xsoldier54 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Can we please let it go and get the thread back on track? I would be happy to let it go, but I refuse to be talked down to. BTW I think Cohen is a hell of a player too. Leonard Cohen died? Hallelujah! :worthy: :worthy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Not even remotely close to being the same thing. You may as well give it up, because if you don't get it, you just don't get it. As I said previously, no explanation will suffice for you and you will stick to your opinion that it meant nothing and wasn't the least bit offensive or insensitive. You haven't proved that it wasn't any more than I have proved that it was. Do you really want to keep going back and forth like this? And by the way, it was not the "mere utterance of the word Ork". It was the context in which it was used and the time frame. Let me ask you this. If Robin Williams had not just died, do you think the OP would have made reference to Ork? Of course not. There is a line in an Edgar Winter song that very aptly describes this whole thread. "You know I've heard it said theres beauty in distortion, By some people who withdraw to find their head, And they say there is humor in misfortune, Now, I wonder if they'll laugh when I am dead." How are they different? Name one way. Please explain how the context made it offensive since it wasn't just Ork and it wasn't the "too soon" part as you've already stated. Which of the other seven words (i.e, "context") made it offensive? Maybe an explanation will suffice. You haven't offered one yet. Your question is irrelevant. I do want to keep going back and forth. It requires minimal time and effort on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Jauronimo, you seem really inspired to take on this debate with people who were offended, and are likely grieving in their own way. First off, please at least acknowledge this isn't the place for it. This debate club bull **** has completely hijacked the Leonard Cohen thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Jauronimo, you seem really inspired to take on this debate with people who were offended, and are likely grieving in their own way. First off, please at least acknowledge this isn't the place for it. This debate club bull **** has completely hijacked the Leonard Cohen thread. Where Cohen came from was addressed on page 1. This thread has been nothing but outrage since page 2. I'll acknowledge no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 This isn't an argument. This is abuse. Argument is down the hall. Now might be a good time to close this thread. I don't think Cohen--who I'm hopeful turns out to be an impact player on this defensive line, fwiw--is the subject matter any longer. Shut your blithering gob, you twitt! Can we please let it go and get the thread back on track? Abuse? Abuse!! You can't handle the abuse! Leonard Cohen died?l Hallelujah! Too soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 First off, please at least acknowledge this isn't the place for it. This debate club bull **** has completely hijacked the Leonard Cohen thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Since you're so interested, and the discussion is already completely derailed, I'll give you my take: The original comment wasn't even a joke, it was just a Robin William reference. There wasn't enough humor there to warrant making people think about something they might be working through on some level. I'm grieving Robin Williams a bit. Not much, much less than if a friend or a pet died, but a bit. I thought Robin Williams was inspirational. I too have suffered from depression for a long time and have loved RW's humor since my childhood. The speed with which he could process and jump wholesale into a new thing was very impressive. I'd feel similarly I think if my other favorite influences (musicians, authors etc.) passed away, especially if I knew they suffered. So I don't think the explanation of offense is in the literal words. I actually came into this thread to read about Landon Cohen. The Bills and this site are my guilty pleasures, distracting me from the stress and bull **** in the world. When I saw that posts, my gut reaction was "yes, too soon!" If it was a really clever joke, it would have been worth it, but it wasn't. For me, in awhile (a couple weeks?) by all means make jokes. My offense wasn't enough to warrant a post. But much more offensive than the attempt at humor has been the subsequent hounding of people who spoke up to say they were offended. You really want them to justify their emotions to you? And you're doubly offended they don't take the time to spell out why they think the original comment should not have been made, or why it was too soon for them? I can only speak for me. That's my take. I'm not really interested in dwelling in discussion of Robin Williams, or why it makes me feel crappy to see someone jumping on someone else when they feel down. I wouldn't mid, however, reading more insight about the Bills or our upstart DT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Since you're so interested, and the discussion is already completely derailed, I'll give you my take: The original comment wasn't even a joke, it was just a