meazza Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share Posted April 10, 2013 Sounds suspiciously like: parents are "to raise their children in the spirit of the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism, to attend to their physical development and their instruction in and preparation for socially useful activity." Which, of course, comes to us courtesy of the 1968 Principles of Legislation on Marriage and the Family of the USSR and the Union Republics. You didn't hit that. Someone else made it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Sounds suspiciously like: parents are "to raise their children in the spirit of the Moral Code of the Builder of Communism, to attend to their physical development and their instruction in and preparation for socially useful activity." Which, of course, comes to us courtesy of the 1968 Principles of Legislation on Marriage and the Family of the USSR and the Union Republics. The concept being discussed goes back much further than 1968. His proposals for the treatment of poverty were based on these principles. Communities of about twelve hundred persons each should be settled on quantities of land from 1,000 to 1,500 acres (4 to 6 km2), all living in one large building in the form of a square, with public kitchen and mess-rooms. Each family should have its own private apartments and the entire care of the children till the age of three, after which they should be brought up by the community; their parents would have access to them at meals and all other proper times. He purposed to create a life of complete equality in regards to wages in which each person in the society (after the age of 15) would receive according to their needs. http://en.wikipedia....iki/Robert_Owen This idea is vital to socialism in any form. Children growing up in such a model or "new people" are untainted and will certainly see the value of putting the collective first. Except for some reason they don't. Every, single, f@#$ing time, they grow up to reject this notion and the experiment ends in abject failure. But this time it will be different. Edited April 10, 2013 by Jauronimo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 (edited) Gotta love the old school Utopians. Owen, by the way, is the same guy who suggested that were his model society to be enacted that pre-roasted fowl would fall out of the sky and onto the socialist man's dinner table. I'm not joking. Edited April 10, 2013 by TakeYouToTasker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The generation raised by the collective will have no need for possessions and the trappings of capitalism. These "new people" will embrace the collective mindset of their own accord...for about a generation and a half. How many times must this experiment be conducted? "I request clarification of the the term, the collective..........oh you mean the State" Well Mr. Jauronimo, the State has proven that it can raise your children better than you" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 "I request clarification of the the term, the collective..........oh you mean the State" Well Mr. Jauronimo, the State has proven that it can raise your children better than you" . One of the best Twilight Zones. Almost every episode was fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Do you have the right to smack the schit out of your own children when they annoy you, in public or not? Corporal punishment is legal, so long as it is not excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Corporal punishment is legal, so long as it is not excessive. "Excessive," however, being defined on a state-by-state basis by whoever works at whatever state agency is responsible for child welfare. I know a guy who's right now fighting charges of child abuse because his kid's teacher reported his kid had a bruise on his arm (that he got playing soccer, according to himself and multiple witnesses). I'm pretty sure "complete lack of corporal punishment" doesn't constitute "excessive"... but the state of Maryland apparently disagrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Each thesis shall create its own antithesis and from that shall come the new thesis.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Corporal punishment is legal, so long as it is not excessive. As it should be. Smacking them around in public sends the wrong message. If you've raised them right, all they need is "the look" and they'll know they'd better settle down because if they don't they'll pay dearly for it. I'm not talking about a beating but a strategic parenta maneuver. My mother, who is widely known as a saint, believed in capital corporal punishment. She'd say, "go lay over you bed while I look for the dog leash". 20 minutes later she'd arrive after looking all over for it and finding it where it was supposed to be. The 20 minutes of sweating it out was about 20 times worse than the actual spanking. Psychologically we all feared her wrath, somehow relating a grentle "lashing" with waterboarding or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Come In Peace Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 As it should be. Smacking them around in public sends the wrong message. If you've raised them right, all they need is "the look" and they'll know they'd better settle down because if they don't they'll pay dearly for it. I'm not talking about a beating but a strategic parenta maneuver. My mother, who is widely known as a saint, believed in capital corporal punishment. She'd say, "go lay over you bed while I look for the dog leash". 