D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Solve the O-Line problem in free agency...there are PLENTY of O-Lineman who will be available, at the right price. Guards: Travelle Wharton, Geoff Schwartz, Willie Colon, Jon Asamoah, Chad Rinehart, Zane Beadles, Richie Incognito, Shawn Lauvao. Tackles: Eugene Monroe, Jared Veldheer, Branden Albert, Jordon Gross, Anthony Collins, Roger Saffold, Michael Oher, Breno Giacomini, Charles Brown, Zach Strief, Austin Howard, Ryan Harris, Eric Winston, Tyson Clabo, Jason Fox, Will Svitek, J'Marcus Webb, Sean Locklear. ANY combo/duo of those guys would be an upgrade to Doug Legursky and Erik Pears...but they also like Unga, McClain and Asper. Once that is settled...draft Kelvin Benjamin (WR-FSU) in the 1st round, and then draft Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE-UW) in the 2nd round. They need to get the offense up to par with the defense, a big WR and athletic TE would do just that, giving EJ 2 big weapons/security blankets. (*On a sidenote...John Wendling is a free agent, and a ST "Ace" whom Danny Crossman coached in Detroit.) This is definetly the way to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I want them to do everything they can to protect Manuel and open holes for Jackson and Spiller. On D get help to stop the run. That being said, I'd have a very hard time passing on Sammy Watkins. Word Solve the O-Line problem in free agency...there are PLENTY of O-Lineman who will be available, at the right price. Guards: Travelle Wharton, Geoff Schwartz, Willie Colon, Jon Asamoah, Chad Rinehart, Zane Beadles, Richie Incognito, Shawn Lauvao. Tackles: Eugene Monroe, Jared Veldheer, Branden Albert, Jordon Gross, Anthony Collins, Roger Saffold, Michael Oher, Breno Giacomini, Charles Brown, Zach Strief, Austin Howard, Ryan Harris, Eric Winston, Tyson Clabo, Jason Fox, Will Svitek, J'Marcus Webb, Sean Locklear. ANY combo/duo of those guys would be an upgrade to Doug Legursky and Erik Pears...but they also like Unga, McClain and Asper. Once that is settled...draft Kelvin Benjamin (WR-FSU) in the 1st round, and then draft Austin Seferian-Jenkins (TE-UW) in the 2nd round. They need to get the offense up to par with the defense, a big WR and athletic TE would do just that, giving EJ 2 big weapons/security blankets. (*On a sidenote...John Wendling is a free agent, and a ST "Ace" whom Danny Crossman coached in Detroit.) Willie Colon, Jon Asamoah, Chad Rinehart, Zane Beadles, Richie Incognito, Shawn Lauvao....... No thanks. How about a good guard. Wharton and Schwartz are ok, but we might have to overpay that above average talent. I think we need to draft a guard and if we can't get Wharton or Schwartz, or we'll be in the same situation next season, looking for another LG. joe D'allesandris made our OL look great, along with chans play calling. This year, our run blocking was below average IMO. We need to get some real talent on the OL. And there's not much talent at LG in FA. Tackle is a bit deeper and would hope to acquire one of the top 7 on your list. Free agency is Definitely the way to to fill RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I agree with NewEra. I'm not an O-Line expert but I don't think a lot of those guards are the answer. They might be an upgrade on Legurskey... but then that doesn't say much. I also agree that at tackle there is some talent available to upgrade Pears. As for the draft if Matthews is there at #9 I'd take him... (not sure he will be) but as I've said elsewhere my preference would be to trade back a few places and pick up another 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Count me in the corner of grabbing an elite G or T round 1. I think WRs take 3 seasons to develop see Moulds & Stevie, and we have a number of young guys. Probably go TE round 2, NT or LB round 3 & 4. Can't see them taking a G that high. Depending on who is available i think the Bills go WR, LB or TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Looking at the way the board is staking, it seems like this might be the best draft ever to have the bills typical 8-12 pick (what you get for going 6-10 / 7-9). There isn't any super elite must have talent that completely dwarfs the rest of the first round. Clowney is hot and cold and could bust, the QBs all are suspect in significant ways, etc. So the Bills sit at 9 with the easiest job ever, just pick one of the big time players that falls to them. The Bills could use a top flight WR, an elite LB, a QB if one they loved dropped or reach bit and grab a TE to finally give them a solve at a position they've been unable to truly fill for years. Looking at the draft I see 11 players that would be great additions to the Bills at 9. Am I missing something? Is the universe finally favoring the Bills? Any of these guys would be huge for Buffalo: DE: Clowney, LB: Barr, QB: Manziel, WR: Watkins, QB: Bortles, WR: Evans, LB: Mosely, LB: Mack, OT: Matthews, TE: Ebron, QB: Bridgewater. Does this mean a meteor is about to hit? Agreed a #9 pick this year will have some serious talent available if all the QBs are taken as expected