Robin William reference. There wasn't enough humor there to warrant making people think about something they might be working through on some level. I'm grieving Robin Williams a bit. Not much, much less than if a friend or a pet died, but a bit. I thought Robin Williams was inspirational. I too have suffered from depression for a long time and have loved RW's humor since my childhood. The speed with which he could process and jump wholesale into a new thing was very impressive. I'd feel similarly I think if my other favorite influences (musicians, authors etc.) passed away, especially if I knew they suffered. So I don't think the explanation of offense is in the literal words. I actually came into this thread to read about Landon Cohen. The Bills and this site are my guilty pleasures, distracting me from the stress and bull **** in the world. When I saw that posts, my gut reaction was "yes, too soon!" If it was a really clever joke, it would have been worth it, but it wasn't. For me, in awhile (a couple weeks?) by all means make jokes. My offense wasn't enough to warrant a post. But much more offensive than the attempt at humor has been the subsequent hounding of people who spoke up to say they were offended. You really want them to justify their emotions to you? And you're doubly offended they don't take the time to spell out why they think the original comment should not have been made, or why it was too soon for them? I can only speak for me. That's my take. I'm not really interested in dwelling in discussion of Robin Williams, or why it makes me feel crappy to see someone jumping on someone else when they feel down. I wouldn't mid, however, reading more insight about the Bills or our upstart DT. So it wasn't actually offensive, it just evoked memory that the man had passed which made you sad and BigCat should have known better than to mention anything even remotely related to Robin Williams for at least a "couple of weeks" maybe? I find it peculiar that you're OK with those calling out BigCat for being a bad person but you have a problem with me asking his detractors to explain themselves. If you're going to publicly shame a person for exhibiting such poor taste the least you can do is have an explanation. But I guess the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior. Not everything that makes you sad is offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 How are they different? Name one way. Please explain how the context made it offensive since it wasn't just Ork and it wasn't the "too soon" part as you've already stated. Which of the other seven words (i.e, "context") made it offensive? Maybe an explanation will suffice. You haven't offered one yet. Your question is irrelevant. I do want to keep going back and forth. It requires minimal time and effort on my part. My question is irrelevant? Your answer is irrelevant. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very well thought out and logical explanations that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up some sensitivity and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 My question is irrelevant? Your answer is irrelevant. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very well thought out and logical explanations that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up some sensitivity and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. First rate butchery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 My question is irrelevant? Your answer is irrelevant. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very well thought out and logical explanations that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up some sensitivity and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. I'm actually genuinely curious to know who you think it was insensitive to. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 First rate butchery. Thank you. I'm actually genuinely curious to know who you think it was insensitive to. Seriously. C'mon Big Cat. You know it was in poor taste. And contrary to what Jauronimo has stated I don't think you're a bad person. I don't even know you personally. It was insensitive to anyone who was feeling a bit down at the loss of a man whose talent they admired. Simple as that. I didn't find it funny and I said so. I didn't expect to have a big debate about why I felt that way. For anyone who doesn't understand that, they probably never will and that's OK with me. I was just stating my opinion, not making any personal judgments. All the best to you and Go Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 First rate butchery. Yeah X....that was pretty bad lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I heard he came from the planet Ork. Too soon? No harm. Ork is fictional just like Jon Bon Jovi's fan letter! Edited August 14, 2014 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Yeah X....that was pretty bad lol... I know it was, but I can honestly state that no other movie quotations were harmed in the preparation of my response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It was insensitive to anyone who was feeling a bit down at the loss of a man whose talent they admired. Simple as that. All I needed to hear. I fully acknowledge that I