truth on hold Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Never said there's a chance luck falls to bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm glad he won it over luck. Although I was impressed with luck rg3had a much better season. I actually thought Barkley also had a better season as well. I thought the luck hype machine was going to win it for him anyway and am glad it didn't. That being said there is still no way luck is not the number 1 pick. Also Barkley more than likely will be the second qb taken which may entice rg3 to actually continue on to law school. Think about what life will be like on that campus for him next year ala Matt leinhart. Luck just did it last year Bradford did as well. Im still thinking he comes out but would be less surprised than I was when luck decided to stay if he does that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigc14120 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Just remember Gary Beban, and all the other Heisman guys who never made it in the pro's Great honor, but doesn't mean anything in terms of NFL success. QB is not the highest need of this team, more D is the need, followed by a speed receiver or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 1st round? Try #1 overall. Luck didn't have as good a senior as junior year. With the rookie success of newton (fair or unfair thats who RGIII will be compared to) theres a legit case for this. Another factor working against luck is harbaughs success with 9ers. People will say Lucks jr year was due to harbaugh and he's less than spectacular otherwise I was referring to Bills fans, but regardless, you are in fantasyland if you think the Colts are taking him over Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We just gave Fitz a monster long-term deal. We're not drafting a 1st round QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We just gave Fitz a monster long-term deal. We're not drafting a 1st round QB. It's heavily backloaded. We can cut him in 2 years and it still would've been a reasonable amount of money for both parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 We just gave Fitz a monster long-term deal. We're not drafting a 1st round QB. Actually the Fitzpatrick deal is that of an average salary for a full time NFL starting QB. If the Bills lose the rest of their games then all bets are off regarding IF they take RG III if he were there at their pick. I'm a big supporter of Fitzpatrick, but he really needs to be solid these last group of games to squash any talk of drafting RG III with their first pick. Though chances are that even if the Bills did lose out, they still won't be in position to draft RG III. Which is ok since we are so desperate for a pass rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I'm glad he won it over luck. Although I was impressed with luck rg3had a much better season. I actually thought Barkley also had a better season as well. I thought the luck hype machine was going to win it for him anyway and am glad it didn't. That being said there is still no way luck is not the number 1 pick. Also Barkley more than likely will be the second qb taken which may entice rg3 to actually continue on to law school. Think about what life will be like on that campus for him next year ala Matt leinhart. Luck just did it last year Bradford did as well. Im still thinking he comes out but would be less surprised than I was when luck decided to stay if he does that. Yeah Luck is in no danger whatsoever of not going #1. For all the great things RG3 can do, he does not have the size to stand in the pocket like Luck. It's not a make or break detail, but being in Buffalo we have seen the downside of having 6'2 QB's versus QB's who are the height of most of their interior OL. It just gives the defense a better chance of effecting your passing from the pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Thought I read somewhere bills can get out of the fitz deal before start of next season end up paying him only $10 million total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) We just gave Fitz a monster long-term deal. We're not drafting a 1st round QB. It woiuld be unwise of the Bills to use that line of thinking. The deal they gave Fitzpatrick is not that big for a QB. It's Kyle Orton-like, and you didn't hear a lot of worry in Denver when they cut Orton. A huge deal for a QB is closer to TWICE what Fitz got. Edited December 11, 2011 by Dick Drawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Suck for RGIII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Thought I read somewhere bills can get out of the fitz deal before start of next season end up paying him only $10 million total. Yup - that was the upfront money this year. Everything else is pay as you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 1st round? Try #1 overall. Luck didn't have as good a senior as junior year. With the rookie success of newton (fair or unfair thats who RGIII will be compared to) theres a legit case for this. Another factor working against luck is harbaughs success with 9ers. People will say Lucks jr year was due to harbaugh and he's less than spectacular otherwise Are you effing kidding me? If the Colts don't pick Luck #1 overall there will be a riot in Indy. He is the best QB to come out in years. That being said, I would love to be able to get Barkley or RG III. If one of them is on the board and we go with another position, I am revoking my Bills citizenship. We need a true franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 It's heavily backloaded. We can cut him in 2 years and it still would've been a reasonable amount of money for both parties. It's actually pretty flat across the board for about 8-11 per year from all I've seen. 10m paid out this year, 30 and change for the first 3 years I believe (which leaves about 30 for the last 3). The friendly part from my understanding is we can pretty much walk away whenever we want and owe no new money and have no bonus amortization accelerated (cash to cap sucks year one through four when you have old bonuses eating up your dollars and everything new counting 100% but once were this deep it's actually a better way to manage as you don't have the dead money ever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 1323570866[/url]' post='2332537']We could only be so lucky. I think he really is the best passer of all the "running quarterbacks" or "dual threats" to come out in the last ten years. If we lose out, and Barkley, luck and rg3 all declare, there's a chance he could fall into the 6-8 range. Personally I would take him over Barkley but I think a lot of teams would go the other way. It will be interesting to see how far he rises during the draft process, ala cam newton last season. Any of the three and I'm giddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 Any of the three and my faith in human nature will have been restored. Almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 1323620137[/url]' post='2332681']Are you effing kidding me? If the Colts don't pick Luck #1 overall there will be a riot in Indy. He is the best QB to come out in years. That being said, I would love to be able to get Barkley or RG III. If one of them is on the board and we go with another position, I am revoking my Bills citizenship. We need a true franchise QB. Didnt you know, Fitz IS a true franchise qb. Look at his stats. Didn't you watch the first 3 games???? Don't you know he has SIX gw drives in 54 games?? The proof is in the pudding. -end sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 When you look at this Bills roster, QB is way down the list of needs. If we can't get Luck, look elsewhere for your pick. There are so many other needs. A defensive heavy draft would work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 When you look at this Bills roster, QB is way down the list of needs. If we can't get Luck, look elsewhere for your pick. There are so many other needs. A defensive heavy draft would work for me. When you look at the NFL, franchise quarterback can never be way down on your list of needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 I don't see Luck going to Indy because I don't see Indy keeping the #1 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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