John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Dont have a link or anything like that....just speculation - Successfull cold weather 3-4 linebacker - Nix made a comment in his radio interview this morning talking about how "there are players out there that are going to be available but are not yet" Im paraphrasing there It makes sense.....and Nick Barnett was older is a LEGIT 3-4 linebacker....If we can get him we can start Barnett/Davis in the middle and bring Kelvin on slowly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 It makes too much sense for this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDD Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I think Nix is talking out of his butthole. He has no plan other than the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I think Nix is talking out of his butthole. He has no plan other than the draft. Thanks. Now that football's back, get to work on my "ignored user" list again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Dont have a link or anything like that....just speculation - Successfull cold weather 3-4 linebacker - Nix made a comment in his radio interview this morning talking about how "there are players out there that are going to be available but are not yet" Im paraphrasing there It makes sense.....and Nick Barnett was older is a LEGIT 3-4 linebacker....If we can get him we can start Barnett/Davis in the middle and bring Kelvin on slowly Been saying this is the move even before Poz left....He's a better player than Poz and from a winning program. The only concern is the injury history. Make the deal Buddy before he has options after being released from GB!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRAAPY Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 http://twitter.com/#!/MarkLud12 According to this fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) Don't know much about him but sounds like he had a pretty solid year last year......94 tackles, sacks, 2 FF, 2 ints and a TD. I think this could be a solid pick up. Edited July 27, 2011 by Stl Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Don't know much about him but sounds like he had a pretty solid year last year......94 tackles, sacks, 2 FF, 2 ints and a TD. I think this could be a solid pick up. Your avatar is sooooooooo creepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Link........... http://boltbeat.com/2011/07/25/the-chargers-should-____________-post-nfl-lockout/ The key un-restricted free agents on the Bolts are safety Eric Weddle; line backer Kevin Burnett and Stephen Cooper, and wide receiver Malcolm Floyd. All four players played key roles for the team last year. Weddle, Burnett, and Cooper helped anchor a much improved defense that ranked #1 overall. The Chargers next priority should be attempting to retain Kevin Burnett. Burnett racked in 95 total tackles, only 1 off the team lead. He is known for his ability to help clog up the run and read defenses well. However, Burnett can get around the edge and get sacks, he had 6 last year. The linebacker need is glaring for the Chargers; I would expect him to fill that need nicely. As bad as they do need Burnett, makes the need for teammate Stephen Cooper much less. So wait he's good against the run and at rushing the passer from inside? Sounds better by the second. Sign this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The Bolts signed Spikes too didnt they? Looks like he is on the way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 The Bolts signed Spikes too didnt they? Looks like he is on the way out Yup and Weddle, looks like they won't have the money for Burnett. Article states that two different sources claim his asking price is north of 5mil/year...... Chargers back off Burnett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKRAAPY Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Also, Merriman might be in this guys ear. There are things working for this potential signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUDDY!! Signing Burnett would make me feel much better about losing our leading tackler and starting ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoretalk Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Link........... http://boltbeat.com/2011/07/25/the-chargers-should-____________-post-nfl-lockout/ So wait he's good against the run and at rushing the passer from inside? Sounds better by the second. Sign this guy. Thanks for the link! Definitely worth more than the new Jacksonville MLB ... so if we can get him for less we are ahead of the game. Sounds like the BOLTS will also be in this race but with Buddy and Merriman's SD connections we just might get this done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUDDY!! Signing Burnett would make me feel much better about losing our leading tackler and starting ILB overpaid and overrated ILB who never accomplished jack while he was in Buffalo. Edited for u. You can thank me later bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Edited for u. You can thank me later bruh. He wasnt our leading tackler? He wasnt a starter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Fwiw, Someone sent this tweet to merriman, and he retweeted himself on his twitter: @Davejr51179: @shawnemerriman We lost Poz to the Jags. It's time to give a call to your boys in SD (Cooper, Siler and Burnett) and get them to Buffalo. might be a sign that he might try to influence some. and with buddy's influence, it might be possible. Would be even cooler if we signed two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 He wasnt our leading tackler? He wasnt a starter? ooh yea you're right. 