draw my sensitivity lines way beyond most others', for better or for worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 I know it was, but I can honestly state that no other movie quotations were harmed in the preparation of my response. Makes me wanna give someone a friggen "CODE RED" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 So it wasn't actually offensive, it just evoked memory that the man had passed which made you sad and BigCat should have known better than to mention anything even remotely related to Robin Williams for at least a "couple of weeks" maybe? I find it peculiar that you're OK with those calling out BigCat for being a bad person but you have a problem with me asking his detractors to explain themselves. If you're going to publicly shame a person for exhibiting such poor taste the least you can do is have an explanation. But I guess the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior. Not everything that makes you sad is offensive. I didn't really find the original post offensive, just in poor taste, or reflecting a bit of poor judgement. I wouldn't really put it any stronger than saying it was a bit rude, like letting out a big fart during a moment of silence. And I fully acknowledge at the right moment that might be hilarious. The "too soon" comment seemed to reflect he knew it, and indeed he's come clean about that. I don't think there was much wrong about you asking what was offensive, except for the obvious reasons that it completely derailed the conversation. Go back and re-read. People were indeed pretty much ignoring the Ork reference and getting back to talking about the Bills up until that point. The follow up badgering for a rational explanation was over the line though. I'm okay with those "calling out" Big Cat by answering his question. The "Yes, too soon" and "people are still grieving" comments were fine. And yes, I have a problem with you pointedly asking people why exactly they are grieving or why they thought Big Cat shouldn't have made that post, at least yet. I didn't see any "public shaming". What a crock! That's your spin for people saying "yes too soon"? Who knows what people are going through, if they are depressed, know someone who has killed themselves, did actually know Robin Williams, or whatever! They shouldn't have to explain to you why it's too soon for them. Have some common courtesy and respect it when someone indicates they are hurting. You "guess the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior?" I have no idea where you're getting that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I didn't really find the original post offensive, just in poor taste, or reflecting a bit of poor judgement. I wouldn't really put it any stronger than saying it was a bit rude, like letting out a big fart during a moment of silence. And I fully acknowledge at the right moment that might be hilarious. The "too soon" comment seemed to reflect he knew it, and indeed he's come clean about that. I don't think there was much wrong about you asking what was offensive, except for the obvious reasons that it completely derailed the conversation. Go back and re-read. People were indeed pretty much ignoring the Ork reference and getting back to talking about the Bills up until that point. The follow up badgering for a rational explanation was over the line though. I'm okay with those "calling out" Big Cat by answering his question. The "Yes, too soon" and "people are still grieving" comments were fine. And yes, I have a problem with you pointedly asking people why exactly they are grieving or why they thought Big Cat shouldn't have made that post, at least yet. I didn't see any "public shaming". What a crock! That's your spin for people saying "yes too soon"? Who knows what people are going through, if they are depressed, know someone who has killed themselves, did actually know Robin Williams, or whatever! They shouldn't have to explain to you why it's too soon for them. Have some common courtesy and respect it when someone indicates they are hurting. You "guess the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior?" I have no idea where you're getting that. That much is evident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 @ Jauronimo : (14 August 2014 - 06:06 PM) The red sequined menace (referring to the gay ASU football player.) I take it that's not meant as an offensive jab, either? Stay classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Jarguemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 @ Jauronimo : (14 August 2014 - 06:06 PM) The red sequined menace (referring to the gay ASU football player.) I take it that's not meant as an offensive jab, either? Stay classy. Correct. That was said in jest. Go dig up my comments in the Michael Sam thread for more context. Out of curiosity, what does that have to do with anything here, Malooga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) That much is evident. Seriously? wtf are you talking about? I have no doubt you hold the belief that some people think "the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior", but where on earth was anyone but you saying that in this thread? (And if it's there, go see if they want to argue with you.) So, I answered your