My preview of the Dolphins game

[Hapless Bills Fan]

Now this right here is what I'm talking about. Good insight, I learned a couple things from this post!

 

I will definitely admit you guys have the upper hand off the bat from the two wins last year, and the major HF advantage.

 

And I hear you in regards to simply stating who is better than whom. I'll work on add a little more substance to my posts!

 

I, too am expecting a great game!

 

Sounds like a plan, I'll drink to that

 

I wish the Dolphins the best, especially when they're playing the Pats or the Jets, just not when they're playing the Bills! GO BILLS!

[finfanfromrochester]

Thanks for sparking a good discussion. You're welcome here any time.

 

'Preciate it. This is a great forum, btw. Reminds me a lot of my personal go to Dolphins site, finheaven, in terms of the amount of solid contributions and content.

 

Sounds like a plan, I'll drink to that

 

I wish the Dolphins the best, especially when they're playing the Pats or the Jets, just not when they're playing the Bills! GO BILLS!

 

Haha I hear you. I always support the Bills too. It doesn't hurt that all my friends are fans and I'm watching them every year at St John Fisher. They are no doubt on the upswing.

[Captain Hindsight]

'Preciate it. This is a great forum, btw. Reminds me a lot of my personal go to Dolphins site, finheaven, in terms of the amount of solid contributions and content.

 

 

 

Haha I hear you. I always support the Bills too. It doesn't hurt that all my friends are fans and I'm watching them every year at St John Fisher. They are no doubt on the upswing.

I always appreciate having other fans perspectives here.

 

Maybe this was covered thus far but I'm curious your opinion on Tannehill. He always baffles me. Some days I think he's good enough to win a few playoff games and others I'm wondering how he was a first round pick. Do Dolphins fans feel the same or have I just not watched him enough?

[34-78-83]

Phinfan, no issues with your posts here overall in general. It'll be an interesting matchup.

You sound like someone I know...

However, that Phin fan I know here in Roch would never be silly enough to type Wake>Mario.

That's beyond stupid.

Mario is a complete ,every down, run stopper and pass rusher who can do it with both power and speed and physically out-classes any lineman in the league.

Wake is a fantastic speed rusher (and boy he really is), but that's where it ends. He's not a run stopper and can't bull rush too many guys.

Not even on the same measuring stick.

[YoloinOhio]

Time to re-watch this gem:

http://www.buffalobi...e3-cb39a21c7cf2

 

Y'all tryin to cheat! Can't trust a dam Mammal. All mammals cheat!

Edited September 10, 2014 by YoloinOhio

[finfanfromrochester]

I always appreciate having other fans perspectives here.

 

Maybe this was covered thus far but I'm curious your opinion on Tannehill. He always baffles me. Some days I think he's good enough to win a few playoff games and others I'm wondering how he was a first round pick. Do Dolphins fans feel the same or have I just not watched him enough?

 

He's definitely on the hot seat this year. He and Philbin are pretty much linked at the hip as far as this season goes.

 

And I'm with you to a degree. He's too inconsistent.

 

Thing is, it's really hard for me to judge his performance last year with that oline. I mean, statistically he improved a lot from 2012, and with absolutely no protection I'd say he didn't do half bad. And you can see with even a player like Tom Brady, who had statistically his worst performance ever last week, actually one of the worst performances by any quarterback in a long time, that a bad oline can make or break a QB.

 

Tanne only got sacked once last week, and while he shined in the second half, the first half he was struggling a bit. Sometimes he just makes some throws that you have to scratch your head at....like the pick last week....it was just atrocious.

 

But he's a warrior. He has some great intangibles. A short memory, and nothing ever seems to rattle him. After last season he could've simply given up, and I guess you can argue he did by week 15 against you guys haha, but honestly I'm amazed he made it through the full season without a wheelchair last year.

 

So this year is really the tell-tale season for him. If our oline looks as good as it did last week for the whole season and he still struggles, well then we move on. If we make the playoffs, he stays...along with Joe.

 

But yeah, he's a tricky player to evaluate. But there's no doubt he's got the tools, and if he improves at the same rate as 2012-2013 then he should throw about 40 tds this year....but that seems a bit far fetched. I'm more worried about decreasing the INTs. The tds will come with this new offensive system by Bill Lazor.

