Nanker Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Tea Party = less government OWS = more government BIG differences. Tea Party = Desire to revisit ideals of the American Revolution OWS = Desire to revisit the French Revolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Chomsky as anarchist? I'd contend that there's no such thing as a liberal anarchist. All anarchists are, by definition, anti-government. I know of NO liberals that are anti-government. Anti-business, sure. But NOT anti-government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Chomsky as anarchist? I'd contend that there's no such thing as a liberal anarchist. All anarchists are, by definition, anti-government. I know of NO liberals that are anti-government. Anti-business, sure. But NOT anti-government. That rhetoric makes me laugh as much as the "Republicans hate the working man" stuff does. Neither side cares about business or the working man, as long as they can consolidate more power and prevent a third party from emerging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 That rhetoric makes me laugh as much as the "Republicans hate the working man" stuff does. Neither side cares about business or the working man, as long as they can consolidate more power and prevent a third party from emerging. Are we really having an argument at this point? i hate the Republicans as much or more than the Democrats. They abandoned my philosophical position DECADES ago. You can't be an anarchist and be pro-big-government. Maybe at one time, leftists could have been anarchists. Like 100+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 Are we really having an argument at this point? i hate the Republicans as much or more than the Democrats. They abandoned my philosophical position DECADES ago. You can't be an anarchist and be pro-big-government. Maybe at one time, leftists could have been anarchists. Like 100+ years ago. I think anarchists are in a category of their own. I am disputing that the left is anti-business. Some of their policies are, but they are not against business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 So do you guys know what you want, what you're protesting, or why you're even there in the first place, yet? Its only been 4 weeks, but no rush. Of course not. He went for the same reason most of the attendees go....because Phish isn't touring and it's the next best cool, hippie thing to do. From the pictures I've seen, the crowd is primarily college stoners and street bums who would be sleeping in the park anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 15, 2011 Share Posted October 15, 2011 (edited) Chomsky as anarchist? I'd contend that there's no such thing as a liberal anarchist. All anarchists are, by definition, anti-government. I know of NO liberals that are anti-government. Anti-business, sure. But NOT anti-government. Boggles the mind, doesn't it? Amazing self-delusion. Now, since the Berlin wall came down, he refers to himself as a libertarian socialist. The fun part is you don't have to look hard for Chomsky's lies, distortions, and, let's face it, delusions: the term libertarian socialism says it all. These people know that the "the state" has failed to implement the communist ideal, because it can't. So, rather than admitting they are wrong about the communist ideal, they are talking about having "people to be named later" implement the communist ideal. It's always failure of the implementation, never failure of the communist ideal itself. Just like blaming the Russians for being too backward to do it properly. Now, with European socialism failing, what will they call themselves? I already know: Libertarian Autonomists. Think I'm kidding? Look it up. Edited October 15, 2011 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/ Nazis, Communists, OWS Oh My! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 http://www.thegatewa...treet-movement/ Nazis, Communists, OWS Oh My! Hey, they may be morons, and, let's face it, Nazism and Communism are BOTH based on socialism, so why wouldn't they support OWS? And, at least these people have enough self respect to stand up and say who they are. At least they aren't !@#$ing about making up new names for themselves. At least they are honest about what they believe, and don't stray from it for the sake of political expediency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Hey, they may be morons, and, let's face it, Nazism and Communism are BOTH based on socialism, so why wouldn't they support OWS? And, at least these people have enough self respect to stand up and say who they are. At least they aren't !@#$ing about making up new names for themselves. At least they are honest about what they believe, and don't stray from it for the sake of political expediency. Thought you said this was all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/10/figures-nazi-party-throws-support-behind-occupy-wall-street-movement/ Nazis, Communists, OWS Oh My! Well, when you don't know what you're protesting, it's easy for everyone to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Of course not. He went for the same reason most of the attendees go....because Phish isn't touring and it's the next best cool, hippie thing to do. From the pictures I've seen, the crowd is primarily college stoners and street bums who would be sleeping in the park anyway. You'll love this guy. OWS at it's best. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSo-MEiMbac&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 You'll love this guy. OWS at it's best. youtube.com/watch?v=oSo-MEiMbac&feature=player_embedded Whatever he's smoking, I'd like some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Whatever he's smoking, I'd like some You want to be a blubbering baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 To me the whole OWS crowd comes off as a spoiled adolescent throwing a temper tantrum because Dad's work got a little dicey and he ended up taking a loss and now Jr. can only get a used Malibu instead of the new Camaro he deserves. His solution is to let mommy run the finances, even though she doesn't make ****, has a bad habit of spending money faster than Daddy can make it, and put Dad in an unwinnable situation in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 To me the whole OWS crowd comes off as a spoiled adolescent throwing a temper tantrum because Dad's work got a little dicey and he ended up taking a loss and now Jr. can only get a used Malibu instead of the new Camaro he deserves. His solution is to let mommy run the finances, even though she doesn't make ****, has a bad habit of spending money faster than Daddy can make it, and put Dad in an unwinnable situation in the first place. They need a dose of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 You'll love this guy. OWS at it's best. youtube.com/watch?v=oSo-MEiMbac&feature=player_embedded I've never been so pissed off that I couldn't reach through my computer screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 I've never been so pissed off that I couldn't reach through my computer screen. I didn't even play it, and I still want to strangle him, just for wearing that goofy-ass hat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Just checking. So then it's the TEA party you know nothing about. You seem like a smart guy; you should probably flip the station from Jon Stewart occasionally. Question for you: I hear a lot about the TEA party wanting government out of business, which is nice, but nothing about keeping the businesses out of government. Have you heard anything of that sort? Both problems are equally troubling to me. You're a law student now, right? You'll probably have to brief FIRST NATIONAL BANK OF BOSTON v. BELLOTTI, 435 U.S. 765 (1978) when you take a corporations class. I've long been a fan of the late Justice Rehnquist, partly because of his dissent in BELLOTTI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted October 16, 2011 Share Posted October 16, 2011 Thought you said this was all over. It was, and is. See, perhaps I'm being stupid here for betting on the Democrats to be smart for the first time in years, but, they began the process of killing it off when I said it was over. We'll see now that the commies and nazis have ponied up. I wouldn't count on the unions being down there anymore, that is, unless the Democratic party has lost ALL its discipline. Buddy, do you realize how tantalizingly close, for Republicans, this is to being pinned on the Democratic party? Believe me, this is exactly what the Republicans want. Look at the legacy of the 1968 protests = Republicans winning the next 5 out of 6 Presidential elections. The nonsense in 1968 = Nixon getting elected when he should have had no chance. If he hadn't acted so stupidly, Carter never would have had a chance. You may think this is nothing, but the people who vote? They don't like these OWS-type people, and never have. Again, I said/say it's over because I expect the Democrats not to F this up. We'll see, but the retardation is all over the internet now, even on the sites that lean left, which makes the potential for it to kill the Dems 10x as likely as in 1968. One disclaimer: Hey, you never know though: perhaps there is a Bob Dylan out there in the unwashed group of 50 people. All it takes is one good song to go viral.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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