questions in two long posts. What do you think about the content? Or were you really just pretending to wonder why people didn't like Big Cat's first post or thought your questions were inappropriate? Edited August 14, 2014 by Matt in KC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Seriously? wtf are you talking about? I have no doubt you hold the belief that some people think "the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior", but where on earth was anyone but you saying that in this thread? (And if it's there, go see if they want to argue with you.) So, I answered your questions in two long posts. What do you think about the content? Or were you really just pretending to wonder why people didn't like Big Cat's first post or thought your questions were inappropriate? Welcome to my world Matt, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Correct. That was said in jest. Go dig up my comments in the Michael Sam thread for more context. Out of curiosity, what does that have to do with anything here, Malooga? You were trying to argue that what was said about Robin Williams was not "offensive," or, "in poor taste." Then you posted that (or "shouted" it)...and I was just curious? It has to do with this thread, because "offensive" comments were being discussed...and you made another one. We live in a world today where people are very different from one another...but why does that make it okay for someone to insult that person and the kind of life they live? I just don't understand it, at all. It blows my mind. To think you have to insult a football player because he finally finds it within himself to live HIS life for HIM? Or, to insult my football intelligence because of the type of music I listen to...like yesterday? It's mind blowing man...I just cannot grasp it, and for that...I guess I am sorry? Or, maybe I am just different...I have many gay friends, I love them like they are my brothers. I have also battled addiction and depression for a very long time, at least a decade...and as far as I have come, and although I would never take my own life, I hope to God that if I passed, you wouldn't be on here cracking jokes about my death. It's hard to open up like this, because I KNOW I WILL be judged...but if I didn't stand up for this, who am I? (I'm not who I want to be and I am no kind of "man" if I don't stand up for what I believe in.) *** I am not trying to start an argument again, I am just trying to understand this a little better. *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Seriously? wtf are you talking about? I have no doubt you hold the belief that some people think "the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior", but where on earth was anyone but you saying that in this thread? (And if it's there, go see if they want to argue with you.) So, I answered your questions in two long posts. What do you think about the content? Or were you really just pretending to wonder why people didn't like Big Cat's first post or thought your questions were inappropriate? I thought the content was so sufficiently poor, inconsistent and void of comprehension that it merited only the most dismissive of responses. You were trying to argue that what was said about Robin Williams was not "offensive," or, "in poor taste." Then you posted that (or "shouted" it)...and I was just curious? It has to do with this thread, because "offensive" comments were being discussed...and you made another one. We live in a world today where people are very different from one another...but why does that make it okay for someone to insult that person and the kind of life they live? I just don't understand it, at all. It blows my mind. To think you have to insult a football player because he finally finds it within himself to live HIS life for HIM? Or, to insult my football intelligence because of the type of music I listen to...like yesterday? It's mind blowing man...I just cannot grasp it, and for that...I guess I am sorry? Or, maybe I am just different...I have many gay friends, I love them like they are my brothers. I have also battled addiction and depression for a very long time, at least a decade...and as far as I have come, and although I would never take my own life, I hope to God that if I passed, you wouldn't be on here cracking jokes about my death. It's hard to open up like this, because I KNOW I WILL be judged...but if I didn't stand up for this, who am I? (I'm not who I want to be and I am no kind of "man" if I don't stand up for what I believe in.) *** I am not trying to start an argument again, I am just trying to understand this a little better. *** I didn't insult the way Safarin lives. I didn't make light of an actor's passing. This is a misguided stand to take. Taking your beef with me from yesterday and interjecting it in this thread while misrepresenting shoutbox conversations is pretty poor form. Yesterday's quip about Foster the People was also a joke, by the way. Lighten up. Edited August 14, 2014 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) I thought the content was so sufficiently poor, inconsistent and void of comprehension that it merited only the most dismissive of responses. I didn't insult the way Safarin lives. I didn't make light of an actor's passing. This