The Poojer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What a tragic end to this.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 My aunt knows Joe Pa personally and she told me earlier this year that without football Joe Pa would die. Its his whole life. Despite what happened there this year, he was still the face of college football for many years. This is sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 nah....as big of a f*** up as was paterno's actions or lack thereof....this is just sad...my heart broke when paterno got taken down because of sandusky and my heart will be sad when he dies... Â Karma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 It's sad. I'm reminded of Bear Bryant...retires and four weeks later, he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 Wow...i didn't realize that. Â It's sad. I'm reminded of Bear Bryant...retires and four weeks later, he's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike In Illinois Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Piece of trivia for you: The last team both Paterno and Bear Bryant beat? The University of Illinois. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Reports are that Paterno has passed away; nothing confirming on ESPN or CBS Sports' website yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34497800?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001 Â JoePa dead at 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Karma is a bit harsh... come on Stojan... Â RIP JoePa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 http://eye-on-collegefootball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/34497800?ttag=gen10_on_all_fb_na_txt_0001 Â JoePa dead at 85 Â Thanks JoeF -- CBS Sports now has it front and center on its website. Nothing on ESPN yet. Â If this is true, RIP and a sad, sad ending to JoePa's life. Â This could be the reverse Jim Valvano. I've said for years that it only matters what you do in the last year of your life, because that's how you'll be remembered. Valvano by many accounts was not that good of a person until his cancer diagnosis. Â Paterno made a whopper of a mistake, and unfortunately, that's how he will be remembered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 What a tragic end to this.... Tragic is the correct word to describe this. Â RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Thanks JoeF -- CBS Sports now has it front and center on its website. Nothing on ESPN yet. Â If this is true, RIP and a sad, sad ending to JoePa's life. Â This could be the reverse Jim Valvano. I've said for years that it only matters what you do in the last year of your life, because that's how you'll be remembered. Valvano by many accounts was not that good of a person until his cancer diagnosis. Â Paterno made a whopper of a mistake, and unfortunately, that's how he will be remembered. Â Sad but true Horsemen. Valvano was a habitual NCAA rule breaker...but now the JimmyV fund has raised $115M for cancer research and Roy Williams and Mike Krzyzewski, who hated competing against a cheater work on behalf of his legacy. Â JoePa turned the other way to protect a friend, a program and a legacy he built -- but it was horribly wrong and its his last act...you are only as good as your last act unfortunately. Somehow however tonight for those of us of faith in God like JoePa--I think God has added to heaven's football staff...and JoePa has been forgiven.. Edited January 22, 2012 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Thanks JoeF -- CBS Sports now has it front and center on its website. Nothing on ESPN yet. Â If this is true, RIP and a sad, sad ending to JoePa's life. Â This could be the reverse Jim Valvano. I've said for years that it only matters what you do in the last year of your life, because that's how you'll be remembered. Valvano by many accounts was not that good of a person until his cancer diagnosis. Â Paterno made a whopper of a mistake, and unfortunately, that's how he will be remembered. I really hope moving forward we get truth with what happened but I suspect everyone just found a spot to point fingers without anyone to refute it. What happened in those closed doors meetings, is purely word vs word and now one party is silenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I really hope moving forward we get truth with what happened but I suspect everyone just found a spot to point fingers without anyone to refute it. What happened in those closed doors meetings, is purely word vs word and now one party is silenced. I do not imagine anyone will be able to point fingers at JoePa and continue a career on the path that will be successful. Only those already at rock bottom will be able to use him as a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) He turned his back on children who needed help just so his beloved "program" can go on uninterupted. Â Â !@#$ him. Edited January 22, 2012 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 family is saying he's not dead.....as of 8.57 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Some reports now saying the report of death is premature... Â Crazy crap when the media races to report a death... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I do not imagine anyone will be able to point fingers at JoePa and continue a career on the path that will be successful. Only those already at rock bottom will be able to use him as a scapegoat. Â You mean like sandusky, mcqueery, and all the psu higher ups? Â "I told Joe everything" "Joe told us nothing" Â And he's the weak link in the chain without being able to share his side of what he heard, and reported. Never able to truly share his vision of the events, motivations, or actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) A college ball player gets as much as a parking ticket and the coach knows about within SECONDS. But somehow, Paterno had just a passing knowledge of what was going on? Â Bull ****. Â I hope hes in a lot of pain right now. He deserves to be.And when he meets God in a few days or hours, hes going to have to answer to Him. Not us. Edited January 22, 2012 by RkFast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Wow. I guess death really does wash away all your sins. I thought the guy up the street was a great dude. Then he got busted with kiddie porn & I decided he was a scumbag. But he got killed in a car accident so I've decided again that he's a great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 ESPN says he's hanging in there ... stay strong Joe! Â http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7487597/spokesman-says-joe-paterno-condition-serious-further-complications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Wow. I guess death really does wash away all your sins. I thought the guy up the street was a great dude. Then he got busted with kiddie porn & I decided he was a scumbag. But he got killed in a car accident so I've decided again that he's a great guy. Joe Pa did many great things too and those should not unnoticed. We still don't know the entire story with Sandusky and we may never know the whole story. I know Joe Pa had a great influence on many young men that played for him and he gave most of his salary back to the university and lived in the same ranch house for his entire time coaching because he felt education was more important than having things. You can vilify if you want and I won't blame you. If the allegations are true it is sick what happened, but I won't ignore what Joe Pa did that was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Without a reason to live he has no reason to live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Without a reason to live he has no reason to live  With all due respect to Mrs JoePa, it's pretty clear what is/was his one true love.  