Original Byrd Man Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 While he claims his D will not change concept I believe that is a misnomer. His D line will attack rather than read and react but with out the blitzing and stunts we saw with Pettine. I hope he is successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 My biggest concern is the lack of control of his players and emotions. His teams always have too many penalties and are either too high or too low. Thugs are the way of life, not smart. Even Schwartz demonstrated he was often out of control. He hurt his team by not thinking at times. While I hate unemotional coaches like Jauron a good coach needs to keep his wits about himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 My biggest concern is the lack of control of his players and emotions. His teams always have too many penalties and are either too high or too low. Thugs are the way of life, not smart. Even Schwartz demonstrated he was often out of control. He hurt his team by not thinking at times. While I hate unemotional coaches like Jauron a good coach needs to keep his wits about himself. We hired Schwartz. We did not trade for Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 My biggest concern is the lack of control of his players and emotions. His teams always have too many penalties and are either too high or too low. Thugs are the way of life, not smart. Even Schwartz demonstrated he was often out of control. He hurt his team by not thinking at times. While I hate unemotional coaches like Jauron a good coach needs to keep his wits about himself. Thugs?? Did you say Thugs?? Ohh nooooo, here we go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 My biggest concern is the lack of control of his players and emotions. His teams always have too many penalties and are either too high or too low. Thugs are the way of life, not smart. Even Schwartz demonstrated he was often out of control. He hurt his team by not thinking at times. While I hate unemotional coaches like Jauron a good coach needs to keep his wits about himself. You lost me at "thugs". Do you have a link for these occurrences, or are you relying on what you saw on Sportscenter a couple of times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 We hired Schwartz. We did not trade for Suh. And yet it was several Detroit players, and you might remember haynesworth in Tennessee. It's been a running theme. He also seems to be pretty lenient on off field issues when bringing guys in (can be good and bad) (pacman, haynesworth, titus young etc....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 My biggest concern is the lack of control of his players and emotions. His teams always have too many penalties and are either too high or too low. Thugs are the way of life, not smart. Even Schwartz demonstrated he was often out of control. He hurt his team by not thinking at times. While I hate unemotional coaches like Jauron a good coach needs to keep his wits about himself. Marrone is the head coach. If a player becomes undisciplined, it's on him. A team, including the assistants are a reflection of him. It's not Schwartz's team, it's Marrone's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Hopefully he can get Dareus to show up on time. As for the D not changing, I am not buying it. Coordinators implement and run their style. Not many go in to a job and say hey, I think I will do it the old guys way. We may see some nuances of the old D. The proof wiil be when OTAs and Training camp comes and players say im adapting to the new scheme etc etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 According to those on Bill Maher's show last Friday "Thug"'s has a new meaning. There are plenty of nasty / dirty players on many different teams. Romanowski comes to mind. If Schwartz can minimize the over pursuit on "blitz" style plays the Bills should be in better shape. May the Schwartz be with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 An "attacking" defense? When haven't we heard this from a newly hired DC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 According to those on Bill Maher's show last Friday "Thug"'s has a new meaning. There are plenty of nasty / dirty players on many different teams. Romanowski comes to mind. If Schwartz can minimize the over pursuit on "blitz" style plays the Bills should be in better shape. May the Schwartz be with them You lost me at Bill Maher. Virtually everything that comes out of his and his guests mouth is absolutely laughable in it's ridiculousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) An "attacking" defense? When haven't we heard this from a newly hired DC? "I'm hoping that we can end up pretty passive. Kind of accept what's given to us. I might not even design a scheme because that might be seen as an act of hostility by our opponent. Really, whatever happens, happens." (on an real life note - actual wannstedt quote: ``It's really an attacking defense. We don't sit back and read and react. It's a matter of attack or be attacked in the NFL, and we choose to attack. We're relying on our speed and quickness and thinking on the run.'') Edited January 28, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 According to those on Bill Maher's show last Friday "Thug"'s has a new meaning. There are plenty of nasty / dirty players on many different teams. Romanowski comes to mind. If Schwartz can minimize the over pursuit on "blitz" style plays the Bills should be in better shape. May the Schwartz be with them People like him want to see racism behind any corner and an America like Mississippi Burning. Plus, the guy is a pretentious, nasty douche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) No blitzing? 4-3? Hmmmmm, sounds familiar.* * - tongue in cheek Edited January 28, 2014 by Dorkington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just in Atlanta Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 (edited) No blitzing? 4-3? Hmmmmm, sounds familiar. Nooooooooo! I don't think guy is another Wanny, though -- fit it up! -- but it's likely he won't get crazy with the blitz schemes as much as Pettine. Edited January 28, 2014 by Just in Atlanta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Anyone else want to speculate on the new D scheme then criticize the coach based on your speculation? Is it Septwmber yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 "I'm hoping that we can end up pretty passive. Kind of accept what's given to us. I might not even design a scheme because that might be seen as an act of hostility by our opponent. Really, whatever happens, happens." (on an real life note - actual wannstedt quote: ``It's really an attacking defense. We don't sit back and read and react. It's a matter of attack or be attacked in the NFL, and we choose to attack. We're relying on our speed and quickness and thinking on the run.'') Great post NoSaint!--and the quote by Wanny should end this thread. Has a coach ever said his was not going to be an attacking style? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 It's hard to attack in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Anyone else want to speculate on the new D scheme then criticize the coach based on your speculation? Is it Septwmber yet? the interesting dynamic that ive found this week is that if you outline the defense hes run in the past you are told not to speculate or criticize (even when simply outlining the scheme) but if you say hes going to use something totally unheard of in his past and itll be a huge success then you are simply being realistic. i know the quote above was going to ruffle a few feathers, but i thought it would give some perspective on what these press conferences amount to. everyone wants to sound like they will be imposing their will on the opponent. in schwartzs case he has done that well at times, and not so well other times. hopefully he does it more often this go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 Marrone is the head coach. If a player becomes undisciplined, it's on him. A team, including the assistants are a reflection of him. It's not Schwartz's team, it's Marrone's this ^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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