Kelly the Dog Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 After tonight's game, where Kellen Moore carved up up our defense, I almost feel sorry for anyone who thinks Kellen Moore can be an NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Poor Poor EJ can't have competition for his job…. when the fuk did this stop being the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) No, and for the second year in a row, the front office apparently could not care less about the position. Oh, wait, they thought Thad Lewis was good. What a surprise. Thaddeus was good. What happened to him if anything (keep in mind who is saying he got worse)? Why did he get worse? Why hasn't Tuel Time progressed? Smells like bad coaching. Why don't we have someone better than Tuel Time and Palmer? Poor talent evaluation peraps? I look at the QBs that other teams traded for or signed in the off season and they're all better. ie. McCown, Pryor, Grossman, Kellen Clements, Shaun Hill, Joe Webb, Colt McCoy. Some sharp decision makes at OBD figured that Thaddeus and Dixon and Tuel Time were all better. This smells like incompetence. Edited August 29, 2014 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thaddeus was good. What happened to him if anything (keep in mind who is saying he got worse)? Why did he get worse? Why hasn't Tuel Time progressed? Smells like bad coaching. Why don't we have someone better than Tuel Time and Palmer? Poor talent evaluation peraps? I look at the QBs that other teams traded for or signed in the off season and they're all better. ie. McCown, Pryor, Grossman, Kellen Clements, Shaun Hill, Joe Webb, Colt McCoy. Some sharp decision makes at OBD figured that Thaddeus and Dixon and Tuel Time were all better. This smells like incompetence. They are paid to make these decisions and they have failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thaddeus was good. What happened to him if anything (keep in mind who is saying he got worse)? Why did he get worse? Here is my take on Thad for right or wrong. I think he was a gamer. The guy's best skill was improvisation. He did that a lot when he played last year because he hadn't been here long enough to really know the playbook and to get coached. So he relied on his natural football instincts and natural athletic instincts which were good enough for him to pull out a couple wins. But this year in camp, he had time to absorb the playbook and had time for the coaches to assess his ability to learn and implement their system. Obviously he couldn't do that. So he was rightfully cut. That is what I think happened. I don't think that was incompetence. They should have cut him. I liked Thad, but he is not a good quarterback. In my opinion of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Be on the lookout tomorrow because I'm sure Marrone will be dumpster diving to sign a few guys before the roster gets cut to 53. Not sure why this team waits until the very last minute to try and fill holes that the fans have complained about for months but whatever. Fans don't coach in the NFL for a living but could see some of these issues coming months ago and yet the guys that eat, sleep and breathe NFL football couldn't try and solve these problems sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thaddeus was good. What happened to him if anything (keep in mind who is saying he got worse)? Why did he get worse? Why hasn't Tuel Time progressed? Smells like bad coaching. Why don't we have someone better than Tuel Time and Palmer? Poor talent evaluation peraps? I look at the QBs that other teams traded for or signed in the off season and they're all better. ie. McCown, Pryor, Grossman, Kellen Clements, Shaun Hill, Joe Webb, Colt McCoy. Some sharp decision makes at OBD figured that Thaddeus and Dixon and Tuel Time were all better. This smells like incompetence. if you say Thaddeus was good it can only be by how you saw him play in the games. He was going to be cut by the Lions. He wasn't highly regarded. He hadnt played all that well, outside of a late season game for the Browns. Myself, I thought he played last season way better than I expected. The Bills coaches, front office, and a good number of fans thought he may indeed be a decent backup. Some didn't. The Bills, on purpose, didnt pursue a vet QB in the off season as a threat to be starter, or even as a threat to Thad. There were not a lot of great options but some. But... In OTAs, in training camp, and in preseason games, Thad sucked. Woefully bad. There were no good reports from anyone at any time. I held out hope that he was a "gamer" but he looked terrible in games, too. It's very hard to convince yourself that a guy who has played terribly in OTAs, camp, and games will suddenly be good. So I understand it. But Tuel hant been much better, and hasnt shown that he can be good in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proteus Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Call me crazy but something tells me Chase Daniel is going to make an impact in this league at some point. Also he would easily be the number 1 on the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superb Owl Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) Here is my take on Thad for right or wrong. I think he was a gamer. The guy's best skill was improvisation. He did that a lot when he played last year because he hadn't been here long enough to really know the playbook and to get coached. So he relied on his natural football instincts and natural athletic instincts which were good enough for him to pull out a couple wins. But this year in camp, he had time to absorb the playbook and had time for the coaches to assess his ability to learn and implement their system. Obviously he couldn't do that. So he was rightfully cut. That is what I think happened. I don't think that was incompetence. They should have cut him. I liked Thad, but he is not a good quarterback. In my opinion of course. I think the gamer theory went out the window with the bad PS game performances (which