This whole thing is just awful. I can understand the sentiment that he failed to act when faced with information about the abuse. There is just no excuse for that. But on the other hand, being a proud Pennsylvania native I've known about and followed JoePa and Penn St my entire life. My father graduated from there (different campus) and I was recruited by Penn St as a junior in high school for a spot on their track team. (I can't even tell you guys what a great feeling it was to have a program of that standard show interest in me as an athlete...it was really an honor.)  It's really a crappy way to feel about the whole thing, but that pales in comparison to what alumni of the school feel, not to mention those who were victims of that evil fuk Sandusky. I'm honestly having a hard time processing this entire situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Religious or not, people of good intelligence and high character will be able to judge Coach Paterno on the entirety of his life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Are you all literally so blinded by your love of football that you actually care about this man? HE KNEW CHILDREN WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. !@#$ HIM AND MAY HE BURN IN HELL. If he wasnt a !@#$ing coach of a game no one would defend him. So pathetic. Burn in hell "JoPa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Perhaps football was too important to him. Hard to say how he will be judged in the future but I suspect not kindly. He allowed his love of the game and PSU to cloud his judgment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajzepp Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Are you all literally so blinded by your love of football that you actually care about this man? HE KNEW CHILDREN WERE BEING RAPED AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. !@#$ HIM AND MAY HE BURN IN HELL. If he wasnt a !@#$ing coach of a game no one would defend him. So pathetic. Burn in hell "JoPa"  Part of me honestly agrees with you completely....I think it would be different if JoePa was in the role of Sandusky. You can argue the point that JoePa's failure to act was equally as bad, and it would be a really solid argument especially since we're talking about the sexual abuse of kids. But since we have a target to put ALL of our hatred on, it leaves some of us feeling both sad for JoePa AND also disgusted by the events that took place and his role in them. I don't know if that makes any sense what I said there, cause it's 8am and I'm coming off an all-nighter, but I'm trying my best lol  Perhaps football was too important to him. Hard to say how he will be judged in the future but I suspect not kindly. He allowed his love of the game and PSU to cloud his judgment.  I agree...he definitely did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Joe Pa did many great things too and those should not unnoticed. We still don't know the entire story with Sandusky and we may never know the whole story. I know Joe Pa had a great influence on many young men that played for him and he gave most of his salary back to the university and lived in the same ranch house for his entire time coaching because he felt education was more important than having things. You can vilify if you want and I won't blame you. If the allegations are true it is sick what happened, but I won't ignore what Joe Pa did that was good. I'll put it this way. I can't see inside that guy's soul and tell you it's content. I can tell you this, anyone who is a geate person, as he is made out to be, wouldn't have handled this situation as he did. Â You can argue that he's human and thus flawed, or he was stuck in a tough spot as to whether to protect his friend, or that he's not culpable because he passed the buck, but at the end of the day the best case you can hope to make for him is that he's not a complete scumbag. And maybe he's not. I don't know all the ins and outs of what happened, but I do know that great men who care so much about the !@#$ing children wouldn't have done what he did. Â And personally, I always found it a little creepy the way he talked about molding boys into men. I've known other coaches and military men who have taken pride in this, and I myself have managed teenage guys and taught them responsibility, but it's something about the way this guy talked about it that always made my skin crawl. Â So he may not be a monster, but he's certainly no one to be admired or held up as an icon of anything positive. Â Sad but true Horsemen. Valvano was a habitual NCAA rule breaker...but now the JimmyV fund has raised $115M for cancer research and Roy Williams and Mike Krzyzewski, who hated competing against a cheater work on behalf of his legacy. Â JoePa turned the other way to protect a friend, a program and a legacy he built -- but it was horribly wrong and its his last act...you are only as good as your last act unfortunately. Somehow however tonight for those of us of faith in God like JoePa--I think God has added to heaven's football staff...and JoePa has been forgiven.. I just threw up in my mouth Edited January 22, 2012 by Rob's House Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 You've gotta give prayers to joe pas family right now. My grandma passed last year over a slightly extended time. Based on joepas interview last week, he's got the same voice that my grandma had. His time is close and it's tough on his family. With that said, it's a very sad situation. Legendary coach, seemingly a great person, but he just didnt do enough in a terrible situation. Men are born from moments of great conflict. Paterno didn't do enough. Definitely not as bad as that sh-- ginger asst. coach or Sandusky himself, but a terrible action to not act is pretty bad. He will have to live with his lack of action for eternity. His day of judgement is coming fast. Unfortunate that his family's legacy is soiled forever by an act to not act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I'll put it this way. I can't see inside that guy's soul and tell you it's content. I can tell you this, anyone who is a geate person, as he is made out to be, wouldn't have handled this situation as he did. Â Â Â This is pretty much where I am. Â I will forgive any person's mistakes to a point of neutrality, but the perpetual canonization of Paterno in that whackadoo football obsessed town is disturbing. Â I hope the man's family can find peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 rest in peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 it was just broadcast on wgal in harraisburg that joe pa has indeed died...this morning...announcement at 10:17 today...r.i.p. what a sad end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 RIP Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 ESPN confirmed JoePa has passed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/story/2012-01-21/former-penn-state-coach-joe-paterno-dead/52737230/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donald Duck Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 No matter how hard I try I just can't get upset about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 No matter how hard I try I just can't get upset about this. i understand. you don't have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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