KollegeStudnet Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 This is a really good recap of the whole thing. Not sure how even a billionaire can squirm his way out of this one: http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/4/19/4241314/jimmy-haslam-the-fbi-the-158-pages-that-will-cost-him-the-browns I'm just shocked that nobody in sports news is talking about this...it really is somewhat of a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Wonder if they will reconsider doing a movie on the browns? Bring it back to Buffalo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 the sell a ton of diesel .....and he's done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share Posted May 8, 2013 (edited) "Several team officials are saying they believe it may be extremely difficult for Haslam to keep the Browns, because he may be ensnared by a myriad of lawsuits and legal actions that could drain his finances and prevent him from keeping the club." http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/22217956/nfl-team-officials-fear-federal-probe-could-drain-haslam-undermine-browns Edited May 8, 2013 by KollegeStudnet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 And the Rooneys dodge a bullet again. They just cut this guy a check to buy out his share. Now no IRS/FBI people at Steelers HQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share Posted May 29, 2013 Basically, Haslam has been denying his involvement. But, an employees surprise recording tells a different story. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/05/charges_filed_in_pilot_flying.html http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/29/two-pilot-flying-j-execs-plead-guilty-to-federal-charges/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 yeah. Sucks to be a Browns fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Every so far revealed has been someone saying Haslam knew about it but all been 2nd and 3rd hand. Would not be 1st time a subordinate said a boss approved something the boss knew nothing about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 I highly doubt he had any role in this. But he will still go down. Like when they brought down ken lay and Jeff skilling for Enron. the highest level execs are always targets, right or wrong. Really? The document says “the rebate fraud has occurred with the knowledge of Pilot’s current President Mark Hazelwood and Pilot’s Chief Executive Officer James A. “Jimmy” Haslam III, due to the fact that the rebate fraud-related activities have been discussed during sales meetings in Knoxville, Tenn., in which Hazelwood and Haslam have been present.” That comes from the original federal affidavit filed in court over a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Now five total have plead guilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Thanks for posting the update. Where will it stop? It sounds like Hazelwood is the last person between those who plead and Haslam himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 @ProFootballTalk Jimmy Haslam "very comfortable" in his position with Pilot Flying J investigation http://wp.me/p14QSB-9cGo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Cleveland Browns Owner Knew Pilot Flying J Was Cheating Customers: Report: http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2013/07/11/cleveland-browns-owner-knew-pilot-flying-j-was-cheating-customers-suit/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Wouldn't consider that a report. That's a lawsuit and they're speculating that he knew stuff. I still think he knew nothing, but will go down. Sorry, but you lost all credibility when you inferred that Lay and Skilling might not have known about Enron's crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 I highly doubt he had any role in this. But he will still go down. Like when they brought down ken lay and Jeff skilling for Enron. the highest level execs are always targets, right or wrong. Seriously? It's usually the top guys who walk and the underlings take the bullet. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Wouldn't consider that a report. That's a lawsuit and they're speculating that he knew stuff. I still think he knew nothing, but will go down. May I ask why you think he knew nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share Posted July 12, 2013 I'll be in Cleveland for training camp. I want to ask fans questions about their take on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 That means...they're already f'd. If the FBI shows up you are not innocent. That's certainly a stretch. The FBI shows up a lot of times when people are innocent. Federal Prosecutors also use a ton of tricks to like piling on additional charges and making life miserable to get people to plead. I think he's guilty as the evidence seems to be leaning that way, but faith in if the Feds say you're guilty then you're guilty is an over reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 @sn_nfl Jimmy Haslam's truck-stop company, Pilot Flying J, to repay trucking companies http://bit.ly/14aWRBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 @sn_nfl Jimmy Haslam's truck-stop company, Pilot Flying J, to repay trucking companies http://bit.ly/14aWRBF Admission of guilt. Top bunk, Jimmy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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