JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 They were going to move Kiko to the outside despite the monster year he had at MLB in 2013. Preston Brown has taken the spot Kiko would have had this season and is doing very well. Brad-ham, despite his penalties yesterday, has been very good this season and Brandon Spikes might just re-up for next year. So... Who sits? Kiko has to be on the field - that's a given. Preston has played 99% (if not 100%) of snaps this season. You put Kiko back in the middle and let Spikes walk? Put Brad-ham back on the bench? Go back to a 3-4? Talk to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 They were going to move Kiko to the outside despite the monster year he had at MLB in 2013. Preston Brown has taken the spot Kiko would have had this season and is doing very well. Brad-ham, despite his penalties yesterday, has been very good this season and Brandon Spikes might just re-up for next year. So... Who sits? Kiko has to be on the field - that's a given. Preston has played 99% (if not 100%) of snaps this season. You put Kiko back in the middle and let Spikes walk? Put Brad-ham back on the bench? Go back to a 3-4? Talk to me. Not sure who goes where but I would say it's a lock Spikes is not here next year (too one dimensional). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 My plan is to watch them and enjoy. As for the team, I think they put Brown in the middle, which I believe is where he is best suited, and say goodbye to Spikes. Bradham on one side, Kiko on the other. Bad things, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 When Kiko returns, we can trade them all. Their services will no longer be required. Kiko = Sam, Mike, Will, Alpha, and Omega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I really dont think it is a forgone conclusion that Spikes is gone next year..... - What are people afraid of......a ridiculous contract? Spikes might just like it here and take a good deal - Both Brown and Spikes optimal position is MLB....BUT....Brown is showing he can play MULTIPLE positions.........so you could play Spikes on running downs and Brown on passing downs...then you also have depth at the OLB position should something bad happen Why get rid of good players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 MLB = Brown/Spikes SLB = Bradham WLB = Kiko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 MLB = Brown/Spikes SLB = Bradham WLB = Kiko This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 DOMINATION Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 MLB = Brown/Spikes SLB = Bradham WLB = Kiko DOMINATION These Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) As our d-line has demonstrated, depth is not a bad thing. - Kiko makes his planned move to his natural position, WLB. - Bradham stays at SLB. - Brown slides to MLB, which is his natural position. - Spikes comes in for Brown on base 4-3 running downs, and comes in as the true MIC in goalline sets with 4-4 and 5-2 or 3 personel. By inserting Spikes into the lineup it allows you to spell any of the other three, by shuffeling them around, without a letdown in the quality of play. Now, will it happen? Who knows... There's always the question of how comfortable Spikes would be in that role. There's also a question of how well Kiko recovers, as well as the continued development of Randall Johnson and Ty Powell, as well as Kieth Rivers presence on the roster. I've gotta say though, it sure is a nice problem to have. Edited October 27, 2014 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 MLB = Spikes/Brown/Kiko SLB = Bradham/Brown WLB = Kiko/Brown There's versatility with our group, you rotate through who is playing best, who matches up well, what personnel is on the field, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Just don't let Schwartz leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 actually I think Bradham took Kiko's spot on the weak side with Rivers who was replaced by Brown on the strong side I would still like to see them resign Spikes leaving him in the middle with Brown and Kiko on the Outside and Bradham as backup but could see Brown in Middle next year with Bradham and Kiko on the outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 We will have a very amazing defense with Kiko back. We will be right there with Carolina in the Thomas Davis/Luke Kuechly duo. We will be able to line up at 3-4 in many formations, most favorably. .We have depth at many positions and flexibility amongst many players who have contributed in many schemes and fronts (34, 43). The way I see it the following could be used as such DE: Hughes, MWilliams, KWilliams, Charles, Wynn, Dareus DT: Bryant, Dareus, Charles OLB: Lawson, MWilliams, Hughes, Brown, Powell, Rivers, Alonso, Bradham ILB: Brown, Spikes, Bradham, Alonso, Powell A few fun 3-4 lineups: KWilliams / Bryant / Dareus MWilliams / Spikes / Bradham / Alonso You are not going to run very far on this front. Mario Williams is a wall against the run. MWilliams / Dareus / Hughes