BmarvB Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Really sucks that when DeHaven was coaching the Bills Special teams the first time, he was fired and replaced with the worst ST coach in team history (Ronnie Jones) who happened to be a buddy of Wade Phillips. Then he comes back for a second time around, and what happens? he's canned again - and replaced with the SECOND worst ST coach in Bills history (Crossman) who happens to be a buddy of Doug Marrone. Personnaly, I miss Bobby April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 April doesn't miss The Bills. He walked off in a huff when he wasn't given the HC job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Really sucks that when DeHaven was coaching the Bills Special teams the first time, he was fired and replaced with the worst ST coach in team history (Ronnie Jones) who happened to be a buddy of Wade Phillips. Then he comes back for a second time around, and what happens? he's canned again - and replaced with the SECOND worst ST coach in Bills history (Crossman) who happens to be a buddy of Doug Marrone. Personnaly, I miss Bobby April. I would love to see DeHaven back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Personnaly, I miss Bobby April. The question you have to ask is if you want April as the head coach. He left because he wasn't offered the head coaching position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would love to see DeHaven back In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Both guys just need big tall fast guys to make tackles when they are blocked... We need a six pack of play makers on ST! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureBillsGM Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 April has bounced around a lot since leaving Buffalo and is possibly going to be canned in Oakland this week. I doubt he has any head coach aspirations left but still may be miffed at the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I 90 Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. Sometimes simple is smart. DeHaven is playoff bound with Carolina in a subordinate role, I wish him luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Steve Tasker and Mark Pike would have made any special teams coach look brilliant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I would love to see DeHaven back Why? So he can get fired for a third time and then the Bills could hire the 3rd worst ST coach in the teams history? Hahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never NEVER Give-up Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. You're just trying to evoke a reaction! You must be kidding!! I thought you were going to say how the Bills were only good because of Tasker and Mark Pike! Rick Gosselin's annual ranking of Special Teams had Buffalo near the top for years during Levy/DeHaven's tenure. In fact, the coverage teams were the best part of the special teams with Tasker and Pike making tackles virtually every time. It was our return game that was lacking for talent, never any great returners, but always sound units. Now we have solid returners who cannot show their greatness because every kick seems to go thru the end zone. (McKelvin, Goodwin, Spiller, Easley are all top notch, Jim Leonhard is so technically sound, his abilities are vastly underestimated.) Our coverage units are poor and we can't seem to find a guy who can put his kicks thru the endzone like our opponents do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. It would have been a "genius" move if Crossman used that strategy therefore Blount wouldn't have had the yardage he had on special teams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. It is pretty genius... Just imagine if a team had a punter that could kick it/drop out of bounds anywhere on the field. Wouldn't that be great. Simple is sometimes the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Bobby April's Special Teams unit in Oakland is ranked worse than ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 April doesn't miss The Bills. He walked off in a huff when he wasn't given the HC job. maybe he should have been ??? In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. a heck of a lot better than watching them run, 20, 30, 40, yards up the field . . . indeed, looks downright brilliant compared to what we watched this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) In my view, DeHaven is barely an improvement over Crossman. DeHaven's genius strategy was just to have his punters kick the ball out of bounds, because his coverage teams were so poor. I disagree here. https://www.youtube....h?v=g1xJ9mViojI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxphsrETDCA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zMehnSmpGE Edited December 31, 2013 by justnzane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) If you guys are citing to early 90s bills ST performance, then you are really stretching to defend dehaven. Those teams were loaded and had 2 ST aces (one hall of famer). I can cite to you the music city miracle-- probably the single worst display of coaching in the history of all sports. I am also going to pull up the post-MCM stats, and am pretty confident that dehaven's units were some of the worst. I won't even get into last year's debacle when dehaven forced Moorman (one of the longest tenured guys) out mid-season for his all-world chosen punter, Sean Powell. Edit: Didn't DeHaven oversee the Chad Morton 2 KO-TD return OT loss to the Jets a few years ago? Edit 2: For six straight years, the Buffalo Bills' special teams units - coached in that span by Bobby April - rated in the top four of Rick Gosselin's annual special teams rankings. They finished first in that listing three times, including in 2008. This year, Buffalo's special teams - coordinated by Bruce DeHaven, returning to the organization for the first time since the Music City Miracle - fell all the way to No. 27 in Gosselin's rankings, according to Allen Wilson of The Buffalo News. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/2/15/1994739/bills-special-teams-see-drop-off-under-bruce-dehaven Edited December 31, 2013 by JR in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbalaya Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Both guys just need big tall fast guys to make tackles when they are blocked... We need a six pack of play makers on ST! ST is about having the players in the right scheme to make the plays and then inspiring them to go beyond to make the big play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 ST is about having the players in the right scheme to make the plays and then inspiring them to go beyond to make the big play. gee , sound simple enough . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 April doesn't miss The Bills. He walked off in a huff when he wasn't given the HC job. Given who they hired he was right to be pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Stay in your lanes. Is it really that hard? Perhaps we should care about the offensive line a bit more than the punter and the gunners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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