RyanC883 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Have to add..Just watched Mike Evans catch ..Wow. This is the big receiver we need. Size, speed and hands. Have to say I was a huge Evans doubter. Not anymore. His combine was amazing. And he has the tape to match. I think he may be a tall Larry Fitzgerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Having watched Evans play, I rarely saw him get separation without a push-off of some kind. The stop watch doesn't alter how I view his history of getting open. I don't see it translating to the NFL. I agree, most of his big plays were busted scrambles from manziel. the kid has size and speed which you can't teach but does push off a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I agree, most of his big plays were busted scrambles from manziel. the kid has size and speed which you can't teach but does push off a ton. The push off is actually a skill. The great ones don't get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) I agree, most of his big plays were busted scrambles from manziel. Most of Texas A&M's pass plays were busted scrambles by Manziel.... I don't think you can use that as a knock on Evans. Edited February 24, 2014 by GunnerBill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 what's everyone's thoughts on martavis bryant? sick size and speed combo but played second fiddle to watkins. I always thought he got a bad rap with how inaccurate boyd could be at times. I'd love to take a shot at this guy in the 3rd but I'm thinking he might go a little higher with that 40 time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwchze Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Playmaker=Evans..Its what we need. Big tall receiver who catches everything. Im impressed.Get the ot later. Been beating this drum for a while. Watkins will be gone..I think if we can get Evans or Ebron. we just changed our dynamics. Man Evans reminds me of michael irvin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The push off is actually a skill. The great ones don't get caught. Is that right?? Is holding a skill as well? When it costs us a huge first down let me know how skillful it almost looked. Most of Texas A&M's pass plays were busted scrambles by Manziel.... I don't think you can use that as a knock on Evans. I'm not but a knock has been his route running, he may run a decent tree but when Manziel ad libs before the WR goes through his route how much can you really know? I like the guy and would be happy with either he or Benjamin at 9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Is that right?? Is holding a skill as well? When it costs us a huge first down let me know how skillful it almost looked. Ask the Seahawks' secondary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Martavis Bryant....6'4", Official 4.42 at the Combine, a Junior, 39 Vertical, leader in the broad jump and check out his highlights...this kid would be a great pick-up in the 3rd...btw, watched his combine yesterday, he was fluid, great hands, and impressive...that's the only word to describe the kid...impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBY_lsCjCT4 There's 4 or 5 catches in that highlight that really show what this kid can do...catches balls in contest with defenders, has pull-away speed, can go up and get it and catches in traffic....talk about a #1 prototype, coupled with his measurables yesterday at the Combine, I think he can sneak into the 2nd Round...too good to pass up, no pun intended there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Martavis Bryant....6'4", Official 4.42 at the Combine, a Junior, 39 Vertical, leader in the broad jump and check out his highlights...this kid would be a great pick-up in the 3rd...btw, watched his combine yesterday, he was fluid, great hands, and impressive...that's the only word to describe the kid...impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBY_lsCjCT4 There's 4 or 5 catches in that highlight that really show what this kid can do...catches balls in contest with defenders, has pull-away speed, can go up and get it and catches in traffic....talk about a #1 prototype, coupled with his measurables yesterday at the Combine, I think he can sneak into the 2nd Round...too good to pass up, no pun intended there... Bigger Stevie. Wild catch....then drops an easy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Have to add..Just watched Mike Evans catch ..Wow. This is the big receiver we need. Size, speed and hands. Yeah. He'd make a great 1st Rounder for the Bills! Rather take Ebron though... Big Play TE's add another wrinkle to the Offense. Makes the D respect the position. Edited February 24, 2014 by mattsox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yeah. He'd make a great 1st Rounder for the Bills! Rather take Ebron though... Big Play TE's add another wrinkle to the Offense. Makes the D respect the position. The potential advantage to Ebron over Evans is that we currently have three decent WR (Stevie, Woods, Goodwin), so Evans would usually be pushing one of them to the bench. With Ebron, all three stay on the field along with him for four good targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Yeah. He'd make a great 1st Rounder for the Bills! Rather take Ebron though... Big Play TE's add another wrinkle to the Offense. Makes the D respect the position. I love Ebron's physical ability but I changed my mind when I saw his drop rate was roughly 12% last year. That's not nearly good enough for a pass catching TE no matter how special his physical gifts are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I love Ebron's physical ability but I changed my mind when I saw his drop rate was roughly 12% last year. That's not nearly good enough for a pass catching TE no matter how special his physical gifts are. http://www.footballoutsiders.com/futures/2013/futures-unc-te-eric-ebron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Ask the Seahawks' secondary Excellent argument. They were only the best defense in the league last year. Not sure where your point holds water, now if you said Revis, Cromartie or Hall I would agree with you. Seattles front 7 was the star of that team. The secondary was the cherry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 No, just no. This team's lacked a REAL WR now for going on 8 years. Take one of these guys while they're here and get our QB a real weapon. You're thinking of Dana Carvey. yep. i stand corrected . I think BIG WR over Ebron might be the better investment. although we need both. We might have our TE's on the team already. We dont have the big playmaking WR yet. tis true Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 The potential advantage to Ebron over Evans is that we currently have three decent WR (Stevie, Woods, Goodwin), so Evans would usually be pushing one of them to the bench. With Ebron, all three stay on the field along with him for four good targets. Except Ebron isn't very effective as an in-line TE. So you would be lining him up in the slot like the Saints do with Graham, the Niners with Davis, and how the Pats used to with Hernandez. Which is exactly where you could line Evans up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Excellent argument. They were only the best defense in the league last year. Not sure where your point holds water, now if you said Revis, Cromartie or Hall I would agree with you. Seattles front 7 was the star of that team. The secondary was the cherry. Really? Seattle's secondary is the literal poster child for defensive holding. They've flat out admitted that they do it every play knowing they won't get called for it repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokinES3 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I like Matthews but I feel he is more of a possession wr, a slightly more athletic David Nelson. I agree with this. EJ's ball placement needs to be better (injuries to himself and wrs hurt this timing) but there were a few deep balls, especially to Goodwin, that are complete if Goodwin wasn't so small. A 6'5" receiver would have caught them easily. Have the Bills ever had a legit receiver over 6'2"? If you count Lofton past his prime... Moulds was 6'2" I believe. Essentially, no they haven't in my recollection. I'm all for Evans. Can't teach that combo of speed, size, and strength. 9th is higher than I'd prefer, but his upside is too good to ignore IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Mike Evans at 9. Game. Set. Match. We found a stud of a LT in the 2nd round, there will be plenty of Ts to take later on. No RT will affect a game the way Mike Evans will. When is Antonio Richardson projected to go? He looks like a stud RT to me... We also need a TE. Really really badly. Get one of those too Richardson was our pick at #41 in a sim I just ran with the new Big Board. Would you prefer Ebron-Richardson, Mosley-Richardson, or neither? If you count Lofton past his prime... Moulds was 6'2" I believe. Essentially, no they haven't in my recollection. I'm all for Evans. Can't teach that combo of speed, size, and strength. 9th is higher than I'd prefer, but his upside is too good to ignore IMHO. Evans went one pick after us to Detroit in my sim, so not a reach any more. He answered the big question, speed. What he still doesn't have checked off is his ability to run a full route tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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