Warcodered Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Whoa dude you are in serious need of critical thinking in place of your current wishful variety. Are you actually saying that Newton observed gravity “occurring everywhere”? Really? How did he do that? He lived from 1643 until 1727 on a planet called Earth. That’s a reeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaalllllllly small sample size of observations, no? Are you suggesting his theory is invalid or useless? How about all other theories that ever existed? Their dumb too because you’re hoping there are aliens out there? Your living room analogy is pretty bad too. I’ve heard it spun a different way featuring a glass of water from the ocean. There aren’t any whales in typical glasses of water from oceans so…….. The problem is, in that any glass of water from any ocean you can find mountains upon mountains of evidence for all sorts of life. Still, a whale won’t fit so I suppose we’re doomed to ridiculous things being said. The difference in analogies is that you’re trying to say the sample size is too small but your ignoring the actual sample size that has been taken. The corner you’re in has forced you to call Isaac Newton a big dummy. Doesn’t that sound a little off? Everybody observes gravity occurring everywhere, but when you're discovering/creating the theory of it from observations you don't see one thing and whelp I guess we'll call it good. You repeat it over and over again, you change variables and observe and repeat that and see if there are differences. Hell it took him decades from that observation to fully develop his theory and it wasn't just about an apple falling to the Earth because of Gravity but the orbit of the Moon and other celestial bodies. This is all pretty basic scientific method stuff, have you had a science class before? As to the rest, you mean the thing I said to illustrate how stupid the thing you said was also ridiculous. 😱 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 8 hours ago, Warcodered said: Everybody observes gravity occurring everywhere, but when you're discovering/creating the theory of it from observations you don't see one thing and whelp I guess we'll call it good. You repeat it over and over again, you change variables and observe and repeat that and see if there are differences. Hell it took him decades from that observation to fully develop his theory and it wasn't just about an apple falling to the Earth because of Gravity but the orbit of the Moon and other celestial bodies. This is all pretty basic scientific method stuff, have you had a science class before? As to the rest, you mean the thing I said to illustrate how stupid the thing you said was also ridiculous. 😱 Objectivity is your friend. Give it a shot sometimes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I got way into UFOs last year and made a record about it. https://grassjaw.bandcamp.com/album/i-dont-want-to-believe If anyone wants to hear the whole thing early, I'm happy to share download codes, just DM me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 2/9/2023 at 1:53 PM, 4merper4mer said: But we do know there are trillions upon trillions upon trillions of ways they can fold and yet only one of those formed life. You can twist as increasing the odds aliens exist but in fact, it makes it far far far less likely. Math. If we exist, there are others, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 32 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: If we exist, there are others, period. That’s very poor use of logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Spiderweb said: If we exist, there are others, period. At first I wasn't convinced, but then you supported your assertion by writing "period," so you must be right, because if there was actually any doubt, you would have been required to write "semicolon" and consider other possibilities (or at least write "comma"). Think much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 He soft peddles this a bit but if you're good at reading between the lines you know what he really thinks. He's also pretty good at math: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICanSleepWhenI'mDead Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I have an actual update ! ! ! Interesting article about potential NASA plans for a new roughly $11 billion telescope that would be parked in orbit near the existing James Webb space telescope more than a decade from now but have superior capabilities: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/this-planned-nasa-telescope-may-help-us-identify-worlds-like-our-own-180983601/?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us Like all articles dealing with the search for extraterrestrial life, it makes some speculative assumptions, but at least it identifies them as such. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Although I think he is missing a few things that would point away from aliens, this is an interesting video that points out a few factors that imply that we might not be unique…..just early. Either way, I thought some might find it interesting. The first part is all science but about halfway through the implications for life are mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Still nuthin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bad Things Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 https://us.cnn.com/2024/02/12/world/baltic-sea-hunter-gatherer-megastructure-scn/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1980QJRAS..21..267T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony P Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_J._Tipler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 A little deep dive research if you’re so inclined. It has not and probably cannot be proven that an odd perfect number doesn’t exist……but an odd perfect number doesn’t exist. The whole video is fun but if you want the math that pertains to this topic you can skip to 25:22. Basically the same type of stuff that the silliness around aliens revolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 (edited) 36 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: A little deep dive research if you’re so inclined. It has not and probably cannot be proven that an odd perfect number doesn’t exist……but an odd perfect number doesn’t exist. The whole video is fun but if you want the math that pertains to this topic you can skip to 25:22. Basically the same type of stuff that the silliness around aliens revolves. Math? At the 25:22 mark? That was a picture of some stars, but we knew they were out there already. I think you tried to bore me to death!!! 😂 . Edited March 12 by Augie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 53 minutes ago, Augie said: Math? At the 25:22 mark? That was a picture of some stars, but we knew they were out there already. I think you tried to bore me to death!!! 😂 . Starting at 25:22. Listen to the two geeks talking to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Starting at 25:22. Listen to the two geeks talking to each other. I’m afraid the geekiness starts well before that mark….and just won’t STOP! 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 7 minutes ago, Augie said: I’m afraid the geekiness starts well before that mark….and just won’t STOP! 😂 It’s pretty geeky, I’ll grant you that. But it is math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: It’s pretty geeky, I’ll grant you that. But it is math. Irrelevant to the topic (or much of anything else, as he admitted), party trick for geeks kinda math, but it is indeed math. No denying that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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