[thebandit27]

Chris Trapasso ‏@ChrisTrapasso 30s

Misi not surprising. Starks = news. RT @ArmandoSalguero: Randy Starks & Koa Misi in walking boots. Not practicing today. More details coming

[Rocky Landing]

One of the best threads in recent memory. Thanks to the fish fans for participating.

[YoloinOhio]

BC in Pegulaville ‏@Bills_Chick 2h

Manuel is quite good playing at home (3-1 record, 93.2 QB rating), and Tannehill is horrendous at the Ralph (0-2 record, 45 QB rating).

[finfanfromrochester]

Phinfan, no issues with your posts here overall in general. It'll be an interesting matchup.

You sound like someone I know...

However, that Phin fan I know here in Roch would never be silly enough to type Wake>Mario.

That's beyond stupid.

Mario is a complete ,every down, run stopper and pass rusher who can do it with both power and speed and physically out-classes any lineman in the league.

Wake is a fantastic speed rusher (and boy he really is), but that's where it ends. He's not a run stopper and can't bull rush too many guys.

Not even on the same measuring stick.

 

I'll give you that he's clearly more of the full package than wake. But I guess my counter point would be in this day-in-age, a pass rusher as good as Cam Wake is so hard to come by. And I don't want to discount his run blocking skills either, because while they aren't Williams-esqe, they are still above average.

 

I look back to the Cincinatti game from last year as an example of his complete game changing abilities. OT with Dalton backed up in his endzone, Wake sacks him for a safety, game over.

 

Of course Williams is capable of doing the same, and maybe it's just because I don't follow the Bills enough, but I just don't seem to hear about those game changing plays from Williams as much as Wake. I acknowledge the clear bias of that last sentence in regards to seeing Wake play every week and not Mario.

[34-78-83]

I'll give you that he's clearly more of the full package than wake. But I guess my counter point would be in this day-in-age, a pass rusher as good as Cam Wake is so hard to come by. And I don't want to discount his run blocking skills either, because while they aren't Williams-esqe, they are still above average.

 

I look back to the Cincinatti game from last year as an example of his complete game changing abilities. OT with Dalton backed up in his endzone, Wake sacks him for a safety, game over.

 

Of course Williams is capable of doing the same, and maybe it's just because I don't follow the Bills enough, but I just don't seem to hear about those game changing plays from Williams as much as Wake. I acknowledge the clear bias of that last sentence in regards to seeing Wake play every week and not Mario.

 

Cool

 

Mario gets as many double teams as JJ watt. That's why you don't always see him flash.

 

Wake is a phenom pass rusher... Our Jerry Hughes is like a poor man's Wake

[finfanfromrochester]

Chris Trapasso ‏@ChrisTrapasso 30s

Misi not surprising. Starks = news. RT @ArmandoSalguero: Randy Starks & Koa Misi in walking boots. Not practicing today. More details coming

 

Oh, snap. This is news to me about Starks. Fortunately Jared Odrick and Earl Mitchell can hold down the D Line pretty well, but in terms of their backups it gets iffy.

 

Anthony Johnson is a great UDFA that ended up making the roster. Bruce Gaston I can't vouch for.

Edited September 10, 2014 by finfanfromrochester

[FLFan]

I'll give you that he's clearly more of the full package than wake. But I guess my counter point would be in this day-in-age, a pass rusher as good as Cam Wake is so hard to come by. And I don't want to discount his run blocking skills either, because while they aren't Williams-esqe, they are still above average.

 

I look back to the Cincinatti game from last year as an example of his complete game changing abilities. OT with Dalton backed up in his endzone, Wake sacks him for a safety, game over.

 

Of course Williams is capable of doing the same, and maybe it's just because I don't follow the Bills enough, but I just don't seem to hear about those game changing plays from Williams as much as Wake. I acknowledge the clear bias of that last sentence in regards to seeing Wake play every week and not Mario.

You should have seen Mario's sack of Cutler last week. Threw the OL out of the way and crushed Cutler. I am not sure he was the same after that. Check it out here:

 

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Five-must-see-plays-from-the-Week-1-win/24d6b56b-085e-43bb-ae11-d4ccec247aeb

[Dorkington]

Basically how I feel but with a Dolphins win

 

It's good to be playing against the Dolphins for first place in the AFCE again.

[thebandit27]

I'll give you that he's clearly more of the full package than wake. But I guess my counter point would be in this day-in-age, a pass rusher as good as Cam Wake is so hard to come by. And I don't want to discount his run blocking skills either, because while they aren't Williams-esqe, they are still above average.

