Big Turk Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 It has always been said that a college option offense "would never work in the NFL" to the point that nobody dared even try and implement it. Now that Tebow is running it and has won 3 out of his 4 starts, what do people around the NFL think now? Is this going to open up a new can of worms and make teams look at the potential benefits of a mainly running offense again? Lower turnovers, possession of the football, and wearing the opposing defense down throughout the game as you grind out yards... Not saying that I agree with this type of football on an NFL level, but I bet this has some GMs shocked at the results so far and stunned that they have been able to win playing football this way. Or do they think its just a matter of time before teams figure out how to stop it and force them to pass. Just thought it would be interesting to see what others thought...could this cause some teams to take a look at returning to a football era gone by? I would imagine this would suit teams that have good defenses that can keep the game low scoring, although Denver has shown the ability to rack up points with this offense as they hung 38 on the Raiders a few weeks ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 just like the wildcat's success didnt last long neither with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 they may be forced to if the quality of QB's coming out of college continues to drop and the best ones don't conform to the "NFL QB" standards. The league has to adapt and stop forcing players into certain moulds and adjust to its players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Its not going to work if you have 0 threat of a passing game, as the Broncos do now. Line up 1 or 2 corners on a WR and put 9 in the box. Then see how well the running 55 times a game works. Also, the broncos haven't really beaten anyone of consequence. The chiefs and dolphins aren't good, and the raiders, like the Bills, have shown flashes of good play but have been inconsistent. The only time the broncos played a legit team (detroit), they got blown out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Who did the Broncos beat? How did they do against a REAL defense like Detroit? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 just like the wildcat's success didnt last long neither with this Isn't having Tebow for a quarterback kinda like running a fulltime wildcat formation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Southpaw Ricky Dobbs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronyAbounds Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 The Jets are going to suffocate Tebow. The Chiefs stink, as Buffalo showed, so completing two passes against the Jets ain't going to cut it. If Newton were as talentless as Tebow he never would have made it past opening day. Why does Tebow get cut so much slack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 The Jets are going to suffocate Tebow. The Chiefs stink, as Buffalo showed, so completing two passes against the Jets ain't going to cut it. If Newton were as talentless as Tebow he never would have made it past opening day. Why does Tebow get cut so much slack? I guess you haven't ordered your #15 Jesus jersey yet? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 just like the wildcat's success didnt last long neither with this I agree. The only reason it works is because people haven't really prepared for it. The Wildcat is simply a little changeup right now, and the option will be the same. That said, every team should have as much stuff in their playbook as possible so the other team must prepare for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Denver ran the ball 55 times against Kansas City and won. Houston ran the ball 44 times against Tampa Bay and won. Both Tampa Bay and Kansas City have fairly bad run defenses, but I think it shows a commitment to the run despite it being a "passing league" gives you a good shot at winning a football game by controlling the clock and punishing your opponent. It will be an interesting game to watch. The Jets have a middle of the pack rushing defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Large Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 It's an interesting combination of elements thats for sure- you have a big, mobile QB who has the guts and gumption to take the rock and go. He open up the running game in a sense because he fakes the run pretty well. Also, I do think that Tebow can be tutored into a servicable, maybe even highly competent passer in this league. This season, to me, is about trying to compete and win game using Tebow strengths, and not asking him to do to much passing until someone is really able to work with him. He'll likely never be a Brady, Manning, Rodgers, when he does set his feet and has tight throwing motion, he throws a decent ball. I think he continue to look more posied in te pocket from game to game.... the first game he looked like he had never played QB before.... But is he going to change the game? No- this is a passing league, and the rules habe been tweeked to encurage that, IMO. I see Tebow as a less good passing, more moral, better running version of Big Ben- and that aint a bad thing. I still think Elway squiges his pants over Luck Denver ran the ball 55 times against Kansas City and won. Houston ran the ball 44 times against Tampa Bay and won. Both Tampa Bay and Kansas City have fairly bad run defenses, but I think it shows a commitment to the run