cjatcreek07 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Doesn't make sense how a guy can smoke pot and miss a whole year and Rice gets two games for punching his then fiance/now wife. To be honest, I don't really care that charges will be dismissed and that they worked it out and are now married he should get at least 4-6 games the entire season if not more. I would be cool with a one year suspension for the first offense and a ban from the league if it happens again. I think this is the new domestic violence law Goodell instated, and now he should go back and give Rice a full year suspension if he had any gonads. Edited September 8, 2014 by LoyalToTheEnd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 @JayGlazer If you play a violent sport & are violent toward a woman ur right to play that sport should be taken away. I get what Glazer is saying, but his "logic" is non-senscial here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Think about it this way. You can get jail time for being negligent in an accident. If you're at all aware of your surroundings, you know that you could damn near kill someone if they hit their head on a rail in a small space like an elevator. This was not criminal negligence, but intent, magnified and made worse by the surroundings. The guy should be in jail and is lucky his wife isn't brain-damaged. This is pretty indisputable unless you somehow believe this video is edited, and even then that's a major stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I understand where you're coming from, but real justice should be coming from a court of law. As is often the case with domestic violence, they are not at all holding up their responsibilities here. Rich people are immune to the law, most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Everything being equal, paying this guy millions while he beats his wife seems a little out of line. He needs to be fined for his actions (major fine), then lose his job. To me, this is as bad as Hernandez because there's no video of Hernandez killing anyone but this is point blank a smoking gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Domestic violence is a serious issue in this country. What we see in that video takes place on a regular basis in certain percentage of relationships. Actually engaging in the type of physical violence we see in that video is not "crossing a fine line," it is a fu#@ing quantum leap. There is never a context that justifies that type of behavior from a man. Goodell didn't need this video (although I will never be convinced he didn't see it or at least know of its existence) to set the standard of punishment for NFL players who engage in this type of behavior - it was obvious to everyone familiar with the facts what happened in that elevator. However, now that the video is out, as far as I am concerned, two things should happen: 1) Rice should be banned from the NFL and 2) Goodell should step down. The actions of both were reprehensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Doesn't make sense how a guy can smoke pot and miss a whole year and Rice gets two games for punching his then fiance/now wife. To be honest, I don't really care that charges will be dismissed and that they worked it out and are now married he should get at least 4-6 games. Please stop with the "guy can smoke pot." That's a false representation , and means nothing. Gordon failed numerous drug tests and got warnings. Weeks after his latest failed test, he got a DUI. Then he got a year suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 so the nfl is claiming it didn't have the video? If the police investigated they would have full access to the video and all the nfl had to do would file for a freedom of info request and should get the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I would be cool with a one year suspension for the first offense and a ban from the league if it happens again. I think this is the new domestic violence law Goodell instated, and now he should go back and give Rice a full year suspension if he had any gonads. I would be cool with him never wearing an NFL uniform again. Most employers would fire you on the spot if they had video evidence of you doing something that was illegal and/or made the company look bad. No second chances. He plays a child's game for ridiculous money. He can go away now. And if Goodell saw the video before he handed down the suspension then he can go away too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrod's Tailor Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 Frankly, it's embarrassing to even be a customer of the NFL's while this guy continues to be employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Anyone going to tell me if a public official , politician, were to have such a video of he or she punching and knocking out companion demands they step down immediately and full force of law not be applied, it appalling the hand wringing about this. To hell with the six games , season , he deserves to be gone and now. Sponsors , media those who make their monies and support the game through it need step up and refuse to be part of cult of enablers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess I'm one of the naive ones, because I did not expect to see what I saw in that video. I knew she was knocked out but I just didn't expect a full left cross to the jaw. Rice is a craptastic human being. If Goodell saw this video before administering the "punishment" he should just step down. What a disgrace. As for Rice himself -- how does a teammate see that and then want to "go to war" with this guy? I would not at all be surprised to see the Ravens cut bait within the next week. In boxing circles, a Left is a Hook and a Right is a cross. But I digress.. I agree with the poster(s) who say 'What did you expect happened?', and wonder the same thing from the League office.