YoloinOhio Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) Why do you keep dodging the question? It's easy to complain. Kolb was going to be the backup. He got hurt. Who was available that you wanted the Bills to sign? Or did you want them to give up a draft pick for a backup? If Aaron Rodgers goes down, the Pack are screwed. Same with the Ravens. Same with the Saints. Etc, etc. Remember the Colts from 2011? Screwed. Only teams with running QBs like RG3, Vick, Kaepernick,Pryor, etc. have a starting-caliber QB behind them. Oh, and the Colts have Hasselbeck because they won't make that mistake twice. Am sure Irsay told the new GM he better have a good backup for Luck or he'll end up like Polian. Edited October 7, 2013 by YoloInTheBlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 (edited) I'm actually kinda excited to see what Lewis can bring to the table. He's still young and has never really gotten a shot due to always being on teams with 1st round QB's ahead of him. At the very LEAST, he'll be more composed than Tuel (which is half the battle). Edited October 7, 2013 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Fact, most every team in this league is screwed if there starter gets hurt. Especially in the middle of the game. How many good backup QBs are there in the league? Not true. Almost every team in the league has a better backup than we did last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Bottom line: they just f*cked up royally signing Kevin Kolb. Every indicator possible told them it was a very bad idea but they did it anyway. Should have kept Tarvaris Jackson. Should have kept Levitre. They are the could've and should've team of the NFL because they are the team that never achieves. As for the apologists.....every year a few teams go from very bad one year to very good the next....and often stay there for a while. The Bills are never in that group because of their careless approach. It's no mistake. There is no sense of urgency. When Jauron got here they actuallly STARTED to rebuild in year 2. When Gailey got here they gave away the first season to "evaluate" the roster. Both of those regimes were undone by unnecessarily bad starts. Marrone inherited a team with good enough talent to be a playoff team with the addition of a decent QB and a solid draft. Simple as that. Instead they lost Levitre, got in a pissing match with their All Pro safety shed some other useful talent and now, despite what appears to be a solid draft they have put their new, unproven head coach in a position where he is liable to start out his NFL career with a losing record for no reason. Perfectly stated. Wish I could be as optimistic as some of you but too many things just don't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Perfectly stated. Wish I could be as optimistic as some of you but too many things just don't add up. I don't understand that statement. Is there a conspiracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Not true. Almost every team in the league has a better backup than we did last week. agreed. just because any team hurts with an injury to their starter doesnt mean having tuel coming off the bench is on par with the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The years change, the faces change and the names change. Beyond that, its the same old, same old. The Bills are a B rate organization. There could really be no arguments. This QB situation is jsut the latest in a series of jokes. Tuel is great, he's the back up, no he is not the back up, we are getting someone outside the organization, no we are not, maybe we are but the PS player is good. Botton line is these guys running the show are amateurs. There is simply no way to argue the point. Anyone who runs a business of any significants have people who are paid to determine what statements are released so that the paying customer is given information that is not detrimental to the organization. These folks are just plain clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Why do you keep dodging the question? It's easy to complain. Kolb was going to be the backup. He got hurt. Who was available that you wanted the Bills to sign? Or did you want them to give up a draft pick for a backup? If Aaron Rodgers goes down, the Pack are screwed. Same with the Ravens. Same with the Saints. Etc, etc. The fact that you keep asking these stupid questions shows you are missing the point. The reason they are in the spot they are currently in with no decent option available to sign is because of decisions made months ago that are now coming back to bite them in the ass. They aren't expected to have a superstar backup QB. But they are the ones that put themselves in the situation to have played an undrafted rookie who was borderline terrible in college in an actual NFL game. The fact that the Bills aren't choosing a good **** sandwich to eat isn't the problem. The problem is that they put themselves in a situation to eat a **** sandwich in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 To all of those that thought Tuel 's out come of the game was just his inability to do well here is what was said about that out come by the coach ... “This is what I told Jeff. What happened to him was tough. On a short week he didn’t get any reps during that week because we had to get EJ all the reps possible with the defense being different from the one we faced the week before. We really put Jeff out there in the toughest situation we can. A rookie free agent quarterback, who’s had some success in the preseason and taken some snaps, but mentally for me I think that was a tough situation to put him in. Jeff told me he was ready to go, which is what you want from a player.” The biggest part of this statement would be the part of Tuel not getting ANY , NONE , 0 reps during the week that is like telling a carpenter to build a building , give him the plans & take away his hammer & saw how would that work out ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Why wasn't he the back-up? Maybe they thought EJ would not get injured until Legursky, Hopkins and Gilmore could come back, otherwise they would have had to cut someone healthy or even Lewis if he was on the official roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 To all of those that thought Tuel 's out come of the game was just his inability to do well here is what was said about that out come by the coach ... “This is what I told Jeff. What happened to him was tough. On a short week he didn’t get any reps during that week because we had to get EJ all the reps possible with the defense being different from the one we faced the week before. We really put Jeff out there in the toughest situation we can. A rookie free agent quarterback, who’s had some success in the preseason and taken some snaps, but mentally for me I think that was a tough situation to put him in. Jeff told me he was ready to go, which is what you want from a player.” The biggest part of this statement would be the part of Tuel not getting ANY , NONE , 0 reps during the week that is like telling a carpenter to build a building , give him the plans & take away his hammer & saw how would that work out ?? depends - ive watched a few of those crazy cooking shows, and it seems with a lot more experience you tend to be able to better deal with the sudden adversity tossed at you. that isnt a knock on tuel, but he is young. he doesnt just lack nfl experience, but was missing out on high level college experience that a guy like EJ has. its ok to say he isnt our guy right now. he should be thrilled to be on the roster in the first place, and continue to be on it going forward. finding someone better equipped to deal with RIGHT NOW isnt somehow crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The problem was, they misjudged two things badly, Kolb's injury history, and Tuel's ability to play in the NFL right now if disaster struck. They signed Tarvaris Jackson, knowing they would be looking for a veteran backup which they found in Kolb, and were going to draft a rookie high which they did with EJ. They also knew they would sign an UDFA or two to have four-five arms in camp and signed Tuel right away, whom the scouts liked. Then a couple things happened. They were very impressed by EJ and knew they wanted to make him the starter quick, and they liked what they saw in Tuel as a project, so they released Jackson to get EJ more starter reps in a two man race versus a three man race as a starter. And they wanted Tuel to get more reps as a project. But again they completely ignored Kolb's history. Then, predictably, Kolb got hurt, and, unfortunately, EJ got hurt twice. Now they realize that Tuel is in WAY over his head so they are now scrambling. It was a big risk they took and they got burnt bad. They ignored Kolb, they got rid of Jackson too fast even though it made logical sense! and they WAY over-estimated Tuel's readiness. That's three bad judgments by the young front office and staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Lots of teams have good/decent backup QBs. Please note that Good/decent is a relative term for backup QBs The Packers had Aaron Rodgers as Farves backup, then Matt Flynn who passed for 500 yards or some crap when he played and then signed two big deals as a FA. Dallas has Kyle Orton as their backup and had Jon Kitna before him. The Titans went out and signed Fitz, whom we cut. Kolb was going to be our guy but honestly, I dont see why we didnt keep T Jax. He was cheap and fits the mobility mold we have in EJ. I dont want to see Tuel running any read option looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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