balln Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 So I remember this guy two years ago, and wondered what happened to him. Per PFT, Mayock says he could go #1. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/mayock-combine-may-put-robert-quinn-in-mix-for-no-1-overall-pick/ And here is the impressive highlight vid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuKdkjZf5uk He looks great, big, fast, plays the run well, has some pass rush moves. This leaves Quinn, Fairley, or Newton in play at #3 - depending on who takes who ahead of the bills. Another good possibility is that the Bills will have leverage to trade (3 awesome talents). But I think they should take one of these 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It's still early. We have to wait for the combine but I think Quinn is going to move up the boards. He is already mentioned in the top 10 and the guy didn't even play any football last year. If his measureables match the tape and the press that I saw he will be highly sought after. Check the signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hes definitely a specimen. Anyone that is away from the game a year scares me a bit though. I prefer newton or fairley. Hoping either of them fall to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) quinn would have to really do some amazing things in the next month or so -- that said, if what he was doing as a sophomore is indicitive, its possible. at 265-270 lbs, already an nfl body his 4.38 being a full tenth and then some faster than peppers his deadlift breaking the unc record (ie also stronger than peppers) all at 19. i can only imagine what he could possibly do another year older, and another year removed from his brain surgery. i also love that he was a multi-time state champion wrestler in highschool, going like 80-0 at one point before (?) that surgery. obviously he gets things like leverage, and using his hands. not to mention coming back from a brain tumor surgery might be indicitive of him being able to stay productive away from the sports, instead of being a lazy bum on the couch during the year off. all depends how he spent the year off. he is one of few that will potentially move at the combine, as he didnt have film last year. Edited February 23, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coseybedaman Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 He is an absolute stud in my opinion, however I think #1 overall is just typical draft hype. He is going to be around when the Bills pick at #3, and I truly hope we grab him or go Cam Newton. I think either one helps us rebuild immediately. Also NoSaint, where did you see that 4.38 time? The fastest I've seen is 4.65 on him, which is still amazing for a man his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortured Soul Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Mayock does say he thinks his most natural position is at 4-3 DE, not 3-4 OLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 This guy is an unbelievable talent and in spite of concerns about him, I'd be fine if the Bills rolled the dice on him (yes, at #3). Gifted pass rushers like Quinn simply do not come out every year. He looks like Charles Haley to me. Off-the-charts athleticism, speed, quickness, power…the whole package. Mayock does say he thinks his most natural position is at 4-3 DE, not 3-4 OLB. Be that as it may, he would be so good as a 3-4 OLB or as an end backer in a hybrid that I wouldn't care if he could cover receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) He is an absolute stud in my opinion, however I think #1 overall is just typical draft hype. He is going to be around when the Bills pick at #3, and I truly hope we grab him or go Cam Newton. I think either one helps us rebuild immediately. Also NoSaint, where did you see that 4.38 time? The fastest I've seen is 4.65 on him, which is still amazing for a man his size. was a bleacher "article" -- ill see if i can find a better source, but an interesting read on him. obviously a unc/quinn homer, but that doesnt mean nothing can be taken from it http://bleacherreport.com/articles/425166-robert-quinn-the-monster-off-the-edge edit- yea, i can find a lot of discussion about it, but nothing "official." atleast if your looking for an esp article. its said the 4.6 was when he was 18 and still ramping up after the brain surgery. that he improved both those and in the spring post sophomore year he hit 4.38, and the lifting mark. if remotely true, the combine could be interesting. 4.38 would put him step for step with some of the quicker backs and receivers to run. depending on the game it could make him the fastest player on the field any given snap. especially if he has been working hard - might see better numbers yet. edit again - here we go - espn insider reference to his 4.38 http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog?name=nfl_draft&id=5372975&action=login&appRedirect=http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/blog%3fname%3dnfl_draft%26id%3d5372975 Edited February 23, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Quinn will wearing #99 in a Bills uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haplo848 Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Is it just me, or did he only seem to use speed going around the tackle to get his sacks in his highlight reel? I don't really want someone who will just try to run around the tackle all the time like Maybin and end up not doing anything ever. Hes definitely a specimen. Anyone that is away from the game a year scares me a bit though. I prefer newton or fairley. Hoping either of them fall to us. Also, does anyone here know why he missed last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I am kinda hoping someone drafts Cam in front of us so I will be rooting for Quinn......always liked him.... And with all due respect to Von Miller......he may end up being stud.....but Maybin will forever have me worried about undersized players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 (edited) Is it just me, or did he only seem to use speed going around the tackle to get his sacks in his highlight reel? I don't really want someone who will just try to run around the tackle all the time like Maybin and end up not doing anything ever. Also, does anyone here know why he missed last year? quinn ran a 4.38 maybin ran close to a 4.8... just a tiny shade under at the