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I really didn't know what happened in the elevator, I was holding out hope maybe she fell down (naive I know). There's no denying this guy shouldn't be allowed to play in the NFL any longer, Roger shouldn't be left standing if he had this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 so the nfl is claiming it didn't have the video? If the police investigated they would have full access to the video and all the nfl had to do would file for a freedom of info request and should get the video. I guess TMZ has more clout than does the NFL. So which is it, NFL. You did or didn't have access to the video that TMZ got? What I want to know is ..... did Godell make his decision without looking at all the evidence or did he look at the evidence yet still decided to brush such a vial and disgusting act aside with nary a slap on the wrist? Godell and his league look incompetent and bad in either instance. Rice should be terminated as should Godell. https://twitter.com/WillMcAvoyACN NFL's official store is currently selling this pink, rhinestone accented Ray Rice v-neck. http://www.nflshop.com/Ray_Rice_Gear/Ray_Rice_Baltimore_Ravens_Womens_Draft_Him_Shimmer_V-Neck_T-Shirt_-_Pink … #hypocrites https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxBLMioCMAAEdvs.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I guess TMZ has more clout than does the NFL. So which is it, NFL. You did or didn't have access to the video that TMZ got? What I want to know is ..... did Godell make his decision without looking at all the evidence or did he look at the evidence yet still decided to brush such a vial and disgusting act aside with nary a slap on the wrist? Godell and his league look incompetent and bad in either instance. Rice should be terminated as should Godell. what goodell did was look at the last decade of punishment, and hand out a punishment in line with what the offense has previously gotten on a consistent basis. he then said this will no longer be the standard that we use. it may now be the strictest policy on the books. is anything else mandatory 6 games first offense, and very rare have i ever heard the words lifetime ban used by the nfl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 what goodell did was look at the last decade of punishment, and hand out a punishment in line with what the offense has previously gotten on a consistent basis. he then said this will no longer be the standard that we use. it may now be the strictest policy on the books. is anything else mandatory 6 games first offense, and very rare have i ever heard the words lifetime ban used by the nfl? I call it plausible deniability. This is not going to end up well for Godell and the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Piece of schitt needs to be banned for life. Period. No due process. No appeals. Just schittcan him immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pondslider Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) what goodell did was look at the last decade of punishment, and hand out a punishment in line with what the offense has previously gotten on a consistent basis. he then said this will no longer be the standard that we use. it may now be the strictest policy on the books. is anything else mandatory 6 games first offense, and very rare have i ever heard the words lifetime ban used by the nfl? It's not even a mandatory 6 game suspension. From Goodell's letter: Effective immediately, violations of the Personal Conduct Policy regarding assault, battery, domestic violence or sexual assault that involve physical force will be subject to a suspension without pay of six games for a first offense, with consideration given to mitigating factors, as well as a longer suspension when circumstances warrant. Which really means "Six games is the starting point, but if we decide she really had it coming we can lower it." It was a wishy-washy statement that meant nothing to get people to stop complaining about the suspension by making it seem like they were doing something. Based on this, the NFL could hand out another 2 games for the next first offense and still be following their Personal Conduct Policy. Edited September 8, 2014 by Pondslider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufcomments Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 the commish handed down his suspension. I don't think the league office will do anything more. But the Ravens should add more games to the suspension, remove all Ray Rice jerseys from the shelfs and issue a public statement on way this action should never be allowed in their organization. Like Today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Piece of schitt needs to be banned for life. Period. No due process. No appeals. Just schittcan him immediately. You'd be surprised how unpopular this position is on this site. I agree 100% with you, however. The NFL should ban him for life and the players' union should back the decision up without blinking an eye. (The new owner of the Bills should also remove Simpson's name from the wall) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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