100% right. I was mistaken. He was our leading tackler and a starter on one of the worst defenses in the league. Lets give him a medal. Give me someone who has half his tackles and more game changing ability and I'll take that any day. Quality over quantity. But obviously you don't understand that concept bruh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ooh yea you're right. 100% right. I was mistaken. He was our leading tackler and a starter on one of the worst defenses in the league. Lets give him a medal. Poz makes better tackles than you make jokes, that's for sure. Your post STILL makes no sense, no matter how you spin it. And if they do sign burnett, that would be awesome. Instant upgrade over poz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clancynut Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 If he does sign with the Bills, who is the other starting LB Davis or Sheppard? I think Davis starts the first four or five games, until Sheppard gets a better handle on the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 ooh yea you're right. 100% right. I was mistaken. He was our leading tackler and a starter on one of the worst defenses in the league. Lets give him a medal. Give me someone who has half his tackles and more game changing ability and I'll take that any day. Quality over quantity. But obviously you don't understand that concept bruh. So we should cut Kyle Williams while we're at it, since he was the NT on the worst run defense. He must suck. And you are right, if a player only made half the tackles Poz did they would be a game-changer. Problem is it would be to the opposition's advantage. Youre talking about 70+ plays that go much longer because no one made the tackle. Great "concept" you have there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) If he does sign with the Bills, who is the other starting LB Davis or Sheppard? I think Davis starts the first four or five games, until Sheppard gets a better handle on the defense. Davis would be the starter for sure. Sheppard won't take over unless davis or Burnett gets injured. That is, if we sign burnett. Davis is a good player. He just isn't a playmaker and he got injured last year. But he is a legit starter and isn't a scrub like we have at quite a few of our positions. Edited July 27, 2011 by DanInUticaTampa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreReed83 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Poz makes better tackles than you make jokes, that's for sure. Your post STILL makes no sense, no matter how you spin it. And if they do sign burnett, that would be awesome. Instant upgrade over poz. Well that's because you're not at the level of my intelligence. Can't help you there. Maybe if I dummy things down for you you'll be able to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Well that's because you're not at the level of my intelligence. Can't help you there. Maybe if I dummy things down for you you'll be able to understand? If you don't understand how saying factual information is wrong is a bad joke, then you will never hear anything more than crickets. And if you think you fix one of the worst defenses by losing one of your better players, than that is terrible logic. IF your defense sucks, you rid of your worst players, not the best ones. If you rid your best players, you get even worse. But ya know, you don't follow simple logic. it is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 MAKE THIS HAPPEN, BUDDY!! Signing Burnett would make me feel much better about losing our leading tackler and starting ILB. I agree! I can't belive the Jags gave Puz that much money (that's perhpas one reason they suck). Perhaps Puz is planning to pay some people to sit in the stands. It will be a MUCH different experience for him down there than at PSU or in Buffalo. He said he loved Buffalo, etc. and then didn't take a hometown discount. Who know's what the Bills were offering, but freaking Santonio Holmes took less money to stay with the Jets--what's that say about Puz. I can't imagine the Bills offered less than 5 million a year. His agent said they tried hard to get him. I used to like this guy a lot, now he's in the Jagr talking out of both sides of my a** club. Poz makes better tackles than you make jokes, that's for sure. Your post STILL makes no sense, no matter how you spin it. And if they do sign burnett, that would be awesome. Instant upgrade over poz. This is a good post. Thank you. Loosing Puz is a loss for the Defense. You don't improve the worst defense by getting rid of one of its best players. You get rid of players like Kelsay, who for some unknown reason was re-signed. If they don't get a veteran to replace Puz you'll see how much he meant to this team when we are getting run all over even more next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I agree that you dont get rid of your best players and improve.....but I think there IS something to be said about finding a comparable player, then improving OTHER areas of your team and you will improve....just hear me out here...... IF - We lose Poz....gain Barnett - Resign Drayton (which happened) then you are kinda at a push...you didn't lose much because you replaced a quality guy with a quality guy and lets not forget...its not like Poz was a top 5 gamechanging force....he wasnt....he was a solid player No the improvements that will come to our defense will be: - Drafting the best defensive player in the draft in Marcel Darius - Carrington and Troupe with another year under their belt and improving every game last season....I cant wait to see what Troupe looks like with another 20 pounds of muscule on him and being at a legit NT size of 330 pounds - Drafting Kelvin Sheppard.....improving the quality of the players BEHIND Davis and Barnett - Drafting Williams..... Overall I cannot say just how much I loved this last draft....we got bigger, stronger, and meaner on the defensive side of the ball. To me THAT IS how we improve the team..