.

"The ocean temperatures off the coast of Baja California are much warmer than usual right now," Swain says. "As much as 3 to 6 Fahrenheit — that's a pretty significant increment of additional hurricane fuel."

Edited August 21, 2023 by Joe Ferguson forever

[TSOL]

Y'know, I was watching a bunch of ants eat a potato chip that dropped on the ground at a picnic over the weekend and it occured to me. Mother earth really knows how to clean up a mess, she knows what she's doing 

 

Hoax that 

[TSOL]

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/lithium-mining-for-ev-batteries-unsustainable?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=Display-Discovery-ZLA+Common+Tread+Articles-FY23-FTP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVjUM6W6ROVv27LKOGJwYf01DqpnHK-9g1vJ0g6ZF2fxqrqjrd08jd0aAjoWEALw_wcB

 

 

Lithium mining for batteries sucks.

[John from Riverside]

21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Hoax, nothing to see here.  Flooding coming to a desert near you

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/21/1195032403/hilary-california-flooding-storm-monday

 

Forty percent of the world's oceans are experiencing heat waves right now, according to federal researchers, in part due to a natural climate pattern called El Nino and human-caused climate change.

Part of the ocean that Hurricane Hilary formed over is around Baja California, Mexico, in the Pacific. Temperature anomalies there are part of what's been fueling this storm, says UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain.

"The ocean temperatures off the coast of Baja California are much warmer than usual right now," Swain says. "As much as 3 to 6 Fahrenheit — that's a pretty significant increment of additional hurricane fuel."

It is interesting we have not had a category one hurricane come at us in my lifetime here in Riverside
 

Meanwhile, my daughter lives further upstate close to Oregon and they’re having a huge fire problem

[Tommy Callahan]

5 minutes ago, TSOL said:

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/lithium-mining-for-ev-batteries-unsustainable?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Display&utm_campaign=Display-Discovery-ZLA+Common+Tread+Articles-FY23-FTP&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuZGnBhD1ARIsACxbAVjUM6W6ROVv27LKOGJwYf01DqpnHK-9g1vJ0g6ZF2fxqrqjrd08jd0aAjoWEALw_wcB

 

 

Lithium mining for batteries sucks.

In that very region they are getting lithium from Hydro drilling in the Salton Sea area.  creating deserts and micro swarms.

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Hoax, nothing to see here.  Flooding coming to a desert near you

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/21/1195032403/hilary-california-flooding-storm-monday

 

Forty percent of the world's oceans are experiencing heat waves right now, according to federal researchers, in part due to a natural climate pattern called El Nino and human-caused climate change.

Part of the ocean that Hurricane Hilary formed over is around Baja California, Mexico, in the Pacific. Temperature anomalies there are part of what's been fueling this storm, says UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain.

"The ocean temperatures off the coast of Baja California are much warmer than usual right now," Swain says. "As much as 3 to 6 Fahrenheit — that's a pretty significant increment of additional hurricane fuel."

Now what? Is it unusual for a tropical storm to come up the west coastline? Yes it is…..but it isn’t the first time. The last one was eighty years ago….long before global warming was even being discussed. 

[John from Riverside]

21 hours ago, TSOL said:

Y'know, I was watching a bunch of ants eat a potato chip that dropped on the ground at a picnic over the weekend and it occured to me. Mother earth really knows how to clean up a mess, she knows what she's doing 

 

Hoax that 

She does until we start ***** with her, which we have been doing for centuries

[TSOL]

20 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

She does until we start ***** with her, which we have been doing for centuries

 

 

You miss my point but it's ok 

23 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

In that very region they are getting lithium from Hydro drilling in the Salton Sea area.  creating deserts and micro swarms.

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's just not sustainable on a mass scale

[Orlando Buffalo]

22 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Hoax, nothing to see here.  Flooding coming to a desert near you

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/08/21/1195032403/hilary-california-flooding-storm-monday

 

Forty percent of the world's oceans are experiencing heat waves right now, according to federal researchers, in part due to a natural climate pattern called El Nino and human-caused climate change.

Part of the ocean that Hurricane Hilary formed over is around Baja California, Mexico, in the Pacific. Temperature anomalies there are part of what's been fueling this storm, says UCLA climate scientist Daniel Swain.

"The ocean temperatures off the coast of Baja California are much warmer than usual right now," Swain says. "As much as 3 to 6 Fahrenheit — that's a pretty significant increment of additional hurricane fuel."

Do you believe that Hurricanes are caused by  climate change?