mirrored practice). Now I suspect coaching and/or bad 2nd team offensive talent, for example - hate to say it - Kouandjio Edit, sorry I didn't totally read your post, looks like you are suspecting coaching too, only from the players ability to handle it side. That could be, but Im still wondering about the coaching itself Edited August 29, 2014 by Just Nguyen Baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Call me crazy but something tells me Chase Daniel is going to make an impact in this league at some point. Also he would easily be the number 1 on the Bills. He doesnt have the size or arm. Guys like him never make it. If you don't have the size you better have a cannon, like Brees and Wilson. He's not a great scrambler either. I cant think of one player who ever really made it in the NFL like Chase Daniel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I thought the Bears' rookie QB David Fales looked pretty good against the Browns. Announcers said Bears might try to sneak him through waivers to the PS. If they did that, I would consider grabbing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 The Seahawks 4th string QB BJ Daniels looked good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 While hating the fact that we may have to roam through other peoples garbage to "upgrade" our QB backup position, I was just looking at teams that have Depth at the QB position that would be a possible scrap heap for the Bills if Palmer looks like dookie tonight. Since It's only preseason this may be a good reason to watch teams other than the Bills for these "on the bubble" Players: Baltimore: Keith Wenning 3rd stringer - Bad show so far but former 10000 yard college career at Ball state. Won against Miami threw 6 tds in the game. Washington: Colt McCoy - former starter for the brownies we all know the story here, undersized but big heart. Cincy: AJ MCCarron or Matt Scott - the Bungles have 4 QB's right now so there will be opportunity here to watch how they play in their last chance. Pitt: Landry Jones will probably end up being a PS guy and he looked horrible in their last outing. Colts: Chandler Harnish - They've been reserving this guy , no nfl game exp to speak of but threw a td and 180 yds in this years preseason games so far. Titans: Zack Mettenberger - Developmental guy 3rd string no exp. Broncos: Zac Dysert - if they only keep 2 QB's.. which they may want 3 since Manning is up there in age. Cheifs - They have 4 QB's and Chase Daniel is their back up which could change. Tyler Bray & Aaron Murray are the options behind Daniel. Raiders - Trent Edwards... Just checking to see if you were still reading. No thanks, Capt checkdown can get cut and play arena football. He's 4th on their depth chart. Giants - Curtis Painter - Some real game exp - 8 games started for Indy 1500 yds 6tds 9ints ... Eagles - Matt Barkley (listed as 3rd str) starting their 4th preseason game Lions - We'll get a look at their 3rd stringer Kellen Moore tonight, but so far this preseason he's at a 115 passer rating not too shabby. Vikings- Ponder - NFL experience , may end up chopped if they don't trade him. Pats - Mallet - Pats evidently have been looking to get something for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Basically, when i look at the stats of every backup QB in preseason i feel they all show great stats, except for Buffalo. I know that's not really true but it sure seems that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Joe Webb tanked any chance the Vikes had in that playoff game. He had them pining for Ponder. I put him almost in the Brad Smith category. He's got talent, but he's not an NFL QB. Learning experiences and I wouldn't really mind our back up having play off experiences. He does well with a decent amount of time and can seemingly make all the throws. But I liked him in Minni too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Good work, OP. Thanks! It should come as no surprise that I'm hoping to see Manuel on the list. Of all the QB's mentioned who could get a Turk visit, he's the worst. JMO. I'm sorry, what? I highly doubt they see the waiver wire. If Bills were worried about losing Tuel last year, no way do teams put QBs with real talent on waivers. Bills will have to work out a trade. So they keep 4 QBs gambling on a trade? Roster spots are pretty valuable these days. Only way that works is if there is another guy on the roster with a short-term injury, on inactive with great depth behind him, PUP situation or the new IR from which you can return. After tonight's game, where Kellen Moore carved up up our defense, I almost feel sorry for anyone who thinks Kellen Moore can be an NFL QB. What about an NFL backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 I would take Colt McCoy right now. He's had a good preseason. 4tds 3ints roughly 400 yards in three games of limited time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 So they keep 4 QBs gambling on a trade? Roster spots are pretty valuable these days. Only way that works is if there is another guy on the roster with a short-term injury, on inactive with great depth behind him, PUP situation or the new IR from which you can return. The only shot we have is with teams who have 4 QBs, and even then they may get creative. There's a reason QB is the hardest spot to fill on a team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billykaykay Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Ponder would be best but I think the Vikes would be smart to hold onto him. I like Chase Daniel but he has a decent contract and doubt he is cut. Matt Scott and Trent have already been cut Matt Scott is a Russell Wilson type of player. Like him as a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRQ_BillsFan Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) They are all bums that would provide negligible difference if called on for any length of time. Edited August 29, 2014 by SRQ_BillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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