Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 No argument on that. I think EJ looks better when he's under center anyways. His footwork is better under center. In shotgun, he's lazy with his footwork. The running game is a lot more effective under center too-- plus, then you can do better play action, boot legs, etc. Seems silly to go 90% + snaps out of the shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The running game is a lot more effective under center too-- plus, then you can do better play action, boot legs, etc. Seems silly to go 90% + snaps out of the shotgun. It's this whole trying to go fast and read option offenses in the NFL. I don't understand why you can't do them under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 No argument on that. I think EJ looks better when he's under center anyways. His footwork is better under center. In shotgun, he's lazy with his footwork. EJ had his best game of the season against the Jets dropping back from under Center. I don't understand why Marrone and Hackett went away from that in the last two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Here is the All--22 for the Bills/Bucs. (I am worried something happened to 26CornerBlitz!!) http://www.wgr550.com/JW---All-22-Review---Bills-Bucs---Horror-film/17938266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Here is the All--22 for the Bills/Bucs. (I am worried something happened to 26CornerBlitz!!) http://www.wgr550.co...r-film/17938266 No surprise: all of the breakdowns highlighted here were 100% mental. This was an unfocused, uninspired team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Here is the All--22 for the Bills/Bucs. (I am worried something happened to 26CornerBlitz!!) http://www.wgr550.com/JW---All-22-Review---Bills-Bucs---Horror-film/17938266 I hate the spin cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I hate the spin cycle. Wot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wot? Manuel's go to move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Manuel's go to move. Thought you were critiquing the media spin. Agreed the reverse-spin's got to go with EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Wot? Watch the play where Revis hits Woods. EJ feels phantom pressure and does his spin move, while Glenn buries the rusher lol. EJ spun into at least 2 sacks that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Watch the play where Revis hits Woods. EJ feels phantom pressure and does his spin move, while Glenn buries the rusher lol. EJ spun into at least 2 sacks that way. Yeah, I'm all caught up now. I thought he was being snarky about the positive spin from the piece, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 No surprise: all of the breakdowns highlighted here were 100% mental. This was an unfocused, uninspired team. I'm watching the game again. Check out Rainey's 80-Yard TD Run. This play is a lot on Kyle Williams (blocked out of the play) and mostly on Alonso (taking the wrong gap and then missing the tackle) -- But watch Byrd and Gilmore. Neither guy has a clue what's going on, until Rainey is 25 yards downfield. They probably could have stopped the run for a 20-25 yard gain, but they were completely unfocused and not really paying attention. Everyone watching film from Sunday is coming up with the same opinion. The Bills simply didn't show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Here is the All--22 for the Bills/Bucs. (I am worried something happened to 26CornerBlitz!!) http://www.wgr550.co...r-film/17938266 No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 People are bitching about EJ's spin move.... You do realize that he has used that move to spin out of sacks on more then one occasion this year right? You cant love people in slices. Yes....he was feeling phantom pressure on some of those plays.....there was also a lot of time where he was getting pressure almost immediately....and other plays where receivers were not where they were supposed to be..... Bottom line....everyone made mistakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Upon Further Review: Bills at Buccaneers By Joe Buscaglia JoeB@wgr550.com (WGR 550) -- Warning: What you are about to read is not for the faint of heart. The Buffalo Bills went down to Tampa Bay and came back licking their wounds, with their most embarrassing loss of the season. The players will want to move on to next weekend as quickly as possible. But before they get started on their preparations for Jacksonville, first is a look back at the individual performances of every single Bills player that took a snap on offense or defense. Every week, with the help of the All-22 film available through NFL.com's Game Rewind package, WGR will provide the standouts, the duds and everything in between from the game that was. Previous Installments: Week 1 - New England 23, Buffalo 21 Week 2 - Buffalo 24, Carolina 23 Week 3 - New York Jets 27, Buffalo 20 Week 4 - Buffalo 23, Baltimore 20 Week 5 - Cleveland 37, Buffalo 24 Week 6 - Cincinnati 27, Buffalo 24 Week 7 - Buffalo 23 Miami 21 Week 8 - New Orleans 35, Buffalo 17 Week 9 - Kansas City 23, Buffalo 13 Week 10 - Pittsburgh 23, Buffalo 10 Week 11 - Buffalo 37, New York Jets 14 Week 12 - BYE Week 13 - Atlanta 34, Buffalo 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 You cant love people in slices. wow You can like certain things a player does and not others. This isn't about man-love, it's about winning football games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) @JeremyWGR Woods crossing. Goodwin past sticks. Chandler available late. Three options. Ball held = sack. https://vine.co/v/hQFqrzvXb3u @JeremyWGR What happened out there? Offense a mess! https://vine.co/v/hQFiE7VX2v0 first play - EJ was about to throw to receiver at the 40 yard marker when DT jumped with arms up to defend.. before EJ could recover our RT was beaten by the DE - trouble here was two receivers converging to the same passing lane, allowing DT to defend two options with one jump! - these are the patterns that usually end up with a deflected ball to the up man getting picked by deeper cover man, but they were both open. would have been a good gain if not for DT's head's up play second play - receiver at top was preparing to block down field for our fullback who tripped before getting out into the flat. not sure where their safety was, but that could have gone somewhere - on secend look, he was knocked over by inside rush of RDE, who ended up at EJ's legs - worse thing about this play was this was EJ's only option. don't know if it was drawn up this way, or receiver to EJ's right took play off Edited December 10, 2013 by BackInDaDay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 wow You can like certain things a player does and not others. This isn't about man-love, it's about winning football games. Thats right...and the next "Franchise QB" that everyone wants will have things he does that people love and that people hate..... Too bad you cant take a bunch of football players and take out the crap parts and just keep the good ones....right? But..in the real world you cant do that so you take the good with the bad and work on the bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 People are bitching about EJ's spin move.... You do realize that he has used that move to spin out of sacks on more then one occasion this year right? You cant love people in slices. Yes....he was feeling phantom pressure on some of those plays.....there was also a lot of time where he was getting pressure almost immediately....and other plays where receivers were not where they were supposed to be..... Bottom line....everyone made mistakes John from Hemet, the problem I see with the spin move is two fold: 1) Necessitates EJ turning his back to the field of play. If you watch the game's best "teflon QB" such Aaron Rogers or Drew Brees, or the hard-to-bring-down man-mountains like Big Ben, *they never take their eyes off the field of play*. They elude by ducking, timing a step forward or sideways, or drag defenders with them, but their eyes are always downfield. EJ has got to "shed the spin" and channel his athleticism into his primary mission, which is being the best Quarterback he can be. 2) When rotating, the body and knees/ankles aren't always in sync. Getting hit during a move like this can mean big injury. As far as "loving people in slices", it is too so possible to love some slices (aspects of a guy's game) and hate others. For example, we all loved that Fitz had some fire to him and really wanted to win. We all hated that he took his "gunslinger mentality" too far and would start forcing throws, making interceptions at the worst possible time. Similarly, if EJ doesn't grow out of it, we will love that he has the ability to escape, but hate that he pulls the ripcord too early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) John from Hemet, the problem I see with the spin move is two fold: 1) Necessitates EJ turning his back to the field of play. If you watch the game's best "teflon QB" such Aaron Rogers or Drew Brees, or the hard-to-bring-down man-mountains like Big Ben, *they never take their eyes off the field of play*. They elude by ducking, timing a step forward or sideways, or drag defenders with them, but their eyes are always downfield. EJ has got to "shed the spin" and channel his athleticism into his primary mission, which is being the best Quarterback he can be. 2) When rotating, the body and knees/ankles aren't always in sync. Getting hit during a move like this can mean big injury. As far as "loving people in slices", it is too so possible to love some slices (aspects of a guy's game) and hate others. For example, we all loved that Fitz had some fire to him and really wanted to win. We all hated that he took his "gunslinger mentality" too far and would start forcing throws, making interceptions at the worst possible time. Similarly, if EJ doesn't grow out of it, we will love that he has the ability to escape, but hate that he pulls the ripcord too early. The "Spin Cycle" move is not necessarily a bad thing. I've seen Tony Romo use it on multiple occasions to extend plays that culminate in positive gains. EJ should keep it in his arsenal and I hopefully with greater experience he will learn when to employ it and when not to. Edited December 11, 2013 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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