is a misguided stand to take. Taking your beef with me from yesterday and interjecting it in this thread while misrepresenting shoutbox conversations is pretty poor form. Yesterday's quip about Foster the People was also a joke, by the way. Lighten up. "Sequined Menace?" What else could that POSSIBLY mean...and/or how is that "misrepresented," as it is presented here EXACTLY how you put it. It's pretty clear. Especially after posting the article about the kid and his decision. An offensive remark, is an offensive remark...whether it's in this thread or in the shoutbox. "Misguided?" My feelings towards these things are not misled...they are 100% spot-on. I have no beef with YOU, I have beef with the things you say...the Serafin comment is judgmental, in every way possible. But, it's clear you are the type that can never be wrong...so I will give it up here. Everyone have a good evening...Go Bills! PS. Lighten up? About insulting addicts, people who suffer from depression, and/or gay people? I'm sorry, I can't. EDIT: I know we are all capable of better conversation than this...let's get back to that and keep the insults to ourselves. Edited August 14, 2014 by Bob Malooga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I thought the content was so sufficiently poor, inconsistent and void of comprehension that it merited only the most dismissive of responses. Well screw you too. I'm sorry I actually tried to engage you, really. Do us all a favor and start your next diatribe on the sensitivities and all that is wrong in America in PPP or the Off the Wall forums next time, especially if you don't really want to talk about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It makes me sad to think that this Training Camp fight broke out on the day Leonard Cohen died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 In some odd irony, Landon Cohen was involved in a fight at camp tonight. @SteelerJsun: FIGHT!!! First #Steelers' Cody Wallace vs. Landon Cohen, then A.B. throws a left at the Bills' Charles Johnson... http://t.co/gcYQhpBJgS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 In some odd irony, Landon Cohen was involved in a fight at camp tonight. @SteelerJsun: FIGHT!!! First #Steelers' Cody Wallace vs. Landon Cohen, then A.B. throws a left at the Bills' Charles Johnson... http://t.co/gcYQhpBJgS Too soon ....in practice to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I thought the content was so sufficiently poor, inconsistent and void of comprehension that it merited only the most dismissive of responses. I didn't insult the way Safarin lives. I didn't make light of an actor's passing. This is a misguided stand to take. Taking your beef with me from yesterday and interjecting it in this thread while misrepresenting shoutbox conversations is pretty poor form. Yesterday's quip about Foster the People was also a joke, by the way. Lighten up. Everyone should always be the bigger person and let silly tiffs go. And even some more serious disagreements in life .I dont always succeed . But i sure try . consider this an opportunty It makes me sad to think that this Training Camp fight broke out on the day Leonard Cohen died. What ! No no no not Leonard ! I knew him well . Oh rue the day.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Too soon ....in practice to fight. Man, you are my favorite. The reigning champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Seriously? wtf are you talking about? I have no doubt you hold the belief that some people think "the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior", but where on earth was anyone but you saying that in this thread? (And if it's there, go see if they want to argue with you.) So, I answered your questions in two long posts. What do you think about the content? Or were you really just pretending to wonder why people didn't like Big Cat's first post or thought your questions were inappropriate? Some of us are annoyed by the faux outrage put on display constantly by the "look at me" crowd any time they can exploit something mildly off color (or offensive to the easily offended) to showcase their moral superiority. And it runs deeper than a post, or a thread, or even this board. It's an unfortunate, and quite frankly embarrassing, phenomenon that permeates the culture, like emo and hipsters. The only thing I find interesting about your participation in this thread is that you admittedly have no problem with an aggressive overreaction to an innocuous comment, but for some reason your offended that others were curious why the aggressive party was offended and had the audacity to ask him why he thought it was offensive. That is your position, isn't it? Edited August 15, 2014 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Some of us are annoyed by the faux outrage put on display constantly by the "look at me" crowd any time they can exploit something mildly off color (or offensive to the easily offended) to showcase their moral superiority. And it runs deeper than a post, or a thread, or even this board. It's an unfortunate, and quite frankly embarrassing, phenomenon that permeates the culture, like emo and hipsters. The only thing I find interesting about your participation in this thread is that you admittedly have