despite it being a "passing league" gives you a good shot at winning a football game by controlling the clock and punishing your opponent. It will be an interesting game to watch. The Jets have a middle of the pack rushing defense. yep- and it hinges ALOT on zero turnovers, limited penalties and few mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opfball91 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 We'll put the option offense against the Packers spread, by the end McCarthy should have already made the switch over they'll probably be getting whooped so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieScooby Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I hope Tebow runs over and through Darrelle Revis and breaks his shoulder. Tebow has the size and enough speed 4.7ish, to run by most defense lineman, and has enough power to run through any linebacker or safeties arm tackle. This offense will be effective so long that Tebow doesn't get hurt, and Tebow can make the most of his limited down field throws. The Broncos are a physical team now and will try to punch the Jets in the mouth. Tebow thrives in the physical matchups, since the Jets defense is built on pressure and blitzing the Broncos contrasting style will make it hard for guys like Aaron Maybin and Calvin Pace from hitting Tebow. Expect Tebow to be hitting those guys and that's why this makes for such an interesting matchup. I like the Broncos to "upset" the Jets 13-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 The newest thing, take a Tebow jersey and get it custom plated with "Jesus" on the back: http://www.inquisitr.com/159772/tim-tebow-custom-jesus-jersey/ I root for the guy and hope he has a long, successful NFL career. I'm also a Christian. Putting Jesus on the back of his jersey though seems a little much to me. There is so much weight placed upon this young man's shoulders because of what he stands for and believes in, but just like any other human being he will falter. Seems like another avenue they will bust his chops for if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 His game will be interesting as the weather changes. My instincts tell me that he will do well in the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EldaBillsFan Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 It will be scarey if they ever give him a consistant wr and te....because it freezes the lbs and safeties.....btw: vick did what tebow is doing back in his first years in atl..... if the first option wasn't there second option was vick run...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 16, 2011 Author Share Posted November 16, 2011 Who did the Broncos beat? How did they do against a REAL defense like Detroit? PTR Well, in all fairness, I believe that was before they put in a bunch of option plays for Tebow...I am pretty sure I remember reading that game is what basically made the coaching staff realize that he could not operate a conventional offense and if he was going to be their guy, they would have to design an offense around him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronc24 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Just wait until Tebow actually gets laid....all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) It has always been said that a college option offense "would never work in the NFL" to the point that nobody dared even try and implement it. Now that Tebow is running it and has won 3 out of his 4 starts, what do people around the NFL think now? Is this going to open up a new can of worms and make teams look at the potential benefits of a mainly running offense again? Lower turnovers, possession of the football, and wearing the opposing defense down throughout the game as you grind out yards... Not saying that I agree with this type of football on an NFL level, but I bet this has some GMs shocked at the results so far and stunned that they have been able to win playing football this way. Or do they think its just a matter of time before teams figure out how to stop it and force them to pass. Just thought it would be interesting to see what others thought...could this cause some teams to take a look at returning to a football era gone by? I would imagine this would suit teams that have good defenses that can keep the game low scoring, although Denver has shown the ability to rack up points with this offense as they hung 38 on the Raiders a few weeks ago... well.... if you think that 4 games has turned 50 years upside down, im guessing your (and frankly my own) history with the league doesnt date back as far as many around here. my humble opinion - the league moves in cycles. offenses got faster, spread the field out, forced teams into pass defense (nickle D is used more than base on most clubs). whats the next logical step for someone "ahead of the game?" You get big, and you run down their throats. teams invest more resources into nickle and dime corners, and with limited resources it means they cant spend on their third or fourth linebacker. you exploit that. tebow is not going to "change the game" unless he learns to be accurate really fast, but a team like carolina with Cam, and two good running backs, could make for an interesting dynamic if they really wanted to push the option running, with a downfield threat to throw. as someone referenced with mike vick in atlanta - except bigger, stronger, and perhaps a better arm. Edited November 16, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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