20 minutes later she'd arrive after looking all over for it and finding it where it was supposed to be. The 20 minutes of sweating it out was about 20 times worse than the actual spanking. Psychologically we all feared her wrath, somehow relating a grentle "lashing" with waterboarding or the like. You were afraid of a dog leash? Wimp. Try an extension cord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 You were afraid of a dog leash? Wimp. Try an extension cord. Uh, the gravity was probably different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Jerry Sandusky just read this article..... HE APPROVED Are you sure? Some on here think Sandusky is just misunderstood. Maybe he speaks Farsi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 As it should be. Smacking them around in public sends the wrong message. If you've raised them right, all they need is "the look" and they'll know they'd better settle down because if they don't they'll pay dearly for it. I'm not talking about a beating but a strategic parenta maneuver. My mother, who is widely known as a saint, believed in capital corporal punishment. She'd say, "go lay over you bed while I look for the dog leash". 20 minutes later she'd arrive after looking all over for it and finding it where it was supposed to be. The 20 minutes of sweating it out was about 20 times worse than the actual spanking. Psychologically we all feared her wrath, somehow relating a grentle "lashing" with waterboarding or the like. Making you wait 20 minutes for a whipping? That's brilliant...and kinda twisted. And explains so much. I always subscribed to the idea that the difference between "corporal punishment" and "abuse" is the difference between "psychological reinforcement" and "physical pain". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 As it should be. Smacking them around in public sends the wrong message. If you've raised them right, all they need is "the look" and they'll know they'd better settle down because if they don't they'll pay dearly for it. I'm not talking about a beating but a strategic parenta maneuver. My mother, who is widely known as a saint, believed in capital corporal punishment. She'd say, "go lay over you bed while I look for the dog leash". 20 minutes later she'd arrive after looking all over for it and finding it where it was supposed to be. The 20 minutes of sweating it out was about 20 times worse than the actual spanking. Psychologically we all feared her wrath, somehow relating a grentle "lashing" with waterboarding or the like. The dog leash sounds brutal...my Mom and Dad used to use the back of the hair brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The dog leash sounds brutal...my Mom and Dad used to use the back of the hair brush. I grew up with a lot of kids that went through that ****. My parents never hit us (other than a spanking when we were young) but seeing I had friends whose parents did it was always in the back of your mind. We KNEW they were in charge and I'm not sure the kids of today feel their parents are in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Harris-Perry throws in the veritable kitchen sink of arguments, a little of caring for the children, her own experience as a Tulane professor, her upbringing, slavery, Native Americans, Newtown, and, er, reproductive rights. Then the state can decide who can and can't have children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 I grew up with a lot of kids that went through that ****. My parents never hit us (other than a spanking when we were young) but seeing I had friends whose parents did it was always in the back of your mind. We KNEW they were in charge and I'm not sure the kids of today feel their parents are in charge. You hit the nail on the head. I'm sure it's been said before but when I was in school and got in trouble, being sent to the principal's office was bad...but fearing the call to my parents and the hellish hour or so until my father came home from work was enough to warrant a sedative. I'm currently blessed to have three good kids who understand that the teachers and administrators are to be respected. Today, however, kids consider it a badge of honor to mock teachers and disregard authority and when they are "punished" (not even physically) the parents of these hoodlums show up on the schoolhouse steps supporting their children and indicting the school. Times sure have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The dog leash sounds brutal...my Mom and Dad used to use the back of the hair brush. The back of a hairbrush? That's for pooseys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Melissa Harris Perry is a c-. And if I ever saw her, Id call her a c-. Right after I kicked her in the c-. !@#$ her and all who think like her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The back of a hairbrush? That's for pooseys. My father used his belt. The spankings used to be "pants on" until I had the "brilliant" idea to pad my ass by putting on every single pair of underwear I owned. It took my father about 3 seconds to realize what was going on, and the strappings proceeded to become bare-ass after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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