papazoid Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Falcons President and Competition Committee Chairman Rich McKay revealed on a conference call with the media today that the Competition Committee is proposing a major modification of kickoffs, moving the kickoff back to the 35-yard line instead of the 30, and giving the receiving team the ball at the 25-yard line, instead of the 20, if there’s a touchback. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/16/nfl-considers-kickoffs-at-35-yard-line-touchbacks-to-25-yard-line/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I think you keep it on the 20 but move the ball forward to the 35. In the 90's the kickers had cannons for legs and the more recent kickers are more FG specialists. It is fun to see that kickoff go deep, even if not in the end zone. A kick that doesn't pass the 10 yard line is no kick at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So it will be easier to kick the ball out of the end zone but they are discouraging touch backs by bringing the ball out to the 25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 So it will be easier to kick the ball out of the end zone but they are discouraging touch backs by bringing the ball out to the 25? if the ball hits the endzone, the player is more likely to kneel causing less returns, and less injuries is the theory. it also makes for interesting directional kicking etc.... without reading the pft article they are also discussing eliminating the running start for coverage teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaPolian8693 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I heard also that if the ball rolls out the back of the end zone, the kicking team will be awarded 1pt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I heard also that if the ball rolls out the back of the end zone, the kicking team will be awarded 1pt. The NFL's version of the Rouge. Go long, Gordy. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 hmm, interesting. i think i like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damian Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Didn't the Bills use to have a kicker who only did kickoffs? I think it was when we had Christie doing FG kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkwwjd Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It's just me, but I think they should eliminate touchbacks on kickoffs ... Most boring play in all of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 more proposed rule changes: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6223700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Didn't the Bills use to have a kicker who only did kickoffs? I think it was when we had Christie doing FG kicking. Brad Daluiso when Norwood was the kicker. He had a rocket for a leg, and as soon as the Bills got Christie, he went to the Giants and a few other teams, but lacked the accuracy to be a good field goal kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that kickoffs will be moved from the 30-yard line to the 35-yard line next season. Touchbacks will continue to be returned to the 20-yard line. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/22/kickoffs-will-be-moved-to-35-yard-line/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AReed Deep For 7 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I don't like this at all, they keep watering down the game every year. I dont see the 5 yards helping cut down on collisions. Like everyone isn't going to be at full speed now because of the extra 5 yards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I don't like this at all, they keep watering down the game every year. I dont see the 5 yards helping cut down on collisions. Like everyone isn't going to be at full speed now because of the extra 5 yards? zactly. How many of those full speed collisions will have already taken place before the TB is signaled? Some other changes: Under the new rule, coverage players will only get a 5-yard running start. The other major change involved instant replay. The booth replay official will now have to confirm all scoring plays, saving coaches from using challenges on plays in the end zone. To pass that proposal, the committee altered its suggestion by not changing the number of challenges for coaches. Now, coaches can make two challenges a game, but if they are correct on both, they would have access to a third challenge. The committee wanted to eliminate the third challenge. In a surprising move, the NFL tabled the expanded language changes in the rule involving penalties against defenseless players. Last year, the NFL cracked down with heavy fines and possible suspension for hits on defenseless players. The competition committee wanted to spell out those rules with eight explanations of what would be considered finable hits on defenseless players. Though that rule is expected to eventually pass, more time was needed for the language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Falcons President and Competition Committee Chairman Rich McKay revealed on a conference call with the media today that the Competition Committee is proposing a major modification of kickoffs, moving the kickoff back to the 35-yard line instead of the 30, and giving the receiving team the ball at the 25-yard line, instead of the 20, if there’s a touchback. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/16/nfl-considers-kickoffs-at-35-yard-line-touchbacks-to-25-yard-line/ There is another part if this rule change. They will be banning the wedge on kickoffs completely. It's all about safety now. That's why they are proposing to give them the ball at the 25 instead of the 20. Basically the league is discouraging returns and wants every kickoff to be a touchback. It's just the way this soft NFL is continuing to water down the game. There more rule changes for QBs too. Like you can't hit a QB in the chest area when he is in his throwing motion. So when can you hit a QB now?!?!?!? How bout for a .05 second time frame from when the ball is snapped and in between his 1st and 3rd step drop, and you can only do this with a DE and a blitzing Safety or CB and it must be 65 degrees outside and the score must be 10-7 and only in the month of November, and itlf it's in a Monday night game it's an immediate suspension, and if you are wearing red shoes it's a fine, but that's only if you don't tape your hands. There. The rule change is official. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 There is another part if this rule change. They will be banning the wedge on kickoffs completely. No, they won't the 2 man wedge stays. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AReed Deep For 7 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 this is very frustrating, its football. they are taking away an exciting part of the game to cut down the amount of plays? you could avoid all this all together and just put flags around their waist too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 another big mistake by the nfl. i won't be re-upping on sunday nfl ticket and this is just one of the reasons. goodell must go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Didn't the Bills use to have a kicker who only did kickoffs? I think it was when we had Christie doing FG kicking. Brad Daluiso. Can't believe I was the first to get that one. Think he was on one or two Super Bowl teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 there is another adjustment to the kickoff rules: Kick coverage players now will be limited to lining up 5 yards or fewer from the spot of the kickoff. this will slow down the coverage guys from getting a 10+ yard head of steam built up. Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/football/nfl/wires/03/22/owners.meeting.kickoffs.ap/index.html#ixzz1HMCgkl00 Brad Daluiso. Can't believe I was the first to get that one. Think he was on one or two Super Bowl teams. you might of overlooked post #11.....hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 There will probably come a time where kickoffs are eliminated and the team taking possession of the ball just starts at the 25 or 30 yard line. It almost makes more sense than this constant tinkering of the kickoff rules. Changing where the ball is kicked from, how much of a running start the defenders can take, four man wedges, two man edges, no wedges, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 there is another adjustment to the kickoff rules: Kick coverage players now will be limited to lining up 5 yards or fewer from the spot of the kickoff. this will slow down the coverage guys from getting a 10+ yard head of steam built up. Read more: http://sportsillustr...l#ixzz1HMCgkl00 you might of overlooked post #11.....hehe Thanks Papazoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffOrange Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) I don't like this at all, they keep watering down the game every year. I dont see the 5 yards helping cut down on collisions. Like everyone isn't going to be at full speed now because of the extra 5 yards? Watering down the game? They used to kick off from the 35 and moved it back 10-15 yrs ago to create more offense. Nobody else remembers this? Edited March 22, 2011 by BuffOrange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 There will probably come a time where kickoffs are eliminated and the team taking possession of the ball just starts at the 25 or 30 yard line. It almost makes more sense than this constant tinkering of the kickoff rules. Changing where the ball is kicked from, how much of a running start the defenders can take, four man wedges, two man edges, no wedges, etc... if they took field goals out of the game entirely and added a 5th down for the red zone i'd be back on board. once you attain a first down within the red zone you could have 5 downs to get a td. td or bust. and give punters the boot while we're at it. if you want to punt the ball you should have to use a normal player to punt like ochocinco/flutie/roethlisberger etc. who have shown they can punt. keep in mind, NFL, this is entertainment. kickoff returns are entertaining as are punts from non-punters. as would be more 4th down attempts instead of lame field goals. leave kicking to soccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 there is another adjustment to the kickoff rules: Kick coverage players now will be limited to lining up 5 yards or fewer from the spot of the kickoff. this will slow down the coverage guys from getting a 10+ yard head of steam built up. you might of overlooked post #11.....hehe Looks like someone else overlooked post #14.... Watering down the game? They used to kick off from the 35 and moved it back 10-15 yrs ago to create more offense. Nobody else remembers this? I remember kickoffs from the 40. At least that's what I think I remember. KRC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looks like someone else overlooked post #14.... I remember kickoffs from the 40. At least that's what I think I remember. KRC? Damn, you're old! Of course, I could only vaguely remember this if I were ready for a rockin' chair too. I don't like it either. It's not like Lou 'the Toe' Groza or Gerry Kramer are kicking off. Kickers today are fabulously accurate and way stonger than in the entire history of the game. Thus, kickoffs have been going back, back, back for years now. The only KO's likely to be returned now are flubs or squibs. This will likely stop teams from drafting McKelvin's & Roscoe's for their specialty and reduce the likelyhood of big comebacks in games where returns have traditionally helped turn the tide, IMO. <edit> I do like the TD replay amendment, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest three3 Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 exactly. every team with superstar kickoff returners should have voted against this. i think i'll be spending more of my discretionary income on mlb, nhl etc. football is going down the drain year by year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akm0404 Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) Roger Goodell is working hard to ruin the NFL with his incessant tinkering with the rules. He takes the helm of the greatest, most perfect sport ever, and in short order he has fudged around with just about everything. Sweet! Now nobody knows what a catch is, we play regular season games in multiple foreign countries, the personal conduct policy is applied using a dart board, defensive players have no clue how to hit legally and should probably just stop trying, and we have an overtime rule that has never been used, and when it happens, will be a total crapshoot figure-it-out-as-we-go debacle. Thanks Rog! Oh yeah, let's move to an 82 game schedule. Other leagues do that, and just think of all the $$$$$$$$$! Edited March 23, 2011 by akm0404 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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