Solomon Grundy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The needs of this team remain the same as they did at the beginning of the year.... - TE.....stop throwing afterthought at this position....resign Chandler AND draft a TE high.....a guy who is athletic....open when he is covered....flypaper hands AND can block - LB....(and I have no problem flip flopping these in order now that our pick will be high) but we need lb's that will scrape and attack like monsters....I was expecting Bradham to be Kiko's running mate but that didnt work out......wanna stop the run? You need athletic linebackers that can fill..... - LG......a road grating plow the road LG that can get to the 2nd level in the running game and open things up for our RB's - ANY WR that replaces Graham.....who is an absolute joke of a starting WR Because while players like GIlmore have been up and down......we already know after less then a season that Manuel is a bust even though he has played pretty well for a rookie. Khalil Mack in first, CJ Fiedorowicz in second, try our damnest to get Andre Johnson from Texans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUNCH OF MULARKEY Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I don't understand the owner talk. Did ralph fumble the ball twice. Did he miss a block. Did he miss open receivers? Did he blow his coverage on a receiver for a TD? Should he be flipping the bird to the other team. Ralph doesn't sign the coaches, ralph doesn't sign players, ralph doesn't coach the team. Ralph just owns the team. Do you blame the owner of McDonald's when they put pickles on your Big Mac and you asked for none OLBs in a 3-4 are basically pass rushing DEs. His size would hurt him even more when not protected by Williams and dareus Neither ray croc or Ralph have given pickles in a good number of years. The curse lives.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Once Byrd departs, we have a major rebuild job in the secondary. Even with Byrd, it's quite subpar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I have a tough time understanding why we our need for a QB is greater than the need for a TE. Could you explain that one? Its probably why I had TE as 2nd and QB as 5th. Try reading it again. I had TE twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I think an upgrade in Stickum would help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuntheDamnBall Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Its probably why I had TE as 2nd and QB as 5th. Try reading it again. I had TE twice. Aha. I miss my old glasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I don't understand the owner talk. Did ralph fumble the ball twice. Did he miss a block. Did he miss open receivers? Did he blow his coverage on a receiver for a TD? Should he be flipping the bird to the other team. Ralph doesn't sign the coaches, ralph doesn't sign players, ralph doesn't coach the team. Ralph just owns the team. Do you blame the owner of McDonald's when they put pickles on your Big Mac and you asked for none OLBs in a 3-4 are basically pass rushing DEs. His size would hurt him even more when not protected by Williams and dareus No, Ralph didn't do any of those things. But as the owner, he makes all the really key organizational decisions. And he hasn't made good ones for some time or is perhaps no longer capable of doing so. Plus it's his money that's being spent. If you think Wilson's no longer consulted on such things as who should be coach or GM, you're mistaken, no matter what Brandon is supposedly tapped to do. It's pretty much that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 No, Ralph didn't do any of those things. But as the owner, he makes all the really key organizational decisions. And he hasn't made good ones for some time or is perhaps no longer capable of doing so. Plus it's his money that's being spent. If you think Wilson's no longer consulted on such things as who should be coach or GM, you're mistaken, no matter what Brandon is supposedly tapped to do. It's pretty much that simple. Im trying to figure out where the mistake is with this particular GM and Coach........ Regardless of the loss today....I dont think these have been bad decisions....u gotta give these guys a chance to do their thing longer then 1 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Im trying to figure out where the mistake is with this particular GM and Coach........ Regardless of the loss today....I dont think these have been bad decisions....u gotta give these guys a chance to do their thing longer then 1 season. I agree. How many players have we seen blossom and produce after being labeled busts in these last 3 seasons? We're closer than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 What games has EJ won? Maybe the Jets game. I remain with taking QB in round 1. Panthers and ravens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBUffalo Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Dream draft: LB Khalil Mack or Anthony Barr in the first. Either take TE Ebron in the second or, more likely, trade up into the first to pick him. Brandon Coleman or Donte Moncrief in the third. That'd be a dream first three rounds next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Where do we upgrade? Ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinzChampionshipz Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 We need a new owner. Until then, nothing else matters. Save your ticket money. Is Ralph Wilson fumbling balls out there? Where do we upgrade? Ownership Same question to you as I asked above... