Kelly the Dog Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 They could call it Bass Pro Field at Signature Peace Bridge Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I don't mind a roof as long as it's opened for every game, no matter the weather. It does make sense financially to have a retractable roof for use other than Bills games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 A domed stadium would allow Buffalo to bid on hosting a Superbowl, which generates alot of money for the city. No it wouldn't. We don't have anywhere near the infrastructure needed to pull off an event of that magnitude. As for the "move pilot field" idea, I don't get that, either. Moving it five blocks isn't going to appreciably change anything. I understand the desire to have the Bills back in the city, but realistically, it will only provide a minimal economic benefit eight days per year, and that, at the expense of the benefit that it is providing in OP. And at the expense of part of the tailgating atmosphere that people seem to love. If it moves anywhere, it should be to the Falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecgetty Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 A domed stadium would allow Buffalo to bid on hosting a Superbowl, which generates alot of money for the city. I literally spit water our of my nose while reading this one. You've got a better chance of the Kardasian clan moving here and setting up shop than hosting a Super Bowl. Maybe Willis will buy his retirement home here too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 This is all just speculation. Anytime you talk about spending $200 mil for a "renovation" the natural question is; how much for a new one? If $200 mil just putting a new dress on an old h*, how much for the new one??? Downtown is little more than a business center. Shopping left 30 years ago. That's the way most cities have gone. Not many people go there, so what's the big attraction as a location for a Stadium? NFTA has the "good" waterfront tied up forever, and the "bad" is mostly Superfund sites that would cost big money to develop. Speaking of Superfund sites, we have the biggest at Niagara Falls. Really not easily developed. So afer all the politicians speak, we're likely back to renovating Rich and trying to find the funding to get it done, or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 No it wouldn't. We don't have anywhere near the infrastructure needed to pull off an event of that magnitude. As for the "move pilot field" idea, I don't get that, either. Moving it five blocks isn't going to appreciably change anything. I understand the desire to have the Bills back in the city, but realistically, it will only provide a minimal economic benefit eight days per year, and that, at the expense of the benefit that it is providing in OP. And at the expense of part of the tailgating atmosphere that people seem to love. If it moves anywhere, it should be to the Falls. A Super Bowl in Buffalo would be a joke. What would people do? Hang out on Chippawa? Remember the Frozen Four in Buffalo? How about the World Juniors? I just went to the Frozen Four in Tampa and THAT is how you put together a major event! Buffalo/Erie County can't get out of its own way. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 A Super Bowl in Buffalo would be a joke. What would people do? Hang out on Chippawa? Remember the Frozen Four in Buffalo? How about the World Juniors? I just went to the Frozen Four in Tampa and THAT is how you put together a major event! Buffalo/Erie County can't get out of its own way. PTR I didn't live here when we had the Frozen Four, but I'm sure we have the infrastructure for that. We seem to do fine with early rounds of NCAA basketball, and the city did just fine with WJC, too. We can pull off quite a lot here, but a Super Bowl is way, way out of the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I'll probably get crucified for saying this, but... I think anyone would have to be out of their f'ing minds to support having a taxpayer funded stadium built. Don't get me wrong. I love the Bills and hope and pray that they'll always be successful and stay in Buffalo. However; this talk about a new stadium just seems to me that peoples priorities are way out of whack up there. I could be incorrect on my assumptions, since I haven't lived in the region for over 20 years, but I thought Western New York was really struggling financially. Is this not the case? Don't you think hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayers dollars could be spent on something better?? For those that say that an idea like this would revitalize downtown Buffalo... I just don't see how 8 home games could make this happen. Go Bills. Indianapolis profits from hosting the Super Bowl......3 billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) For me it's about staying in Buffalo, if a stadium downtown means the Bills stay in Buffalo then I don't care what it looks like or how it works. Building a new stadium for the Bills would be a long term commitment to the team, and I am all for that. A new stadium will never be built in Orchard Park IMO. I certainly favor the bad weather aspect of an open stadium (not that it's ever helped the Bills), but a Dallas like stadium would be fine by me. Cover the fans, leave the field open. Edited April 11, 2012 by Turbosrrgood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 They could call it Bass Pro Field at Signature Peace Bridge Stadium. In the Adelphia Corporate Park? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delete This Account Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 A domed stadium would allow Buffalo to bid on hosting a Superbowl, which generates alot of money for the city. unlikely the Bills could land a Super Bowl due to lack of adequate hotel room space in town, which makes it a big non-starter for the NFL. one option would be to put up some people in Niagara Falls, Ontario, but that's an awkward fit at best, given time for travel and border concerns. in related news to stadium proposal: -- still no new Peace Bridge. -- downtown casino plans "might" be moving forward ... maybe, possibly. -- whatever happened to talk of the folks across the border and their plans to build a NASCAR track. -- the Adelphia Tower. jw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Building a brand new stadium would be a very poor decision for taxpayers on two fronts: 1. The new stadium would cost an obscene amount of taxpayer money for very little impact on the local economy. When you start talking about things like labor productivity and output and overall economics, stadiums are a dog with generations of taxpayers subsidizing it. 2. Orchard Park would now have the equivalent of a closed military base to redevelop, requiring additional taxpayer support to help with it. It's better for everybody to upgrade, not replace RWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) A Super Bowl in Buffalo would be a joke. What would people do? Hang out on Chippawa? Remember the Frozen Four in Buffalo? How about the World Juniors? I just went to the Frozen Four in Tampa and THAT