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj____ Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 you guys realize that nick barnett and kevin burnett are 2 completely different people right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 you guys realize that nick barnett and kevin burnett are 2 completely different people right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 you guys realize that nick barnett and kevin burnett are 2 completely different people right? Shore do! Isn't Nick Barnett Bobby Brunett's son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jj____ Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 He's the cousin of former mlb pitcher Justin Brunette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 this nick barnett thread quickly turned into a kevin burnett thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I agree! I can't belive the Jags gave Puz that much money (that's perhpas one reason they suck). Perhaps Puz is planning to pay some people to sit in the stands. It will be a MUCH different experience for him down there than at PSU or in Buffalo. He said he loved Buffalo, etc. and then didn't take a hometown discount. Who know's what the Bills were offering, but freaking Santonio Holmes took less money to stay with the Jets--what's that say about Puz. I can't imagine the Bills offered less than 5 million a year. His agent said they tried hard to get him. I used to like this guy a lot, now he's in the Jagr talking out of both sides of my a** club. This is a good post. Thank you. Loosing Puz is a loss for the Defense. You don't improve the worst defense by getting rid of one of its best players. You get rid of players like Kelsay, who for some unknown reason was re-signed. If they don't get a veteran to replace Puz you'll see how much he meant to this team when we are getting run all over even more next year. On the radio they said that Poz felt he was a much better fit for a 4-3 defense than a 3-4. Assuming his self-assessment is accurate, there's a chance the Jags were willing to pay considerably more for him than the Bills. If you know a guy is only going to be decent in the system you're running, why offer him more than just a decent salary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrid Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Shore do! Isn't Nick Barnett Bobby Brunett's son? Yes, and Carol Burnett is his mother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 this nick barnett thread quickly turned into a kevin burnett thread Maybe it's the mods' way of merging two like threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) I'll play. "San Diego re-signed their fourth player in two days Wednesday night, bringing back outside linebacker Antwan Barnes on a two-year contract. Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune has the news and also wondered if money will be left to sign inside linebacker Kevin Burnett at this point. The Chargers have spent big money on safety Eric Weddle and Takeo Spikes. Burnett reportedly wants more than $5 million-per-year, but he may have priced himself off the Chargers." "LB Kevin Burnett said to be seeking $5M+/yr, maybe too rich for #SD. Spoken with #Bills, #Seahawks, #Titans, & #Dolphins" Edited July 28, 2011 by Astrobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 you guys realize that nick barnett and kevin burnett are 2 completely different people right? this was two different threads that got merged sometime this afternoon. not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 The guy is hurt A LOT recently (Ended 2008 after 9 games, and 2010 after 4 games), but I think its worth the risk. The guy has played 3 seasons (Including a full 16 game slate in 2009) in a 3-4 and in a cold weather environment. If the Pack cut him the Bills should go full force after him with a solid deal. Its too much of a glaring need with Poz gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Sorry guys this is my fault....I am mixing up the names I think. I am talking about the ILB for the Chargers.....who is in fact not a "cold weather LB" of course I am hoping he is a bill soon......love his size and he looks like a hitter and a pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 At this point there is Nick Barnett, Kevin Burnett, Tulluck, Ruud, and there will be others released, any of which should be able to, when mixed in with Davis, Sheppard, and White make a decent ILB tandem. And, a lot of those guys have experience on top-notched 3-4 defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I'll play. "San Diego re-signed their fourth player in two days Wednesday night, bringing back outside linebacker Antwan Barnes on a two-year contract. Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune has the news and also wondered if money will be left to sign inside linebacker Kevin Burnett at this point. The Chargers have spent big money on safety Eric Weddle and Takeo Spikes. Burnett reportedly wants more than $5 million-per-year, but he may have priced himself off the Chargers." "LB Kevin Burnett said to be seeking $5M+/yr, maybe too rich for #SD. Spoken with #Bills, #Seahawks, #Titans, & #Dolphins" May have priced himself out of Buffalo too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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