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Neither ray croc or Ralph have given pickles in a good number of years. The curse lives.. Lol Not in any order RT- Pears is ok but we need an upgrade. LG- biggest weakness in our roster IMHO TE- we need to upgrade chandler he's solid but he doesn't do anything exceptionally well. LB- we need a LB that can play inside and out and can get after the passer. Khalil Mack is this guy. I think he and Kiko would be a great tandem. CB- i don't know what is wrong with Gilmore but we need insurance incase Gilmore doesn't get better. We also need quality depth. WR- I don't know if the problem is Manuel just not hitting open receivers or what but we need more production from them. QB- never hurts to have good QBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Another thing about this team is that the offense doesn't seem to have an identity. I don't know if continuity is what it needs, or a new OC. They just don't seem to have plays that are their strength. It feels like a different offense every game. Obviously, EJM was out (and is a rookie), so I think the offense will have progressed by next season. The WR's haven't distinguished themselves much. Occasional plays that show some promise, but no consistency. Too many rookies/2nd-year guys at WR this season. It's gotta be a MACHINE, with all the parts working like gears, and a QB that knows where/when the right option will be. That takes lots of repetition (like, years worth), and a QB that has full authority. EJM hasn't played enough to earn that yet. I guess the running game is consistent (but FJ could hit the wall any day now). I hope they draft another RB, this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridge Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Because while players like GIlmore have been up and down......we already know after less then a season that Manuel is a bust even though he has played pretty well for a rookie. Speak for yourself. Don't throw "we" around, figurative or otherwise, when you're talking out of your asssss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I've been thinking about this for a few weeks as I watch College Football wind down and players emerge as first round picks. But especially after this game, I wonder what needs to be done to fix this wreck. The problem is, I have no idea. Honestly think about the positions we have: D-Line - We have 2 Pro-Bowl players and 2 above average guys on that line. Dareus is no chump, but we can't stop the run. CB - Byrd is a pro-bowlers, we aren't getting beat deep, Gilmore is considered a top tier CB, and McKelvin has maybe had 2 bad games. Williams and Robey have done great too. LB - DROY in Kiko, Hughes has 6 sacks, but maybe better here.... O-Line - Haven't given up many sacks and we are top 5 in rushing WR - Just drafted 2 guys with potential as our 2 and 3 WR. Stevie could go either way, but not a glaring issue TE - Yup, need one. QB - That's for debate, but I will say this. Besides the Pittsburgh game, what games has he lost? Left the Pats game with the lead, beat the Panthers, Lost the Steelers game, Crushed the Jets, wasn't great today, but was in FG with Stevie to win it and Chandler was close. You can knock him all you want, but I don't see where an upgrade gets us more than one additional win. I don't count the injury against him because that happens. So seriously, one more LB, a TE, and maybe a WR? I just don't see how that's really going to be the difference. It's more inconsistent play and a loser mentality that finds a way to show itself. I think that's what makes this more frustrating because I have no idea what to do next This is why I have hope that we're not that far away. The record may be the same as the rest of these years. But, the last few years, I was like - where do you even start??................Now we have talent all over the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Guard, tight-end, wide-receiver, linebacker, corner Whether in the draft, or via free-agency, the Bills need upgrades at all these positions. Guard is our most glaring weakness... Great, pass catching tight-ends don't grow on trees...but the Bills need to upgrade here...Chandler is just too inconsistent and not good after the catch...much better in the red-zone, IMO. There might not be a "next Gronkowski" out there, but the Bills need to find someone in that mold. I realize, Kiko is he be-all to end-all for many, but he is still a rookie, and has looked pretty bad in a few games this season (Atlanta, Cleveland...), re-sign Lawson is a must, and add another free-agent...you can never have enough good linebackers. Like linebackers, you can never have enough quality depth at corner...the Bills learned that this season. Gilmore back-slid this season, after a pretty solid rookie season...missing most of the season with injury hasn't helped. Personally, I think people forget too easily, how many great DB's over the years struggled their first couple of seasons... the toughest position to play, behind only QB, in the game...new rules which make it nearly impossible to defend the pass are only making it harder. Edited December 2, 2013 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Im trying to figure out where the mistake is with this particular GM and Coach........ Regardless of the loss today....I dont think these have been bad decisions....u gotta give these guys a chance to do their thing longer then 1 season. Don't look too hard John...it has, unfortunately, become part of Bills fan credibility to be able to say that you were the first one to say a certain player sucked...until they start winning more games, this is the way...people can only react to the last thing they saw... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 TE, OG, LB, WR in that order. Do people seriously think that the 95 year old Wilson is pulling the strings at this point in his life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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