before us. But the good luck means there will be some top rated talent there for a trade with another team. The Bills need more than one whole filled, in fact a lot of holes filed. Trading back would give us so many better options. OL talent is deep this year, as is TE talent and LB talent. We need all three. A late 1st pick and 2 2nd round picks could give us 3 excellent shots at filling holes. Three good chances at getting a real talent at positions of need are better than a #9 single chance at a potential star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 OT, ILB or trade back. Perhaps they pull the trigger on Watkins or Benjamin at #9, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I think there was a thread a few weeks ago on the #9 pick, but I'll play along. Of the 12 players you listed three are QB's (I don't see the Bills drafting a QB). Of the remaining players listed, and if history repeats itself, we will pass over on the LB's and TE's and look for a "diamond in the rough" project punt return specialist from Chadron State coming off retinal re-attachment surgery with persistent Bells palsy. You joke, but you're right. The Bills' problem has always been getting too cute in the 1st round. Cute picks include: Whitner, Maybin, Flowers, McGahee, Lynch, Spiller, Losman, McKelvin. A few of these guys arguably worked out, but not really. I would rather they just trade down and pick some safe player-- e.g., CB's and interior linemen are usually pretty safe and you cant; out-think yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 I might agree with this if Manuel was a slacker. But by all accounts, he is a very hard worker. He beat out Kolb (not amazing but still). You're also cheating your QB of a 1st round pick that can be used for a position upgrade (wr, TE, oline). There was a time when teams didn't give up rookies after one year. Crazy I know. Actually there was a time when it was the norm to take 4 years to groom a NFL QB to become a starter. That really started to fizzle in 1983 because of Dan Marino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 It seems to me that there is depth at the O-line position in this draft (I could be wrong). I'd rather take one of the elite WR's in the first round (Watkins if he falls to us, or Lee) or one of the elite LB's (Barr, Mack, Mosley), and take a guard/tackle in the 2nd. You joke, but you're right. The Bills' problem has always been getting too cute in the 1st round. Cute picks include: Whitner, Maybin, Flowers, McGahee, Lynch, Spiller, Losman, McKelvin. A few of these guys arguably worked out, but not really. I would rather they just trade down and pick some safe player-- e.g., CB's and interior linemen are usually pretty safe and you cant; out-think yourself. I agree with you. That's why I advocate a safe stud. I'm also weary of drafting a lineman early (Mike Williams). The ones drafted early this year didn't live up to the hype either. Now, if Jake Matthews falls to us somehow I would change my mind. He seems about as safe a pick as you can get. But I think Watkins, Lee, Mack, Barr and Mosley are safe, high impact picks also. OT, ILB or trade back. Perhaps they pull the trigger on Watkins or Benjamin at #9, but I doubt it. I'd do Watkins, Benjamin still scares me. He shot up in the national championship game, but before that was a projected 2nd or 3rd round pick. He also dropped a pretty easy ball in the Championship game. He's a bit inconsistent for a #9 pick. He could be a large SJ. Will be fantastic at times, and drive us nuts others. I'd go w/ Lee over him. My top priority would be LB though. There will be a stud at that position when we pick, and it could make the D dominant for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually there was a time when it was the norm to take 4 years to groom a NFL QB to become a starter. That really started to fizzle in 1983 because of Dan Marino. The 1982 Dolphins went to the Super Bowl, in a strike shortened season with David Woodley as QB. Marino was on a very good well coached team in his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Actually there was a time when it was the norm to take 4 years to groom a NFL QB to become a starter. That really started to fizzle in 1983 because of Dan Marino. freaking Dan Marino! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) Carlos Hyde (in the mold of an Eddie Lacy/Lagarrette Blount type RB) is projected as possibly the 6th RB to be drafted. If we could get him in the 4th. I would be ecstatic. I think he would fit Marrone/Hackett's offense and could take over for Fred or at least reduce his carries. NE uses 3 RBs - Ridley, Vereen and Blount. They could use Fred like Ridely, Spiller like Vereen (passing game and screens) and Hyde like Blount). And yes, he does have breakaway speed in addition to being 6'0, 232 and a truck. Edited January 15, 2014 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Round 1 - Best OT prospect on the board Round 2 - Best OG prospect on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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