 

I look back to the Cincinatti game from last year as an example of his complete game changing abilities. OT with Dalton backed up in his endzone, Wake sacks him for a safety, game over.

 

Of course Williams is capable of doing the same, and maybe it's just because I don't follow the Bills enough, but I just don't seem to hear about those game changing plays from Williams as much as Wake. I acknowledge the clear bias of that last sentence in regards to seeing Wake play every week and not Mario.

 

I think I can comment since I watch every game each week.

 

Wake has more "flash" because he's widely considered a pure speed rusher, and a very solid one; what makes Mario so stinking dangerous is that he can get to the backfield with speed or power. He'll generate 1 or 2 pressures/game simply by tossing an OT aside with one arm (and that's not an exaggeration--as you've likely seen before).

 

Teams absolutely have to double (or at least chip) Mario, or else they're in trouble. This is why guys like Hughes/Kyle/Dareus put up bunches of sacks, as there are only so many doubles to go around. With Wake, if you can chip him on about half the plays, and play 1-on-1 on Vernon (which I anticipate Buffalo has no problem doing with Glenn), there really isn't a Dareus/Kyle-type interior presence to push the pocket consistently--at least not that I've seen. Odrick can make plays from time to time, but I don't feel comfortable relying on my interior DL to pressure the QB all game long if I'm Miami. If I'm Buffalo, I almost want it that way, as there are very few interior OLs in football that can match up.

 

What's going to be more interesting to me--as I said a few pages ago, but I'm sure it was lost in the shuffle--is how Miami's front 7 challenges the size Buffalo has up front. The glaring difference in last week's game when Buffalo had the ball was the physical pounding that the Bears' D sustained by the 4th quarter...they were just spent. Miami, as a whole, has a smallish front 7 as well (not that that's always a bad thing), so I struggle to see how they combat the approach.

[finfanfromrochester]

You should have seen Mario's sack of Cutler last week. Threw the OL out of the way and crushed Cutler. I am not sure he was the same after that. Check it out here:

 

http://www.buffalobi...11-d4ccec247aeb

 

Those are five hella impressive plays right there. Williams did that essentially one handed. And yeah, he killed Cutler. That's a game changing hit indeed.

 

Perhaps more impressive is that catch by Woods. Goodness.

[thebandit27]

Oh, snap. This is news to me about Starks. Fortunately Jared Odrick and Earl Mitchell can hold down the D Line pretty well, but in terms of their backups it gets iffy.

 

Anthony Johnson is a great UDFA that ended up making the roster. Bruce Gaston I can't vouch for.

 

I didn't know that either...Odrick I commented on above; Mitchell I've always found to be rather middling, although he looked good last week. Part of me thinks that may be due to the deficiency NE has on their interior (generally weak, but they also lost OL Coach Donte Scarnecchia--one of the best in the business--in the off-season), but it'll be hard to say for sure based off of one game.

[finfanfromrochester]

What's going to be more interesting to me--as I said a few pages ago, but I'm sure it was lost in the shuffle--is how Miami's front 7 challenges the size Buffalo has up front. The glaring difference in last week's game when Buffalo had the ball was the physical pounding that the Bears' D sustained by the 4th quarter...they were just spent. Miami, as a whole, has a smallish front 7 as well (not that that's always a bad thing), so I struggle to see how they combat the approach.

 

It's true. With the loss of Soliai, we have gotten smaller, but more athletic on the line. Earl Mitchell is a great player, but isn't a true nose tackle like Soliai.

 

Hopefully our D coordinator Coyle has something up his sleeve.

 

Probably the thing I was most impressed with last week was the D's halftime adjustments. The O had it going from the start, we just had two fumbles and pick three series in a row that stalled us, but the D was getting thrown on in the first half.

 

The second half adjustment to the 5-2 was crucial, and changed the dynamic of the game. We will see if Coyle will be able to make adjustments on the fly like last week.

 

Good insight in regards to Williams, though. he's definitely as much if not more of an overall impact player as my man Wake.

[thebandit27]

Huh...I didn't realize this:

 

http://www.nfl.com/fantasyfootball/story/0ap3000000392418/article/start-em-sit-em-wide-receivers-for-week-2

 

"in his last eight road games, Wallace has recorded fewer than 50 yards six times. He's also scored twice in his last 11 games away from his home turf."

[Kelly the Dog]

 

Perhaps more impressive is that catch by Woods. Goodness.

He's no Brandon Gibson.