Lawson / Spikes / Bradham / Alonso Very flexible to cover the pass with Alonso and Lawson on the outside and Hughes and Williams pressuring outside. MWilliams / Bryant/ Dareus Bradham / Spikes / Alonso / Hughes Hughes now up in a 34WLB can rush the passer from the outside while Alonso covers from the Jack position and Bradham is strongside agains the run and Bryant and Spikes hold the middle. Overall, I expect the 43 to remain the base D. Bradham - Brown - Alonso as the base D If, and hopefully, Spikes returns then I see him used on running downs. With our run D the best its been in forever I think we need to focus on keeping Spikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 actually I think Bradham took Kiko's spot on the weak side with Rivers who was replaced by Brown on the strong side I would still like to see them resign Spikes leaving him in the middle with Brown and Kiko on the Outside and Bradham as backup but could see Brown in Middle next year with Bradham and Kiko on the outside That was the original plan, but a few weeks ago they moved Bradham to the strong side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 We will have a very amazing defense with Kiko back. We will be right there with Carolina in the Thomas Davis/Luke Kuechly duo. We will be able to line up at 3-4 in many formations, most favorably. .We have depth at many positions and flexibility amongst many players who have contributed in many schemes and fronts (34, 43). The way I see it the following could be used as such DE: Hughes, MWilliams, KWilliams, Charles, Wynn, Dareus DT: Bryant, Dareus, Charles OLB: Lawson, MWilliams, Hughes, Brown, Powell, Rivers, Alonso, Bradham ILB: Brown, Spikes, Bradham, Alonso, Powell A few fun 3-4 lineups: KWilliams / Bryant / Dareus MWilliams / Spikes / Bradham / Alonso You are not going to run very far on this front. Mario Williams is a wall against the run. MWilliams / Dareus / Hughes Lawson / Spikes / Bradham / Alonso Very flexible to cover the pass with Alonso and Lawson on the outside and Hughes and Williams pressuring outside. MWilliams / Bryant/ Dareus Bradham / Spikes / Alonso / Hughes Hughes now up in a 34WLB can rush the passer from the outside while Alonso covers from the Jack position and Bradham is strongside agains the run and Bryant and Spikes hold the middle. Overall, I expect the 43 to remain the base D. Bradham - Brown - Alonso as the base D If, and hopefully, Spikes returns then I see him used on running downs. With our run D the best its been in forever I think we need to focus on keeping Spikes. You left out the best posible combination: Mario / Kyle / Dareus Bradham / Brown / Alonso / Hughes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 You left out the best posible combination: Mario / Kyle / Dareus Bradham / Brown / Alonso / Hughes Also left out a few more like Charles / KWilliams / Dareus MWilliams / Spikes / Alonso / Hughes That's a lot of pass rush. KWilliams / Dareus / Charles MWilliams / Bradham / Spikes / Alonso Is that a 4-3 or a 3-4? The QB will have to figure it out. Surprise, here comes CB blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 When are they expecting Kiko to be ready to rumble? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I really dont think it is a forgone conclusion that Spikes is gone next year..... - What are people afraid of......a ridiculous contract? Spikes might just like it here and take a good deal - Both Brown and Spikes optimal position is MLB....BUT....Brown is showing he can play MULTIPLE positions.........so you could play Spikes on running downs and Brown on passing downs...then you also have depth at the OLB position should something bad happen Why get rid of good players? It's a two-way street. Spikes may not want to stick around if he's not getting the playing time he wants. He probably believes he's a full-time, three-down starter, and wants to get paid as such. If the market agrees, I'm sure he'd want to be elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Another nice problem to have -- none of those guys are really getting old. Mario Williams and Spikes have been in the league a few years but have lots of mileage left. Kyle Williams is not slowing down at all and probably has three or four good years left. The rest are young guys with many years of dominance in their future. We should face facts that we won't be able to keep all these guys. We have at least 7 starter-quality D linemen. If Brown and Bradham develop as expected, and Kiko returns, and Spikes comes back, I pity the opposition. But from our perspective we have too much talent to keep everyone, other teams will raid the Bills and overpay. There will be some tough decisions ahead about which ones to keep and which ones to let walk. The cold hard calculation is to let the older guys go (KWill and MWill) but KWill provides such leadership, we need him around particularly if Fred Jackson doesn't come back at full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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