Bills of Boston Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Their defense was on the field all day due to lack of offensive success. Same type of thinking why the Pats are always good at run defense... they are consistently up 14 points and other teams throw every down to catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Horton seems to be a good aggressive DC. IF Wisenhunt is able to bring Horton and his staff here with him, that makes the Wisenhunt pick substantially better but I am not sure at all that would be the case. There are a lot of different possibilities and scenarios. Horton may want to stay in AZ. The Cards may not let him out of his contract. Horton may be pissed at the Cards for not selecting him as their HC (if that happens) and want to leave, forcing their hand. Then he would be a top DC choice to any team including the Bills (I imagine part of the reason the Cards are giving him a second HC interview is to convince him they love him and want him to stay regardless). I wouldn't be totally against a Horton hire for HC although I really want someone with HC experience. But the idea of Wisenhunt and Horton is somewhat appealing. Wisenhunt without Horton (unless he brings in a very good DC does little for me right now, although I'm not enamored with hardly any of them). Horton may not be retained by the next coaching staff (If its going to be reid like rumored, sounds like reid already has put together his staff). The Bills could also give him the "Assistant HC" title along with DC, that would be a promotion for Horton and I beleive would get him out of Arizona unless their new coach is willing to do the same. I do agree, Whiz/Horton DC is much better then Whiz/? @ DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Horton may not be retained by the next coaching staff (If its going to be reid like rumored, sounds like reid already has put together his staff). I think you're wrong here. The whole issue with the end of Reid's tenure in Philly was because he could never replace the late Jimmy Johnson, his brilliant DC. They had a revolving door at that job in the last few years. I think it's more likely that Arizona wants to convince Horton to stay on, either as head coach or as Reid's DC. However if Arizona's intention is to hire Reid, I believe they'll let Horton accept a head coaching position with another team. Reid as head coach with Horton as his DC would be a great scenario for Arizona, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsrhody Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Ray Horton as Head Coach, Norv Turner as Offensive Coordinator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 A black coach with dreads? The winners in Lovejoy won't be happy about this. Honestly, I love his defenses in Arizona but it's too risky to trust a 1st time head coach at this point for the Bills. IF we were the Steelers, it'd be one thing. It sucks because we might miss out on a great one, but the Bills need a guy who has been a head coach before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2013/01/02/horton-says-hell-interview-with-bills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 the Bills need a guy who has been a head coach before. No they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 A black coach with dreads? The winners in Lovejoy won't be happy about this. Honestly, I love his defenses in Arizona but it's too risky to trust a 1st time head coach at this point for the Bills. IF we were the Steelers, it'd be one thing. It sucks because we might miss out on a great one, but the Bills need a guy who has been a head coach before. i especially worry about that when hed be overhauling the defense to a new scheme (again). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynBills Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Says he already has an offensive staff in place if hired. Curious to know who is on that staff. Could be a major selling point for him if he has experienced people on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The more I hear and read about Horton the more I like this guy. I would not mind at all if the Bills hired him as head coach. Somebody is going to. He's very highly regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heels20X6 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 My feeling is that the Bills won't hire Horton. He will then go on to coach another team to considerable success (see Frazier, Leslie, Fox, John, and a whole other cast of qualified coordinators the Bills FO didn't like) and then we'll complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wow, Horton gave a great interview today after meeting with the Cardinals: http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/kentsomers/2013/01/02/ray-horton-on-his-interview-with-the-arizona-cardinals/ My favorite points: Q. Do you worry about being pigeon-holed as a defensive coach? A. “I don’t. I think I’m a coach of men. I talk about a plan to build a team. I don’t talk about ‘hey, I can build this offense or this defense and good luck with the rest of the team.’ Whether you’re an offensive coach, you’ve got to have a defensive guy who can do something on that side. It all blends together. I think that’s a zero issue.” Q. When they ask you about staff structure, do you say I’m still going to run the defense? A. “Nope. I delegate. I think a guy that controls everything, controls nothing. I would be there to assist and help if needed. But I trust the coaches I hire to be experts at their positions. Now am I going to get 11, 15, 22 experts who are going to be experts at every position? Probably not. But the two coordinators are going to be experts. Really, in my power structure, that’s how it works. Your head coach and two coordinators have to be expert at their position. It’s a trickle-down effect of getting this guy to do this and hey, coach this this way and do that. There’s a hierarchy of critical positions. The quality control is not the most critical position on the staff.” ---------------- Horton just moved up a notch on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 The more I hear and read about Horton the more I like this guy. I would not mind at all if the Bills hired him as head coach. Somebody is going to. He's very highly regarded. Seems like a poor mans Lovie Smith.