is how you put together a major event! Buffalo/Erie County can't get out of its own way. PTR What was wrong with the Frozen Four in Buffalo? From everything I heard it was considered a success. The World Juniors went off fine. Why didn't you think that they did because some spoiled whiney B word from California said that the weather was cold & that there was not much to do here. The NCAA first rounds for the basketball tournament has been held here numerous times & always gets the highest grades for any 1st round tournament site. Yeah let Tampa host the 1st 2 rounds like they did a few years ago & have noone show up for the noon tipoff games. That looks really good. So you had a good time in Tampa, good for you. Edited April 11, 2012 by Gordio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 (edited) I didn't live here when we had the Frozen Four, but I'm sure we have the infrastructure for that. We seem to do fine with early rounds of NCAA basketball, and the city did just fine with WJC, too. We can pull off quite a lot here, but a Super Bowl is way, way out of the question. There is "doing just fine" and then there's blowing folks away. All Buffalo did for the Frozen Four was hang some banners. Out-of-towners were left on their own to figure out where to go and what to do, and all they saw when they came to (what was then) HSBC Arena was bleak urban desolation. Tampa had a huge carnival outside their arena, events with teams and players, nice hotels right by the arena and sick nightlife in Ybor City a short trolley ride away. Until the Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau can figure out a plan to create some fun and excitement around an event they should just save themselves the embarrassment. Emerson Etem was speaking the truth that no one wanted to face. Why didn't you think that they did because some spoiled whiney B word from California said that the weather was cold & that there was not much to do here. Because the whiny B word has a point, but we don't want to hear it. PTR Edited April 11, 2012 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 There is "doing just fine" and then there's blowing folks away. All Buffalo did for the Frozen Four was hang some banners. Out-of-towners were left on their own to figure out where to go and what to do, and all they saw when they came to (what was then) HSBC Arena was bleak urban desolation. Tampa had a huge carnival outside their arena, events with teams and players, nice hotels right by the arena and sick nightlife in Ybor City a short trolley ride away. Until the Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau can figure out a plan to create some fun and excitement around an event they should just save themselves the embarrassment. Emerson Etem was speaking the truth that no one wanted to face. Because the whiny B word has a point, but we don't want to hear it. PTR No he doesn't have a point & it was an ignorant statement to make & I could see why people got offended by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills(70) Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 I would gladly vote yes for a bond issuance on a 1 to 1.5 billion dollar facility in downtown Buffalo. And it's about time the leadership in the area started thinking outside of the box on this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 There is "doing just fine" and then there's blowing folks away. All Buffalo did for the Frozen Four was hang some banners. Out-of-towners were left on their own to figure out where to go and what to do, and all they saw when they came to (what was then) HSBC Arena was bleak urban desolation. Tampa had a huge carnival outside their arena, events with teams and players, nice hotels right by the arena and sick nightlife in Ybor City a short trolley ride away. Until the Buffalo Convention and Visitors Bureau can figure out a plan to create some fun and excitement around an event they should just save themselves the embarrassment. Emerson Etem was speaking the truth that no one wanted to face. Because the whiny B word has a point, but we don't want to hear it. PTR Emerson Etem was speaking the truth about teenagers, for whom there really is nothing downtown. (Here and in a lot of other downtowns, but I don't know about Tampa. How did downtown Saskatoon do with the teenaged set this year?) The grownups, on the other hand, had a blast, and the Convention & Visitors Bureau, which has been significantly overhauled in recent years, did a TERRIFIC job. Greeters at every hotel, all day and well into the evenings, with diretions, brochures, ideas, and everything. It was a massive effort and a successful one. I'm gathering that you weren't here for WJC, just as I wasn't for the Frozen Four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyMark Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Indianapolis profits from hosting the Super Bowl......3 billion I have to assume this is a joke.....even if listed in 'Millions'......Indy acknowledges a loss by hosting the superbowl. This is irrefutable. Now, did 'Millions' (tens if not hundreds) of dollars exchange hands during the course of pre-, during-, and post- superbowl activities? No doubt......yet it cost Indy and well, really, the taxpayers of central Indiana a whole lot to host the event. But anyone who even remotely considers Indy as profiting from the superbowl is really out of touch with Economics 101. All things considered....prestige, notoriety, movers/shakers being impressed, direct/indirect gains, blah, blah, blah translates to really no profit for the typical person..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Hmmm… stuck at the end of a story on a townhouse development in the Fruit Belt. The project would cost close to $1 billion. Improvements to the Ralph might run $200 million, tops. I just don't see where the money would come from and also the cost/benefit seems unfavorable. When you start talking about a billion $$$ in the Fruit Belt, all of a sudden the new stadium looks really reasonable. Yeah the Fruit Belt, the drive-by shooting capital of the US. Everyone wants to build there. Don't even talk stadium until you got the cash lined up, and I don't want my tax dollars used for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted April 11, 2012 Share Posted April 11, 2012 Actually thats incorrect. Its been written in several articles that hosting a super bowl, generally doesn't benefit the city. here's a quote from a proffesor who studied multiple super bowls. “The results are shocking,” Porter wrote in “Mega-Sports Events as Municipal Investments: A Critique of Impact Analysis,” a chapter in The Economics of Sport. “For each of the six events studied in three different locations, there is no measurable impact on spending associated with the event. The projected spending and spillover benefits of regional impact models never materialize.” I have heard similar things about hosting an Olympic Games, most of the time the host city is in debt for years to pay it off and are left with venues that are used very little afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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