no problem with an aggressive overreaction to an innocuous comment, but for some reason your offended that others were curious why the aggressive party was offended and had the audacity to ask him why he thought it was offensive. That is your position, isn't it? Thanks for the response. I expected similar engagement by Jauronimo. It has been a very long, draining week, and I'm a bit raw. I'm too weary to go into it deeply here and now. Another day I might very much enjoy diving into that with you in another thread. I don't understand how you can characterize xsoldier54's post as an aggressive over-reaction: "Absolutely too soon and in very poor taste. A man has died and a whole lot of people who loved him are grieving." In my mind it's simple: if someone tells you that you are being an ass and disturbing someone who's grieving, you shut up or go somewhere more appropriate to carry on. I saw Jauronimo persistently pushing xsoldier54 and John from Hemet for a full analysis of what was said, why this isn't the time or place, and that's what pissed me off enough to post. Well, that and I came to the board not feeling well, wanting my favorite drug (Bills news/discussion) and coming away feeling worse than I started. I went from being in a bad mood to being a really bad mood. I would have no issue at all with the jokes and discussion in a Robin Williams thread or if was a brief aside from the discussion. Humor sometimes fails. For me, the Ork comment was out-of-place but whatever, not really offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webster Guy Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 What is the connection here? Before last year, Marrone and Robey had nothing to do with eachother. Marrone talked about noticing robey's speed and instincts in college and pushed for signing him after the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Marrone talked about noticing robey's speed and instincts in college and pushed for signing him after the draft Yeah, Marrone faced Robey twice when he was the HC of Syracuse against USC and the Bills were calling Robey from the 5th round on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Yeah, Marrone faced Robey twice when he was the HC of Syracuse against USC and the Bills were calling Robey from the 5th round on. That soon? Too... [/givesup] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) Some of us are annoyed by the faux outrage put on display constantly by the "look at me" crowd any time they can exploit something mildly off color (or offensive to the easily offended) to showcase their moral superiority. And it runs deeper than a post, or a thread, or even this board. It's an unfortunate, and quite frankly embarrassing, phenomenon that permeates the culture, like emo and hipsters. The only thing I find interesting about your participation in this thread is that you admittedly have no problem with an aggressive overreaction to an innocuous comment, but for some reason your offended that others were curious why the aggressive party was offended and had the audacity to ask him why he thought it was offensive. That is your position, isn't it? Rob gets it. Its OK to lash out as long as your reasons are purely emotional. Emotional responses need no explanation according to Matt. You get a pass for bad behavior thats emotionally driven. But asking why someone is beating the drum of public shame is beyond the pale because thats clearly from the head and not from the heart. Thus my take away was "the whims of emotion are enough to justify any and all behavior". Its kind of like not wanting to engage in an argument, yet singling someone out and then actively pursuing an argument. Its a thought process that may require closer examination. Edited August 15, 2014 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Some of us are annoyed by the faux outrage put on display constantly by the "look at me" crowd any time they can exploit something mildly off color (or offensive to the easily offended) to showcase their moral superiority. And it runs deeper than a post, or a thread, or even this board. It's an unfortunate, and quite frankly embarrassing, phenomenon that permeates the culture, like emo and hipsters. The only thing I find interesting about your participation in this thread is that you admittedly have no problem with an aggressive overreaction to an innocuous comment, but for some reason your offended that others were curious why the aggressive party was offended and had the audacity to ask him why he thought it was offensive. That is your position, isn't it? First off, it was not an "innocuous comment". The person who posted it and I have discussed it and he understands why his comment was in poor taste. Secondly there was no "aggressive overreaction". And thirdly, there was no "faux outrage", at least not on my part. I stated my opinion, which as far as I know is still allowed in this country and I was attacked for it. People can have their own opinions about pretty much everything, but the reason I kept responding is that I felt I was being talked down to by someone who felt somehow superior to me. Your post wreaks of the same mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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