D521646 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 So I watched th Senior Bowl game. Not a huge College Football guy, but since this draft is so important for the Bills (Heck they all are) I figured I'd DVR it and watch when the kiddies were in bed. Coples if he can play like he did in the gamne MUST be our pick. There was nothing he couldn't do. He can line up at LDE, RDE and NT if needed. Seconf place (using the bowl game as my only indicator) was Ingram. He was also a force, but Upshaw wasn't heard from much. I also like that kid Vinny Curry. Apparently, I am reading that most scouts leave before Thursday's practice as the game itself with its limits on schemes isn't a good gauge. Well, that may be so, but from what I saw Coples is the guy we should take. Thoughts, comments, opinions? Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 How about some links to these guys for those of us too lazy to loo them up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Dont make your decisions based on a Senior Bowl. None of our prospective DEs looked good yesterday. Between the rules that restrict the defense, and everyone playing it safe so theyre not injured before the draft, it isnt a good example of how they play. I turned it off at the half after it was obvious everyone was playing at about 3/4 speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yeah slow footed ,easily blocked Coples. That`s pick my pick. Ingram also didn`t impress me. But Curry did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert cohen Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Yeah slow footed ,easily blocked Coples. That`s pick my pick. Ingram also didn`t impress me. But Curry did. 110%.. read my thread on mayock / senior bowl.. love this kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 1. Indianopolis: Andrew Luck QB Stanford 2.St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil OT USC 3.Minnesota Vikings: Michael Brockers DT LSU 4.Cleveland Browns: Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 5.Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Adams OT Ohio State 6. Washington Redskins: Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 7.Jacksonville Jaguars: Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State 8.Carolina Panthers: Quinton Coples DE UNC 9.Miami Dolphins:Riley Reiff OT Iowa 10.Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU 11.Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 12. Seattle Seahawks:Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama 13.Arizona Cardinals: Cordy Glenn OG Georgia 14.Dallas Cowboys:Nick Perry DE/OLB USC 15.Philadelphia Eagles:Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 16.New York Jets:Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 17.Cincinatti Bengals:David DeCastro OG Stanford 18.San Diego Chargers:Kendall Wright WR Baylor 19.Chicago Bears:Mohammed Sanu WR Rutgers 20.Tenessee Titans:Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 21.Cincinatti Bengals:Courtney Upshaw Alabama 22.Cleveland Browns:Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina 23.Detroit Lions:Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 24.Pittsburgh Steelers:Andrew Datko OT Florida State 25.Denver Broncos Trent Richardson RB Alabama 26.Houston Texans:Devon Still DT Penn State 27.New England Patriots:Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama 28.Green Bay Packers:Cam Johnson DE Virginia 29.Baltimore Ravens:Peter Konz C Wisconsin 30.San Francisco 49ers:Stephen Gilmore CB South Carolina 31.New England Patriots:Markelle Martin FS Oklahoma State 32.New York Giants:David Wilson RB Virginia Tech Feedback welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Once upon a time the Bills took a kid in the first round that had three sacks in the Senior Bowl that turned out to be a bust. His name is Erik Flowers. I wouldn't put too much stock in a one game performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D521646 Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU - Really? You really think we need a CB before a pass rusher? Maybe, but I'm of the school of thought that says your secondary is as good as your front 4 .. I say the Bills lose big if we don't take a DE/OLB at number 10. Tim- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU - Really? You really think we need a CB before a pass rusher? Maybe, but I'm of the school of thought that says your secondary is as good as your front 4 .. I say the Bills lose big if we don't take a DE/OLB at number 10. Tim- Well I think we're moving back to the 4-3 (officially) and I'm having a hardtime talking myself into any of the DE's besides Coples there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 How about some links to these guys for those of us too lazy to loo them up? There's plenty of links it's called GOOGLE !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabtot Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Watched Coples on film. I thought he was OK on the outside but felt that when he lined up on the inside he got handled. I still believe that a quality O-Linemen will be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Coples lacks explosion. I don't like him at all. I'll take Mercilus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU - Really? You really think we need a CB before a pass rusher? Maybe, but I'm of the school of thought that says your secondary is as good as your front 4 .. I say the Bills lose big if we don't take a DE/OLB at number 10. Tim- I don't think Claiborne will be available at the Bills' pick, but if he is, I could not fault the Bills for taking him over ANY of the DE/OLBs in this draft. Claiborne is one of the very few elite players in this draft. While CB isn't as big of a need as a pass rush or LT, it still is a need. I am not sure that Upshaw or Ingram will be difference makers in the NFL, but I think that Claiborne will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU - Really? You really think we need a CB before a pass rusher? Maybe, but I'm of the school of thought that says your secondary is as good as your front 4 .. I say the Bills lose big if we don't take a DE/OLB at number 10. Tim- We won't be doomed if we have 2 great CB's. 1 Alfonzo Dennard CB Nebraska 2 Ronnell Lewis OLB43 Oklahoma 3 Kendall Reyes DE34 Connecticut 4 Michael Egnew TE Missouri 4 George Iloka FS Boise State 5 Nicolas Jean-Baptiste DT34 Baylor 6 DeVier Posey WRF Ohio State 6 Russell Wilson QB Wisconsin 7 Greg Childs WRF Arkansas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert cohen Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Well I think we're moving back to the 4-3 (officially) and I'm having a hardtime talking myself into any of the DE's besides Coples there. ingram or upshaw will be just fine at DE in 4-3 if we cant land coples... secondary will be easier to fix if we have pass rush.. already have 2nd round pick we used last yr in williams and rogers will be i our 4 db packages and is gonna be our KR.. we bring back one of are current guys in mcgee mcelvin who is still under contract and still has potential if we have a rush and floyrence.. cant stand mcgee, always hurt and well past his prime and floyrence gets flagged 2 much.. we can easily sign a vet for something reasonable... giants have proved that a good pass rush trumps all... we havent had a good edge rusher since we lost schobel and this is by far our biggest need.. and even schobel wasnt a star.. we need a top notch DE and all 3 of those guys fits the bill.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Saw Coples play in season, looked slow and disinterested. Would rather take Chandler Jones in 3rd or 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 I'd like to see a highlight reel containing all of Upshaws sacks in his career. I couldn't find any (doubt it exists). I love the kids size, leadership and intensity but I can't seem to find any highlights in which he actually beats and OL with a move to get a sack. Every time I watched a Bama game, all of his sacks came from rushing in unblocked. Not to say he doesn't have good moves, but I just haven't seem many. If we draft him, I'll be happy, but until I see him get a couple sacks by beating an OL, I have to be little skeptical that he will the answer to our lack of pass rush. Coples looked better in the senior bowl than he did all year. Pass. Vinny curry looked good for sure. His big knock is stamina. Almost looks like a situational pass rusher at this point. If he's out there on non passing downs he might blow his energy before he gets a chance to rush the qb. I'd be very happy of he drafted Ingram. Love everything about the guy. If we were to draft a pass rusher with our first pick, at this point I'd say Ingram would be my first choice. That could change as I see more, but I think he's gonna be a very good player. If we took Morris Claiborne, rest assured that we got a very good player that will help our team for years. Not the biggest need, but if he's on the board when we pick, he'd most likely be the bpa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 (edited) probably the biggest red flag on coples is that people have already questioned his work ethic and he has been perceived by some as a bit lazy during his college years. no thanks to that. Edited January 29, 2012 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 1. Indianopolis: Andrew Luck QB Stanford 2.St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil OT USC 3.Minnesota Vikings: Michael Brockers DT LSU 4.Cleveland Browns: Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 5.Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Adams OT Ohio State 6. Washington Redskins: Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 7.Jacksonville Jaguars: Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State 8.Carolina Panthers: Quinton Coples DE UNC 9.Miami Dolphins:Riley Reiff OT Iowa 10.Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU 11.Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 12. Seattle Seahawks:Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama 13.Arizona Cardinals: Cordy Glenn OG Georgia 14.Dallas Cowboys:Nick Perry DE/OLB USC 15.Philadelphia Eagles:Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 16.New York Jets:Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 17.Cincinatti Bengals:David DeCastro OG Stanford 18.San Diego Chargers:Kendall Wright WR Baylor 19.Chicago Bears:Mohammed Sanu WR Rutgers 20.Tenessee Titans:Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 21.Cincinatti Bengals:Courtney Upshaw Alabama 22.Cleveland Browns:Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina 23.Detroit Lions:Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 24.Pittsburgh Steelers:Andrew Datko OT Florida State 25.Denver Broncos Trent Richardson RB Alabama 26.Houston Texans:Devon Still DT Penn State 27.New England Patriots:Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama 28.Green Bay Packers:Cam Johnson DE Virginia 29.Baltimore Ravens:Peter Konz C Wisconsin 30.San Francisco 49ers:Stephen Gilmore CB South Carolina 31.New England Patriots:Markelle Martin FS Oklahoma State 32.New York Giants:David Wilson RB Virginia Tech Feedback welcome. CB? on this team with its gaping holes in the middle? crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 1. Indianopolis: Andrew Luck QB Stanford 2.St. Louis Rams: Matt Kalil OT USC 3.Minnesota Vikings: Michael Brockers DT LSU 4.Cleveland Browns: Robert Griffin III QB Baylor 5.Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Mike Adams OT Ohio State 6. Washington Redskins: Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M 7.Jacksonville Jaguars: Justin Blackmon WR Oklahoma State 8.Carolina Panthers: Quinton Coples DE UNC 9.Miami Dolphins:Riley Reiff OT Iowa 10.Buffalo Bills: Morris Claiborne CB LSU 11.Kansas City Chiefs Jonathan Martin OT Stanford 12. Seattle Seahawks:Janoris Jenkins CB North Alabama 13.Arizona Cardinals: Cordy Glenn OG Georgia 14.Dallas Cowboys:Nick Perry DE/OLB USC 15.Philadelphia Eagles:Luke Kuechly ILB Boston College 16.New York Jets:Michael Floyd WR Notre Dame 17.Cincinatti Bengals:David DeCastro OG Stanford 18.San Diego Chargers:Kendall Wright WR Baylor 19.Chicago Bears:Mohammed Sanu WR Rutgers 20.Tenessee Titans:Dre Kirkpatrick CB Alabama 21.Cincinatti Bengals:Courtney Upshaw Alabama 22.Cleveland Browns:Alshon Jeffery WR South Carolina 23.Detroit Lions:Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 24.Pittsburgh Steelers:Andrew Datko OT Florida State 25.Denver Broncos Trent Richardson RB Alabama 26.Houston Texans:Devon Still DT Penn State 27.New England Patriots:Dont'a Hightower LB Alabama 28.Green Bay Packers:Cam Johnson DE Virginia 29.Baltimore Ravens:Peter Konz C Wisconsin 30.San Francisco 49ers:Stephen Gilmore CB South Carolina 31.New England Patriots:Markelle Martin FS Oklahoma State 32.New York Giants:David Wilson RB Virginia Tech Feedback welcome. having Brockers selected at #3 is insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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