Just Jack Posted June 4, 2013 Share Posted June 4, 2013 http://www.wga.org/content/default.aspx?id=4925 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Overall pretty decent list. They nailed the first two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Awesome list, and I'm not much for lists. I'd have put Cheers and All in the Family above Sopranos,but not by a lot. Taxi would likely be in my top 10; possibly top 15. Friends being in the top 25 is a crime. Lou Grant and Honeymooners are easily far better. Nonetheless, good list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Babylon 5 should be on top 50 list. It was ahead of its time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'll save everyone the trouble <insert show> sucks, I've never seen <insert show>. I can't believe they left<obscure show> off the list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NobesBLO13 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Overall pretty decent list. They nailed the first two. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) Got no real quibbles...though I would likely rank Breaking Bad a tad higher...especially in terms of writing. Kind of difficult in most cases to compare dramas and comedies, side by side, making no distinctions. Like all these things, it all comes down to personal tastes I suppose. Edited June 5, 2013 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fezmid Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 No way does Battlestar Gallactica deserve to be on that list. It started out good, but the "writers" had no plan and just made things up as they went (they even admitted that... In the middle of the series). That isn't good writing - that's sloppy, crappy writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dib Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I used to like it when Buffalo street names were used on Hill Street Blues. Twilight Zone used to mention Buffalo a lot also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 When I saw the thread, I thought 'if The West Wing isn't on it, it's a sham'.. #10: The West Wing “The people who get angry at us on one Wednesday night will be standing up and cheering the next Wednesday night,” Aaron Sorkin wrote in Written By before The West Wing premiered. Sorkin’s White House will forever be associated with the Clinton presidency, both because it debuted during the end of Bill Clinton’s two terms and addressed a certain Camelot magnetism that Clinton evoked (former Senate staffer Lawrence O’Donnell and former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers wrote and contributed to the show). Sorkin’s President Josiah Bartlet (Martin Sheen) was different from Clinton in significant ways, including the fact that he was a Catholic from New Hampshire. The world crises the show sampled were believable, while the fanciful beats came via the president’s staff, who comprised a winning band of hyper-smart, quick-witted but fallible planners and semanticists, harmonizing the sardonic tones of Sorkin’s dialogue like a gospel choir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I'll save everyone the trouble <insert show> sucks, I've never seen <insert show>. I can't believe they left<obscure show> off the list What topic couldn't that be applied to? Is there anything worth discussing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Good to see Deadwood getting some respect at 32. Outside of the Sopranos it's the best series HBO ever produced and I'm still pissed that they canceled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 (edited) What topic couldn't that be applied to? Is there anything worth discussing? Excellent point! I made a post earlier, then thought better of it, wondering how the hell "I Love Lucy" was the #12 best written show in television history? Really? I admit, I always hated that show, but I acknowledge that Lucy was a pioneer in many ways, and as it turns out, so was the head writer for the show...one of the very first females to hold such a big title in tv history. I can understand that it might be funny to many, but the writing, in my eyes is pretty formulaic..it almost defines that term. I can see it being somebodys' favorite show of all time, because it made them laugh their ass off...but the if writers are juding the shows on their writing merits, it seems like a bit of a dis-service to all tv writers. I can like a show ("Dexter" comes to mind) even if it is poorly written...but I can recognize the difference. When I saw the thread, I thought 'if The West Wing isn't on it, it's a sham'.. #10: The West Wing "The people who get angry at us on one Wednesday night will be standing up and cheering the next Wednesday night," Aaron Sorkin wrote in Written By before The West Wing premiered. Sorkin's White House will forever be associated with the Clinton presidency, both because it debuted during the end of Bill Clinton's two terms and addressed a certain Camelot magnetism that Clinton evoked (former Senate staffer Lawrence O'Donnell and former White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers wrote and contributed to the show). Sorkin's President Josiah Bartlet (Martin Sheen) was different from Clinton in significant ways, including the fact that he was a Catholic from New Hampshire. The world crises the show sampled were believable, while the fanciful beats came via the president's staff, who comprised a winning band of hyper-smart, quick-witted but fallible planners and semanticists, harmonizing the sardonic tones of Sorkin's dialogue like a gospel choir. Hey Chandler...do you watch "The Newsroom" on HBO, Sorkins' newest show? I think it is awful, but I have never seen the "West Wing". One of those shows I consider plunging in to...but then the "The Newsroom" was so disappointing, I hesitiate. How do they compare? Edited June 5, 2013 by Buftex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Why did they do 101? Did they not like ending the list with the 3-way tie at 98? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cugalabanza Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Good to see Deadwood getting some respect at 32. Outside of the Sopranos it's the best series HBO ever produced and I'm still pissed that they canceled it. Yes, Deadwood was great. Underappreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Excellent point! I made a post earlier, then thought better of it, wondering how the hell "I Love Lucy" was the #12 best written show in television history? Really? I admit, I always hated that show, but I acknowledge that Lucy was a pioneer in many ways, and as it turns out, so was the head writer for the show...one of the very first females to hold such a big title in tv history. I can understand that it might be funny to many, but the writing, in my eyes is pretty formulaic..it almost defines that term. Is it possible to be pioneering and formulaic at the same time? The writing may be formulaic looking through a 60-year historic prism, but they should be honored for being the first to employ that formula (which is obviously very successful, since it was copied so much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Is it possible to be pioneering and formulaic at the same time? The writing may be formulaic looking through a 60-year historic prism, but they should be honored for being the first to employ that formula (which is obviously very successful, since it was copied so much) Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 No love for the Big Bang Theory? Surprising omission... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 5, 2013 Author Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hey Chandler...do you watch "The Newsroom" on HBO, Sorkins' newest show? I think it is awful, but I have never seen the "West Wing". One of those shows I consider plunging in to...but then the "The Newsroom" was so disappointing, I hesitiate. How do they compare? No, I'm not Chandler, but I have watched West Wing. It's available on Netflix streaming if you want to compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Good to see Deadwood getting some respect at 32. Outside of the Sopranos it's the best series HBO ever produced and I'm still pissed that they canceled it. Deadwood's creator David Milch quit the show--HBO didn't want to cancel it. Milch wanted to focus on John from Cincinnati ..remember that show...with the guy who was maybe an angel/surfer. Come on, you remember right? The show about the guy? The angel guy? No way is Sopranos Number 1. You can't put out 4 season of complete dreck and expect to be Number 1. I always imagined those later season writer's meetings going like this: "Get out the list of people we haven't done some episodes about and let's create a character arc. Oh good, JAnice Soprano...and Bobby Bacalla and his kids. Let's make them center stage because god knows we don't want more Tony, Paulie, Christopher etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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