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wow, Horton gave a great interview today after meeting with the Cardinals: http://www.azcentral...zona-cardinals/ My favorite points: Q. Do you worry about being pigeon-holed as a defensive coach? A. “I don’t. I think I’m a coach of men. I talk about a plan to build a team. I don’t talk about ‘hey, I can build this offense or this defense and good luck with the rest of the team.’ Whether you’re an offensive coach, you’ve got to have a defensive guy who can do something on that side. It all blends together. I think that’s a zero issue.” Q. When they ask you about staff structure, do you say I’m still going to run the defense? A. “Nope. I delegate. I think a guy that controls everything, controls nothing. I would be there to assist and help if needed. But I trust the coaches I hire to be experts at their positions. Now am I going to get 11, 15, 22 experts who are going to be experts at every position? Probably not. But the two coordinators are going to be experts. Really, in my power structure, that’s how it works. Your head coach and two coordinators have to be expert at their position. It’s a trickle-down effect of getting this guy to do this and hey, coach this this way and do that. There’s a hierarchy of critical positions. The quality control is not the most critical position on the staff.” ---------------- Horton just moved up a notch on my list. I agree. Fantastic interview. This guy certainly gives every impression of being ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wow, Horton gave a great interview today after meeting with the Cardinals: http://www.azcentral...zona-cardinals/ My favorite points: Q. Do you worry about being pigeon-holed as a defensive coach? A. “I don’t. I think I’m a coach of men. I talk about a plan to build a team. I don’t talk about ‘hey, I can build this offense or this defense and good luck with the rest of the team.’ Whether you’re an offensive coach, you’ve got to have a defensive guy who can do something on that side. It all blends together. I think that’s a zero issue.” Q. When they ask you about staff structure, do you say I’m still going to run the defense? A. “Nope. I delegate. I think a guy that controls everything, controls nothing. I would be there to assist and help if needed. But I trust the coaches I hire to be experts at their positions. Now am I going to get 11, 15, 22 experts who are going to be experts at every position? Probably not. But the two coordinators are going to be experts. Really, in my power structure, that’s how it works. Your head coach and two coordinators have to be expert at their position. It’s a trickle-down effect of getting this guy to do this and hey, coach this this way and do that. There’s a hierarchy of critical positions. The quality control is not the most critical position on the staff.” ---------------- Horton just moved up a notch on my list. Hahaha, I was just discussing the interview with some friends and I pulled those exact two questions out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Seems like a poor mans Lovie Smith.. How you can make that determination right now is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Wow, Horton gave a great interview today after meeting with the Cardinals: http://www.azcentral.com/insiders/kentsomers/2013/01/02/ray-horton-on-his-interview-with-the-arizona-cardinals/ My favorite points: Q. Do you worry about being pigeon-holed as a defensive coach? A. “I don’t. I think I’m a coach of men. I talk about a plan to build a team. I don’t talk about ‘hey, I can build this offense or this defense and good luck with the rest of the team.’ Whether you’re an offensive coach, you’ve got to have a defensive guy who can do something on that side. It all blends together. I think that’s a zero issue.” Q. When they ask you about staff structure, do you say I’m still going to run the defense? A. “Nope. I delegate. I think a guy that controls everything, controls nothing. I would be there to assist and help if needed. But I trust the coaches I hire to be experts at their positions. Now am I going to get 11, 15, 22 experts who are going to be experts at every position? Probably not. But the two coordinators are going to be experts. Really, in my power structure, that’s how it works. Your head coach and two coordinators have to be expert at their position. It’s a trickle-down effect of getting this guy to do this and hey, coach this this way and do that. There’s a hierarchy of critical positions. The quality control is not the most critical position on the staff.” ---------------- Horton just moved up a notch on my list. theres a reason hes well respected around the league. i dont know if hes the right choice at the right time or not, but theres definitely a reason hes respected. and by proxy theres a reason these pittsburgh guys that went out to arizona (hell, and gailey here in buffalo) get the reputations they do. that team picks good people and helps progress them into better people. not all will work, but.... something to keep in mind before totally killing them for not fully succeeding in arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Another "great interview" guy. Been there before, haven't we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Little Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Another "great interview" guy. Been there before, haven't we? Would you rather have a "bad interview" guy? Horton has a good track record as a coach. He wouldn't just be hired because of some quotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTO Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 (edited) How you can make that determination right now is beyond me. To me, both are almost the same. Difference is Lovie has a record as a coach. Horton does not. Edited January 2, 2013 by JTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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