grammer_police Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? I give Greg Bell all the credit in the world for being instrumental in helping us land Cornelius Bennett. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike In Illinois Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 If they're going to place of the 80's-era backs on the Wall I would rather see Joe Cribbs go up before Greg Bell. Joe was the offensive star of those Chuck Knox-led teams, IMO. Joe's stats. Greg's stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 quote name='K-9' timestamp='1315618849' post='2241417'] I give Greg Bell all the credit in the world for being instrumental in helping us land Cornelius Bennett. GO BILLS!!! Biscuit was great, but no way in heck would a trade ever happen like that again. Nowadays you can get Pro Bowl players for a 3rd or 4th round pick and back in 1987 the Bills gave up 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick and a Pro Bowl running back for Bennett-then had to pay half of Bell's salary the first year in order for the Rams to accept Bell (they wanted Ronnie Harmon). Bell was a malcontent and hardly no team in the league wanted anything to do with him, despite him making the Pro Bowl as a rookie. The Rams got 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks and some scrub for a running back who already had half a dozen seasons in the league. Check out the link for the below Los Angeles newspaper article where Bell has some not so kind words for our owner. Halloween Trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? Bell on the wall? Come on man! I would put Flutie there before Bell. Edited September 10, 2011 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Joe Cribbs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg Bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? I think Bell gets overlooked because the Bills have been blessed with good running backs over the years. Bell is just one of a distinguished group that has included Gilchrist, OJ, Cribbs, Thomas... Terry Miller was very good for a year. McGahee, Lynch and Henry weren't bad at all. Even some of our back up Running Backs (e.g. Roland Hooks) and Fullbacks (e.g. Jim Braxton) were pretty good. Our list of distinguished QBs would be much shorter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack_in_MA Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Put him on the Wall of Fame? Seriously? F* no. Edited September 10, 2011 by Slack_in_MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 quote name='K-9' timestamp='1315618849' post='2241417'] I give Greg Bell all the credit in the world for being instrumental in helping us land Cornelius Bennett. GO BILLS!!! Biscuit was great, but no way in heck would a trade ever happen like that again. Nowadays you can get Pro Bowl players for a 3rd or 4th round pick and back in 1987 the Bills gave up 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick and a Pro Bowl running back for Bennett-then had to pay half of Bell's salary the first year in order for the Rams to accept Bell (they wanted Ronnie Harmon). Bell was a malcontent and hardly no team in the league wanted anything to do with him, despite him making the Pro Bowl as a rookie. The Rams got 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks and some scrub for a running back who already had half a dozen seasons in the league. Check out the link for the below Los Angeles newspaper article where Bell has some not so kind words for our owner. Halloween Trade I remember him calling Smerlas a racist too. Young man had an axe to grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 GO BILLS!!! Biscuit was great, but no way in heck would a trade ever happen like that again. Nowadays you can get Pro Bowl players for a 3rd or 4th round pick and back in 1987 the Bills gave up 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick and a Pro Bowl running back for Bennett-then had to pay half of Bell's salary the first year in order for the Rams to accept Bell (they wanted Ronnie Harmon). Bell was a malcontent and hardly no team in the league wanted anything to do with him, despite him making the Pro Bowl as a rookie. The Rams got 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks and some scrub for a running back who already had half a dozen seasons in the league. Check out the link for the below Los Angeles newspaper article where Bell has some not so kind words for our owner. Halloween Trade We should have given them Harmon ... Maybe then we would have been in 5 straight Super Bowls ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Biscuit was great, but no way in heck would a trade ever happen like that again. Nowadays you can get Pro Bowl players for a 3rd or 4th round pick and back in 1987 the Bills gave up 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick and a Pro Bowl running back for Bennett-then had to pay half of Bell's salary the first year in order for the Rams to accept Bell (they wanted Ronnie Harmon). Bell was a malcontent and hardly no team in the league wanted anything to do with him, despite him making the Pro Bowl as a rookie. The Rams got 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks and some scrub for a running back who already had half a dozen seasons in the league. Check out the link for the below Los Angeles newspaper article where Bell has some not so kind words for our owner. Halloween Trade Well, the Bills drafted Thurman Thomas that year so the solved the running back problem fairly quickly and easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CA OC Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Biscuit was great, but no way in heck would a trade ever happen like that again. Nowadays you can get Pro Bowl players for a 3rd or 4th round pick and back in 1987 the Bills gave up 2 first round picks, a 2nd round pick and a Pro Bowl running back for Bennett-then had