ricojes Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Give credit to Carolina's special team for knowing the rules. These situations are why you need a guy who can get it through the back of the end zone. I heard Stevie was on the field playing as a DB for that last play. I wonder if that is because we don't have enough DB's due to all the injuries or just because Stevie is good at tracking and high-pointing balls in the air. Really? Give credit to coach's for knowing the rules? It's a fairly common rule, it's done numerous times throughout the season. It was a bad squib kick, that's all. If you want to give them the ball at the 40, kick it out of bounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 So, I assume that means that in a similar situation teams should not squib. With 2 seconds left, it's an acceptable decision. I don't know the odds, but I think there's a better chance of scoring a TD on a return than on a 60+ yard hail mary. The main problem is it was a bad squib. Don't kick it directly at someone like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Really? Give credit to coach's for knowing the rules? It's a fairly common rule, it's done numerous times throughout the season. It was a bad squib kick, that's all. If you want to give them the ball at the 40, kick it out of bounds. yet often you see guys (especially on special teams where units shuffle in guys off the street some weeks) not get the play right in a big moment. pressure mounts and all of a sudden for the first time in your career you are a 300 lbs guy with the ball coming at you..... forcing him to field it clean and follow the right play in the situation is normally not a bad call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChevyVanMiller Posted September 17, 2013 Author Share Posted September 17, 2013 Give credit to Carolina's special team for knowing the rules. These situations are why you need a guy who can get it through the back of the end zone. I heard Stevie was on the field playing as a DB for that last play. I wonder if that is because we don't have enough DB's due to all the injuries or just because Stevie is good at tracking and high-pointing balls in the air. Easley was in, too. They went straight back to the goal line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You need a guy who can kick touchbacks regularly at all times. This is why I'm glad the Bills finally rid themselves of Lindell. But, no kicker hits them 100% of the time. The squib there was fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 So then it was the correct call based on 4.1.c Yes, its the equivalent of fair catching the kickoff, which also can be done but almost never is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 So is that rule in effect? I thought you can only take a knee in the endzone. As far as I know, on a kickoff, if you have the ball and you have no opposing team player contact you, the ball is live and you can drop and roll over on the floor if you like but the clock should still be ticking as the play is still "live"... I know you can't do that in madden unless you call a fair catch. There is another rule where a player can call himself down immediately if he has the ball. For example say Buffalo has 10 seconds left at the opponents 40 wanting to get in field goal range. EJ through a crossing pattern to SJ....he has nobody around him and catches the ball around the 37 yard line with 3 seconds remaining. He can call himself down there and call a time out. I am also sure there is an under 2 minute rule about such a play and how the clock should and shouldnt start. If they player recovers a squib kick and doesnt even attempt to move the ball he is conceeding being down so the clock does not start. Had the squib kick touched a player initially and bounced then the clock begins once he touches the ball. I heard Stevie was on the field playing as a DB for that last play. I wonder if that is because we don't have enough DB's due to all the injuries or just because Stevie is good at tracking and high-pointing balls in the air. All teams put WRs on the field playing DB on hail mary plays. As a defense you want players who can catch the ball and not tip it which is part of the reason DBs are DBs and not WRs.WRs are taught on how to play DB when there is need to defend agains a potential pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRH Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Anyone who thinks the clock doesn't run out on that play in Foxboro, raise your hand. Thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Anyone who thinks the clock doesn't run out on that play in Foxboro, raise your hand. Thought so. Right. Nobody here doesn't not believe it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Had Post Traumatic visions of another short kick with several seconds left in Nashville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnychemo Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Should have been an onside kick to go for the jugular. Actually that would have either killed the clock or given the ball back to Buffalo. Not a bad strategy IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Actually that would have either killed the clock or given the ball back to Buffalo. Not a bad strategy IMHO. minus the chance of a penalty putting them in fg range and getting an untimed down, for instance. a solid squib is the play there, even if it wasnt executed perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I think they were respecting Ginn, too. Better a non-returnable kick in that situation, knowing it left them one shot at the end zone. Why not kick it out the back of end zone and make Panthers go 80 yds as opposed to 60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Why not kick it out the back of end zone and make Panthers go 80 yds as opposed to 60? They couldn't trust Carpenter to do this. Hopkins they probably would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Give credit to Carolina's special team for knowing the rules. These situations are why you need a guy who can get it through the back of the end zone. I heard Stevie was on the field playing as a DB for that last play. I wonder if that is because we don't have enough DB's due to all the injuries or just because Stevie is good at tracking and high-pointing balls in the air. I remember Moulds being a DB on a hail mary pass as he was tall enough to bat the ball away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 they messed that up obviously squibbing to the other teams 45 not the idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 18, 2013 Share Posted September 18, 2013 Didn't understand this call either. Brought back memories of the Music City Forward Lateral to me. Why not just tell your kicker to kick the **** out of it? The further they start back, the further they got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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