NoSaint Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Whitner is a solid player, and I couldn't care less about his tweets. But my guess is that the Bills have moved on. If their starting lineup at safety is George Wilson and Jairus Byrd, and their depth at the position is Bryan Scott and Searcy, where in that equation would Whitner fit? They don't need more depth players at safety, and Wilson's pass coverage is better than Whitner's. easy - you carry 5 guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switz1610 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Yes - but they also started Edwards over Fitzpatrick as well. They watched and they learned. It took a little more time with Whitner - and because he is such a vocal guy in the lockerroom. Honestly, if Wilson didn't have that same leadership ability, I'd think twice too. They call him the "Senator" - he's a more mature team leader. All this being said, I would love to see this position get better talent over Wilson. He's not the be-all-end-all safety. He's just better than the player demanding to get paid in the top 5 at his position, when in truth, he's in the bottom 5. Free agency shined on light on that beast for certain. I think they call him Senator because he is the team's NFLPA rep... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I thought it was his tweets that "ruined your life as a bills fan the last 2 years". Our run d is what has killed our team the last couple years. We've upgraded our run d this offseason, but losing donte would be a negative blow to our run d. It would still be better than last year, but keeping donte would strengthen it even more. Play Wilson on obvious passing downs and whitner on obv running downs. We've added Barnett, who is great in coverage. He can help cover the TEs too. He's not going to make or break our team, but he IS an asset vs the run and would add even greater depth to our secondary. Don't break the bank for him, but sign him for the right price. id also bet that with a pass rush, a single position, and some linebackers that can stop the run -- his coverage would be better. having to keep an eye in the backfield, while rotating between nickel, FS, SS week to week, and having to hold coverage forever is not helping his coverage. that said, i worry that he quit and pouted on the field the last month of last year, and if that feeling is true, you CAN NOT bring him back. if not he is a leader in the secondary, and a good, reliable, player. Not worth breaking the bank for 7M like he wanted but id give 4-5m every day of the week on a short (3year) deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defend Greece Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Donte is a baller, everybody on our d looked bad except Kyle (although he teams did take advantage of his penetration on draws and counters), but on paper our d looks pretty good, that and a pretty stellar collection of defensive position coaches and you might get to see a donte that isn't forced to play in the box and have to try to turn and run, but one who gets to play deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I want him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 There were so many posters on this board who said that once Lil Donte hit the market, he'd be snatched up in a second!! Where is Dean???!!! If you REALLY want to know, He's still on this Steely Dan board I read every now & then, do a Edit>Find on "Dean": http://www.dandom.com/blue/index.html Just as big of a jackass with people who don't agree with him on there as he is on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 "i worry that he quit...you CAN NOT bring him back." This quote from NoSaint could be definitive. He cleaned out his locker. He quit. I hope he finds inspiration some where else. I do not even know what he tweeted but the locker run away thing was not a team player attitude and we should tender him nothing. we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXL Franchize Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 Would love to see Donte back in uniform. Low $$$ with high incentives. Of all the first rounders that have come and gone in buffalo I felt he had his heart in the team. We've been cursed with 1st rounders that now play for other teams and out of all of those players Donte is the only one who I ever thought really wanted BUFFALO as a franchise to succeed. He's great with the younger guys and I would love to see him on the field with this upcoming defense. Again though Low $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 id also bet that with a pass rush, a single position, and some linebackers that can stop the run -- his coverage would be better. This is a big misnomer. His coverage would not be any better. The rest of the team would be better able to cover for his liability. Donte twittered himself out of more money than Ko Simpson is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 I wish Donte the best...but, I will swan dive off of the Hover Dam...if the Bills give him a long tern contract of 5 million per year! His bipolar tweets have ruined my life as a Bills fan over the past 2 years! And some people are calling Whitner a drama queen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfreak Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 twitter 1 min ago, assume he coming back? I would sooner assume that he has no takers, so he is trying to grease the skids to come back. Now he is going to start saying good things about the Bills, where were those positive comments the past six months? He is getting a little skiddish now that training camps are underway and he didn't have a dozen teams knocking down his door like he thought he would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiragandhi'sthong Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 twitter 1 min ago, assume he coming back? That's fine as long as his body suits up in another city! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 You should post more often yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETD66SS Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I would love to tap Buddy's phone to see how the talks with Donte's agent are going. Buddy- "Three years, 6 million" Agent-"C'mon, you were offering 5 last week" Buddy-"You misunderstood, I was asking Chan to gimme 5 cause Donte's Twitter account was someone else's issue" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clearwater cadet Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 He must have the bills and another offer on the table(ciny?), and they must be pretty similar. Maybe he thinks if he talk about how much he like buffalo, the other team will sweaten there offer. He can't practice till friday so why not wait to see if he can get a better offer. I would still sign him to a 1 year offer for 3 to 4 mil, to see what he can do with a better d-line and better d coaching staff. I really don't care if we over pay for him for a year. To me to doesn't matter if the money sits in his bank account or ralphs. There not going to use it on anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvrOfficiousJerk Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I think they call him Senator because he is the team's NFLPA rep... Also bc he talks all the time and hogs the attention when the press comes into the locker room, lol. I like Wilson a lot, has his share of clutch INTs/pick sixes so I really like him for that. Speaking of being a leader, Whitner seemed to have gone out of his way to be somewhat of a leader for the defensive corps: I remember hearing about how he'd have his defense over for dinner, film sessions, etc. But the occasional jaw-shattering hit and camraderie a starting SS does not make, and he definitely didn't deserve the money he was asking for. Hopefully he can stay, but as many other posters have said, the Bills have plenty of safeties at the moment who are filling roster spots at a much more reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) NO You're not deep voice. IMPOSTOR!!! Edited August 4, 2011 by The Wiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog69 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I don't care where his heart is, I just hope his body is not on the Bills unless it is for the veteran minimum. He's all mouth and no a$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 (edited) Why not bring him back at a reasonable price if possible and see if he can make the team as a starter? Edited August 4, 2011 by bmur66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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