Magox Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 Yes, and not very good ones, IMO. Any serious discussion on the economy focuses on the housing market, consumer spending and the fact that it has been governments cutting jobs, not businesses, that is really holding back a more serious recovery and none of those things you mentioned seriously address those issues. The private secor has created 1.7 million new jobs just this past year, but that was heavily off set by the huge number of GOVERNMENT workers losing their jobs to tea party calls for less government. And there is no way to connect cap and trade to the housing market, is there? And on top of all that historically we are looking at a long recovery, as most financial crisis take years to recover from. You are acting as if Obama could just do what Conservative Politicains want then things would be great! Read the discussion in yesterday's wall street journal about that. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304584404576440203602314190.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read Was there an institution holding you back? A little more about the EPA and their new regulations and how it is expected to affect jobs Nine top business and industry officials walked into EPA headquarters Friday afternoon to tell agency chief Lisa Jackson exactly what they think of her plans to tighten the federal ozone standard. But they left the meeting convinced that EPA planned to stick to its guns and are now taking their case to a higher power: The White House. They say the stricter ozone standards would hurt both industry and President Barack Obama’s chances for reelection. Representatives from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers, the Business Roundtable and other industry groups met with Jackson, EPA Deputy Administrator Bob Perciasepe and EPA air chief Gina McCarthy for more than an hour Friday, during which they urged the agency to abandon its plans to tighten the George W. Bush administration’s 2008 ozone standard. Jay Timmons, president of the National Association of Manufacturers, said after the meeting that while the tone of the meeting was “very respectful,” Jackson indicated that her plan was to issue a new ozone standard between 60 and 70 parts per billion when averaged over an eight-hour period. The Bush administration tightened the ozone limits from 84 ppb to 75 ppb in 2008, despite scientific advisers' recommendations to issue a standard between 60 ppb and 70 ppb. “Her point was that 60 to 70 is the scientific standard that should be taken into consideration or should have been taken into consideration, so my assumption is it will fall somewhere in that zone, at least for this change,” Timmons told POLITICO. “Clearly she’s very focused on changing the rule, so whatever it is, it won’t be a good thing for states, localities or business in general," he added. Cal Dooley, president of the American Chemistry Council, said of Jackson, “She said she would give us some consideration. But I’m not overly optimistic.” Industry officials leaving the meeting are hoping for more sympathy from the White House after the administration’s stated commitment to reducing regulatory burdens imposed on industry. “It’s a big test for the president,” said John Engler, president of the Business Roundtable and a former Michigan governor. “But, I’m betting on the president, not the agency.” Prior to Friday’s meeting, the Business Roundtable — a coalition of major U.S. companies — sent a letter to White House chief of staff Bill Daley asking EPA to back off of its plans, arguing that the final rule “promises to be the single most expensive environmental regulation ever imposed on the U.S. economy” and could cost up to $90 billion annually. Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59142.html#ixzz1SJ7iBN2r It's all a big conspiracy. No wait, they are all racists, I mean, that is why they are complaining about these new regulations, they are all racists, even though many business CEO's from the business roundtable voted for Obama, but since they are complaining, they must be racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 This is WAY worse then Conner. Poll? Hard call. I don't know...I get the impression that Dave knows he's an idiot. Never got that impression with conner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 youtube.com/watch_popup?v=3JDT5vBQQr8&vq=medium Now that's some funny stuff right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted July 16, 2011 Share Posted July 16, 2011 I don't know...I get the impression that Dave knows he's an idiot. Never got that impression with conner. Well then Dave knows one fact, at lest. One more then Conner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 youtube.com/watch_popup?v=3JDT5vBQQr8&vq=medium Have you heard It'd be funny if it weren't so scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-07-13.html McConnell's deal cleanly takes the debt ceiling issue off the Republicans' back and puts it on the president's back. Either the Democrats tell us what they'll cut or they'll have to admit: "We will never cut anything. Everything Ann Coulter says about us is true!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2011-07-13.html http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80648410/ Speaking of Ann Coulter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/80648410/ Speaking of Ann Coulter Not for nuthin', but Michelle Malkin could increase her looks tenfold if she would JUST STOP TALKING. It's virtually impossible to be more annoying than her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Not for nuthin', but Michelle Malkin could increase her looks tenfold if she would JUST STOP TALKING. It's virtually impossible to be more annoying than her. Mute button Wish it worked for all women Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_In_Norfolk Posted July 18, 2011 Author Share Posted July 18, 2011 A little more about the EPA and their new regulations and how it is expected to affect jobs Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0711/59142.html#ixzz1SJ7iBN2r It's all a big conspiracy. No wait, they are all racists, I mean, that is why they are complaining about these new regulations, they are all racists, even though many business CEO's from the business roundtable voted for Obama, but since they are complaining, they must be racists. Ya, and this will make housing prices rise! Btw, looks like the tea party is f'n the economy up now over this refusal to raise the debt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 18, 2011 Share Posted July 18, 2011 Ya, and this will make housing prices rise! Btw, looks like the tea party is f'n the economy up now over this refusal to raise the debt Y'know, I find that more and more I look forward to your posts. Just for the humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Ya, and this will make housing prices rise! What the hell are you talking about? Who mentioned housing? The question was, what are some of his policies that are holding back job creation? I answered it, and then you come back with this? Really? Jesus, you are one ignorant dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 What the hell are you talking about? Who mentioned housing? The question was, what are some of his policies that are holding back job creation? I answered it, and then you come back with this? Really? Jesus, you are one ignorant dude. He's a troll trying to get a rise from people. I don't believe him at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Ya, and this will make housing prices rise! Btw, looks like the tea party is f'n the economy up now over this refusal to raise the debt Is there a finer example of just how frustrated the left is by the utter failure of their economic policy...than wishfully thinking that the Tea party, and not their best and brightest college professors, will be blamed for the f'ed up economy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Should I be putting my 401K funds into a money market account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 GG's math is solid, as long as you operate on the assumption that the rich are putting money into the economy. Where are the job creators whose asses we are kissing, creating all of these jobs? Could somebody please answer this question? I'm not asking to be snarky, I'm genuinely curious. And please don't fire back with some remark about me being an idiot or a leftist dolt. If there's an answer to this question, it doesn't require an accompanying insult. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They don't want to risk money with a socialist potus. Simple as that. No waking of the economy until he is gone. Or his "political demise" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 They don't want to risk money with a socialist potus. Simple as that. No waking of the economy until he is gone. Or his "political demise" Are you responding to the question I re-posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 Are you responding to the question I re-posted? Stimulus didn't create jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted July 20, 2011 Share Posted July 20, 2011 (edited) Stimulus didn't create jobs. Not what I asked. But I find it interesting that your response implies that both policies were utter failures. EDIT: If you're being sarcastic, I apologize. I've lost my meter with some of the personalities round these parts. Edited July 20, 2011 by The Big Cat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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