Max997 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Anyone thinking Marrone benches EJ is kidding themselves, he didn't even want Orton signed so what would make anyone think he would start him? In saying that EJ is clearly not an NFL QB Edited September 28, 2014 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Underdog Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 My vote is for Orton and it's not even close right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Marrone doesn't have the guts to put Orton but that gives this team the best chance to win right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I am a convert now. I was one who was willing to trust the decision makers and give this kid a chance. At the game last week, which I was at, it was becoming apparent this guy is not a good enough thrower of the football to get the job done. This week has clinched it for me and I suspect many others as well. Marrone's vote is always plus one though...so it won't happen. Too bad because with even competent QB play this team would be tough too beat. Start Orton now and see if the season can be salvaged. The other guy has not shown enough. It is not fair to the players or fans to continue this. And, the coaching staff will be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Continue to develop EJ??? He's reached his ceiling. He's not getting any better. He's had 14 starts. Almost a full season. Zero improvement. Zero. Looks worse than he did before he got hurt last year. New owner is here October 8th. Look at the schedule. 2-2 now. December looks like 1-3. Lose the next two, which is quite possible and the best they could do is 9-7 and there are no guaranteed wins in any of the other games. Question they have to ask themselves is what is more important? Winning games and making the playoffs (ha) which would mean going with Orton or trying to fool everyone by saying the QB and WR's are young and inexperienced and need more time to develop? Which Marone actually said today. That goes against everything they have said- win now- make the playoffs this year. Either way, this coaching staff, GM and most likely EJ are all finished here unless things turn around very quickly (which will be nothing short of a miracle). That sets the team back a couple more years. They gambled big time on EJ and it looks like they lost big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 There is no way in hell EJ should start another game for us. Go with the vet and try for a QB in the 2nd round next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Continue to develop EJ??? He's reached his ceiling. He's not getting any better. He's had 14 starts. Almost a full season. Zero improvement. Zero. Looks worse than he did before he got hurt last year. New owner is here October 8th. Look at the schedule. 2-2 now. December looks like 1-3. Lose the next two, which is quite possible and the best they could do is 9-7 and there are no guaranteed wins in any of the other games. Question they have to ask themselves is what is more important? Winning games and making the playoffs (ha) which would mean going with Orton or trying to fool everyone by saying the QB and WR's are young and inexperienced and need more time to develop? Which Marone actually said today. That goes against everything they have said- win now- make the playoffs this year. Either way, this coaching staff, GM and most likely EJ are all finished here unless things turn around very quickly (which will be nothing short of a miracle). That sets the team back a couple more years. They gambled big time on EJ and it looks like they lost big time. We might have to hit rock bottom to get to the top again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superb Owl Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Need to be good at the most importont position in sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 You will likely win more games with Orton but if you still have any hope that EJ will develop into anything other than the mediocre player he is now, you have to stick with EJ. That being said, it really doesn't matter which one you go with as our QB of the future is not yet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 I still think if Jeff Tuel got as many chances as EJ has the Bills would be better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 If our overall goal is to make the playoffs, orton should be the QB. If our overall goal is to see if Ej is the future of the franchise, Ej should start. I'm sick of watching these poor passes every series. Doesn't resemble an nfl starting QB right now. IMO, start orton. Try and make the playoffs. Have downing and hostler work with Ej and let him watch a QB with nfl experience. Look at adding competition at QB in the offseason. His free ride stops now. Earn the starting position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felonious Monk Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) I'm torn...As a FSU Grad and the fact he's still essentially a rookie...I was holding out hope for EJ...but...He's not getting it done....Receivers are wide open and he can't get them the ball. There is too much talent here and we deserve to see what Orton can do. Until EJ fires it in there instead of aiming it...See what Orton an do. This. I've been rooting for E.J. since his FSU days. I was pumped when we drafted him. I bought the injury argument last year. This year's preseason games? Oh, they were just preseason! But today I saw enough. We have a ton of talent on this team and I don't think a playoff push is out of the question. It wouldn't hurt to see what Orton can do. Could E.J. be a starting QB in this league? Today, he can't. Maybe sitting behind a vet like Orton for a year or two is what he needs. Edited September 29, 2014 by Felonious Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 EJ Manuel should be forced to play every down of every game until the Bills management realize they have made a terrible mistake. EJ is not the QB of the present or future. Frankly, EJ is a coach killer. Any coach who thinks they can teach EJ the instincts and intangibles to be a top QB will surely sink with the EJ Titanic. How many failures must the Bills endure before they get it right? I hope Terry Pegula searches high and low for top quality management who will hire top quality coaches and staff to replace this amateur operation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 As I've said elsewhere... Ideally I'd like to stick to developing EJ, since I don't know if Orton is any good. BUT, we also have too much talent on this team to waste... so I'm wondering if we should give Orton a couple weeks to see if we are any more successful in moving the ball. If not, then let EJ start and continue to work on improving through experience. My answer is very unstable at the moment, though. Not really sure what to think. Not on the OL, TE's, and LB's. But that is only 25% of the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Orton will make more throws. Period. Every time ej drops back, it is an awkward disaster waiting to happen. I have not seen a worse starting qb this year. True, I have yet to see a jets game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 i REJECT the notion that EJ will be "ruined" if he misses a few games. he missed 6 games last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Plug in Orton now. This is not your old AFC East. I really think the wheels are falling off NE. The Jets and dolphins are trash. This is a golden opportunity to win the division. Don't throw it away with this nurse maiding EJ garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Orton will do no better than Ej. Ej's our guy til they draft and develop someone better. And how do you know this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 It is amazing to me anyone still wants to watch that terrible play of EJ. I was hoping he would get better. I was willing to be Attention with a game manager and eventually he improves, but it is not moving in this direction. The only passes he can possibly make are check down screen passes. Well, as soon as a defense reads it, they start pressing waiting for the screen. The receivers looked pissed off after some of the obvious misses yesterday. How many times do we have to watch Williams, Watkins, and Wood look like the Barnum and bailey circus trying to make acrobatic catches. For the posts about how much everyone love EJ two weeks ago, I don't remember those comments. I remember several people wanting to give him a chance to develop after two wins. Well, he looks absolutely terrible, and I'm so sick of watching my team suck, when we have talented people on this team. Orton was a good game manager in the past. If he could play even close to as effective as Alex Smith, we'll win a bunch of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Flutie Band Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Of course it should be Orton. One thing any long time Bills should should have an eye for is hopeless QB prospects. If you can't watch Manuel play and see the writing on the wall, you have your blinders on. The fans always said to keep giving Losman another chance. Trent another chance. EJ another chance. Talk about character, though! Wow! Losman was always heavily involved in the community. Trent had Bill Walsh himself vouching for him as a stand up leader. We all see EJ saying the right things to the camera and trying to play the role. Here's what every crappy Buffalo QB does: 200 yds/game career passing 1:1 TD:INT career ratio 60% career completion percentage 75.0 career QB rating Losman, Edwards, Fitzpatrick, Manuel. Go check their career stats and compare. Manuel is cut from the exact same cloth as his predecessors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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