combine.... i think a 4.78-4.79, when he bulked up to 250. his speed and agility numbers were awful at 250. he ran about 4.6 when he ran at the school proday a few weeks later on a different track and a little lighter. robert quinns playing weight - 265-270 maybin was playing at or around 230-235? i think he was under 230 at the preseason weigh ins his sophomore year. not the same players. Edited February 23, 2011 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Is it just me, or did he only seem to use speed going around the tackle to get his sacks in his highlight reel? I don't really want someone who will just try to run around the tackle all the time like Maybin and end up not doing anything ever. Also, does anyone here know why he missed last year? Hey Haplo. Quinn uses his speed rush a lot because he's so successful with it, but I understand your concern. Derrick Thomas made a career out of beating blockers to the outside…he literally didn't have an inside counter move although he would stunt inside on two man games. Here's a two minute feature of Derrick Thomas (NFL Network's 10th best pass rusher of all time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-T371I-T2c&feature=related You'll see that of dozens of sacks shown, only a small handful were on inside rushes. Quinn looks like a Charles Haley, Derrick Thomas like talent. Even hypothetically if he never used anything but an outside rush, he would be so successful as to demand lots of double teams. And a defender who is consistently double teamed is always a victory for the defense. I'm seeing a lot of Maybin-induced concerns in discussions about Quinn and Von Miller. I understand those concerns but I think for some, they've grown into overblown phobias. Most great pass rushers base their success on the outside rush, and then build their technique off of that. Quinn and Miller are way beyond Maybin in terms of talent. They are both bigger, faster, more explosive, stronger, and have better instincts. In fact, it looks like Quinn and Miller both have great football instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pretzel logic Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 He appears to be the dominant pass rusher coming out for the 2011 NFL draft;however,coaches will breakdown full game films which may expose weakness not seen on highlight tape. The number one overall should be well rounded and balanced on and off the field. If Quinn can display solid(not amazing) run defense potential to Carolina, they may consider Quinn for their top pick in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 quinn ran a 4.38 maybin ran close to a 4.8... just a tiny shade under at the combine.... i think a 4.78-4.79, when he bulked up to 250. his speed and agility numbers were awful at 250. he ran about 4.6 when he ran at the school proday a few weeks later on a different track and a little lighter. robert quinns playing weight - 265-270 maybin was playing at or around 230-235? i think he was under 230 at the preseason weigh ins his sophomore year. not the same players. I absolutely love Quinn. I love the size, the speed. If he runs anywhere near a 4.38 at the combine he could very well go #1. Originally I wanted the bills to possibly trade down to 7 or 8 with some team that fell in love with Newton/Peterson & pick up an extra 2nd & still be able to grab Quinn, but I do not think he will be around past #5 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 He appears to be the dominant pass rusher coming out for the 2011 NFL draft;however,coaches will breakdown full game films which may expose weakness not seen on highlight tape. The number one overall should be well rounded and balanced on and off the field. If Quinn can display solid(not amazing) run defense potential to Carolina, they may consider Quinn for their top pick in 2012. i think you see even in the highlights, he is disciplined and does play the run honestly. theres a reason that he is a top 5 prospect without playing last year, and its not just that he gets around the outside. although that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbosrrgood Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Quinn is a beast, I would not be disappointed in this pick. Actually, I would much prefer him over Fairly. He makes Von Miller look like Van Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloATL Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 So I remember this guy two years ago, and wondered what happened to him. Per PFT, Mayock says he could go #1. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/mayock-combine-may-put-robert-quinn-in-mix-for-no-1-overall-pick/ And here is the impressive highlight vid. youtube.com/watch?v=UuKdkjZf5uk He looks great, big, fast, plays the run well, has some pass rush moves. This leaves Quinn, Fairley, or Newton in play at #3 - depending on who takes who ahead of the bills. Another good possibility is that the Bills will have leverage to trade (3 awesome talents). But I think they should take one of these 3. Love the highlights. There appears to be SOOOO much talent at the top of this draft. Please Buddy, PLEASE don't screw this pick up. There's like 6-10 different players that you can argue make sense to take at #3. many of them look like they can be beasts i nthe NFL. Please get this right and get one of those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I would love to see him and Merriman (healthy) on the field together next year. The run d would be impressive I think. The only concern at that point is if we can get an ilb or two that can cover, assuming these two may have some issues. The vid is impressive but I only saw 2 or 3 games there, most of it against uva. #67 took a beating in film review, that's for sure. The only thing with Quinn is the mental side, will he handle the money etc. If he can, I think he's a nice pick at 3 and looks like someone who can make some plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Love the highlights. There appears to be SOOOO much talent at the top of this draft. Please Buddy, PLEASE don't screw this pick up. There's like 6-10 different players that you can argue make sense to take at #3. many of them look like they can be beasts i nthe NFL. Please get this right and get one of those guys. You jus know itll be one of the CBs or Aaron Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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