to pay half of Bell's salary the first year in order for the Rams to accept Bell (they wanted Ronnie Harmon). Bell was a malcontent and hardly no team in the league wanted anything to do with him, despite him making the Pro Bowl as a rookie. The Rams got 3 first round picks, 3 second round picks and some scrub for a running back who already had half a dozen seasons in the league. Check out the link for the below Los Angeles newspaper article where Bell has some not so kind words for our owner. I agree that there aren't many blockbuster player trades, but not sure which player you're talking about (Bennett or Dickerson). Bennett had not played a down in the NFL. He was the second overall pick in the draft but wouldn't sign with the Dolts. What would have happened with Eli Manning if the Chargers didn't trade him immediately but kept trying to sign him into October and then gave up and then wanted to trade him? Of course a LB isn't a QB, but basically the Dolts were trading the 2nd overall pick in the draft. Dickerson was 3 seasons removed from the all time single season yardage record (yes, in 16 games, not 14) and led the league in rushing 3 of his first 4 seasons ('87 was his fifth season). The Dolts were desperate to get rid of the second overall pick and get the value they would have gotten on draft day for him. They got the best running back in the league when top running backs had much more value than they do today. The Lambs got a decent running back and a ton of draft picks that they wasted away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 GREG "TINKER" BELL ON THE WALL? are you friggin stupid or just trying to be.. "greg ,no balls bell". on the wall would be like asking if tony hunter is tough.. the two of them best friend in the pros was the trainer because they always had " a problem" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) I would like to have seen this board around the day the Bills drafted Greg Bell in the 1st. Edited September 10, 2011 by Rico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flomoe Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? I would give Terry Miller consideration long before Bell, Bell was an !@#$. The only thing Bell was good for was that he was a throw in(get rid of) player in the Bennett deal. Bell should never be considered for anything, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) Greg Bell Wiki"]Greg Bell Wiki[/url] He was only in Buffalo for 3 1/2 years, and his career stats weren't spectacular. Lots of running backs have great first seasons. He gets a "NO" vote from me.. Edited September 10, 2011 by Mr_Blizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I'm just a year or so age-wise from being able to remember Greg Bell play. BUT...every youtube Bills video I watch (BillCody1960 = GOD!!!) from the Bell's time has him looking like a hall-of-famer. Today I was watching the Bill-Cowboys 1984 game and Greg Bell dominated leading us to a huge upset of the shi*-boys. Simple Question: Does Greg Bell get due credit? Not even close. Greg Bell was an average RB for a team with a history of great RBs ( such as: Gilcrest, Simpson, Cribbs, and Thurman). No one should go on the Wall until Lou Saban and Cookie Gilcrest get their due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvermike Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Bell is currently 13th all time for the Bills in rushing. That's really not exceptional - he trails Marshawn Lynch, Kenneth Davis, and Willis McGahee. I don't think he really deserves wall enshrinement over any of them, and they don't belong on the wall. Cribbs, trailing only Thurman and OJ, at least merits consideration. On the other hand, if you want to play the Ralph is cheap game, Greg Bell does use very few letters, just like Marv Levy, Kent Hull, and Jack Kemp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) I think Bell gets overlooked because the Bills have been blessed with good running backs over the years. Bell is just one of a distinguished group that has included Gilchrist, OJ, Cribbs, Thomas... Terry Miller was very good for a year. McGahee, Lynch and Henry weren't bad at all. Even some of our back up Running Backs (e.g. Roland Hooks) and Fullbacks (e.g. Jim Braxton) were pretty good. Our list of distinguished QBs would be much shorter. Stop it ... Bell, Lynch, McGahee, Henry. No way. They are all several rungs below our top four of Gilcrest, Simpson, Thurman and Cribbs. Gilcrest was the best Football Player in the CFL ever, he should have been in the NFL in his prime. He was the best football player in the AFL from 1962 to 1965, making the All Star team every year. He was the best runner, blocker, tackler, kicker, hitter, talker, fighter, mauler, and complainer of all time. Simpson was a Heisman winner who almost won it twice!. He was voted the best football player of the 70's decade. Period. Thurman was the best all around running back to play in the modern era. Cribbs has the least stats of this group, and is a rung or two below the other three. He still is far better than the rest. Bell, Lynch, McGahee, Henry, Miller, ... they do not get honorable mention. Wayne Carlton, Jim Braxton, Roland Hooks, Kenny Davis, and Freddy Jackson have all contributed more to the Buffalo Bills than the group you are naming, even if they had less talent. Edited September 10, 2011 by Bob in STL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blogic2 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 (edited) WOW! A lot of talk about guys who should NOT come close to the wall. Cribbs was a good player but once you start putting "good" players on the wall, it diminishes the significance. If there is a debate over whether a player belongs on the wall, they probably don't belong there. JMHO Edited September 10, 2011 by blogic2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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