Logical Reasoning Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 If we thought our young receiver was humbled last week, how about a guy who was a first round pick who has been inactive for the past five weeks. The Vikings line is depleted somewhat and you would assume that Maybin would like to treat his very bruised ego with some strong play and be more of an asset than a liability. Win or lose, his play in the next couple of weeks will design the roadmap for the rest of his career. With respect to his contract, I understand it had a signing bonus but it was strongly incentive based which he obviously has not drawn from. Who would shed a tear if we had to cut this guy? Poz, Whitner, Jackson (new agent), and/or Fitz who are looking for some new money would not mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Hope you're right...but he's shown me nothing to make me think this is possible. He has been active in the last five weeks (a little bit) but he's easy to miss. He looks like a gnat out there. Maybe he finds a niche role in his career but he is well on his way to not living up to his billing/draft slot. Not his fault but it stinks for us. Dude has way more 'healthy scratches' than good plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I consider Aaron Maybin to still be a boy and it would be stupid for the Bills to cut him after only two years. We won't see Maybin's true potential reached until year 3, 4 or 5. Can he get bigger and stronger and grow more mature as a person? These are the questions that Bills fans will have to wait on for another year or two. The worst thing the Bills could do is cut bait and watch a team like the Ravens or Steelers pick him up and turn him into a pass rushing monster. So lets let him grow up a little before we become officially through with him. Geez, look how long it took Ryan Fitzpatrick to lock into his position, what 6 years? Though I didn't like the pick, I still believe that Maybin has a long shot chance for a big pay off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I consider Aaron Maybin to still be a boy and it would be stupid for the Bills to cut him after only two years. We won't see Maybin's true potential reached until year 3, 4 or 5. Can he get bigger and stronger and grow more mature as a person? These are the questions that Bills fans will have to wait on for another year or two. The worst thing the Bills could do is cut bait and watch a team like the Ravens or Steelers pick him up and turn him into a pass rushing monster. So lets let him grow up a little before we become officially through with him. Geez, look how long it took Ryan Fitzpatrick to lock into his position, what 6 years? Though I didn't like the pick, I still believe that Maybin has a long shot chance for a big pay off. Absolutely correct. Maybin signed a 5-year $17M deal in 2009 with $15M guaranteed, and becomes a FA in 2015 - so don't expect a decent year 'til 2012 or 2013, when he'll want to renegotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Absolutely correct. Maybin signed a 5-year $17M deal in 2009 with $15M guaranteed, and becomes a FA in 2015 - so don't expect a decent year 'til 2012 or 2013, when he'll want to renegotiate. If I were Buddy Nix, I'm want to begin those negotiations right now. Perhaps they can start by asking him to hand back some of that $15M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VADC Bills Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Absolutely correct. Maybin signed a 5-year $17M deal in 2009 with $15M guaranteed, and becomes a FA in 2015 - so don't expect a decent year 'til 2012 or 2013, when he'll want to renegotiate. renegotiate...RENEGOTIATE???? Maybin should use his rookie salary and invest wisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 next year is the deciding year for maybin. spending the majority of his 2nd year inactive should motivate this kid to hit the weights hard this off season so he can fight the block next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I think he has to get at least one more off season - The Bills are not likely to do anything with him before the end of the 2011 preseason. Too much invested to simply dump him now. Gailey and Nix have shown the ability to cut people quickly I doubt they carry this guy into next season if he does not show the ability to play in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-zone Umpa Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 He may be overpaid in my proposed position but I think he could shovel the stands from here on out, clean up the lots after games, help sell Coors Light, or do the teams laundry. I must say he is the WORST draft pick in NFL history. I cannot think of any other 1st round blunder than him. Jauron should be seen by a psychiatrist. Brian Orakpo......OMFG......Brian Orakpo...............and we have Maybin walkin after every play like his lats dont allow his arms to fall. What a tool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I do agree that part of Maybin's problem (only part) is his physical development. We forget he was a junior when we drafted him. So he's that much more behind the curve than your typical drafted senior. No question the Bills f**ked up by drafting him, but if Nix or Gailey thought he was a total waste he'd be gone by now. (the same may be true of McCargo.) I think Maybin's true deadline is next yesr's camp, assuming there is one. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I watched Trent Cole of the Eagles on Thursday night. Same number, looks about the same size, same kind of player. Just not sure if that kind of player fits anywhere in the defense we're trying to run now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I consider Aaron Maybin to still be a boy and it would be stupid for the Bills to cut him after only two years. We won't see Maybin's true potential reached until year 3, 4 or 5. Can he get bigger and stronger and grow more mature as a person? These are the questions that Bills fans will have to wait on for another year or two. The worst thing the Bills could do is cut bait and watch a team like the Ravens or Steelers pick him up and turn him into a pass rushing monster. So lets let him grow up a little before we become officially through with him. Geez, look how long it took Ryan Fitzpatrick to lock into his position, what 6 years? Though I didn't like the pick, I still believe that Maybin has a long shot chance for a big pay off. He gained 25 lbs of muscle ("somehow") between the end of his college season and the combine. How much more muscle do you think he can naturally add? He's now working full time with pro football weight trainers and conditioning specialists. He's not going to get any bigger than he is. Give that up. Also, DE's don't take 4 or 5 yers to develop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpcolosi Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 He may be overpaid in my proposed position but I think he could shovel the stands from here on out, clean up the lots after games, help sell Coors Light, or do the teams laundry. I must say he is the WORST draft pick in NFL history. I cannot think of any other 1st round blunder than him. Jauron should be seen by a psychiatrist. Brian Orakpo......OMFG......Brian Orakpo...............and we have Maybin walkin after every play like his lats dont allow his arms to fall. What a tool! so true about his lats. does he just think he is big? his arms are skinny for an NFL linebacker... even by tamp 2 standards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 If we thought our young receiver was humbled last week, how about a guy who was a first round pick who has been inactive for the past five weeks. The Vikings line is depleted somewhat and you would assume that Maybin would like to treat his very bruised ego with some strong play and be more of an asset than a liability. Win or lose, his play in the next couple of weeks will design the roadmap for the rest of his career. With respect to his contract, I understand it had a signing bonus but it was strongly incentive based which he obviously has not drawn from. Who would shed a tear if we had to cut this guy? Poz, Whitner, Jackson (new agent), and/or Fitz who are looking for some new money would not mind. I would much rather trade him and get something back for our investment . We have just released players in the past or just let there contracts run out that we may have been able to get a little bit of something in return . I'm not sure who would be interested in him seeing as any one i've heard talk about him says he just can't play at this level but i hope we would not just let him walk like we did Derek Dockery when we could have worked a trade & gotten something for the investment . Maybe these last few games after sitting on his butt for so long will give him added incentive to play better than he has so there may be a bit of interest some where . Let's keep our fingers crossed , a 3rd or 4th round pick in trade would be better than nothing !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills99999 Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 If we thought our young receiver was humbled last week, how about a guy who was a first round pick who has been inactive for the past five weeks. The Vikings line is depleted somewhat and you would assume that Maybin would like to treat his very bruised ego with some strong play and be more of an asset than a liability. Win or lose, his play in the next couple of weeks will design the roadmap for the rest of his career. With respect to his contract, I understand it had a signing bonus but it was strongly incentive based which he obviously has not drawn from. Who would shed a tear if we had to cut this guy? Poz, Whitner, Jackson (new agent), and/or Fitz who are looking for some new money would not mind. Has the Arena 2 league folded yet? If not, Mayben would be a good fit there Not only is he small, but he is small He also lakes football instincts, so blindly running around a dry hockey rink would be great for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 I consider Aaron Maybin to still be a boy and it would be stupid for the Bills to cut him after only two years. We won't see Maybin's true potential reached until year 3, 4 or 5. Can he get bigger and stronger and grow more mature as a person? These are the questions that Bills fans will have to wait on for another year or two. The worst thing the Bills could do is cut bait and watch a team like the Ravens or Steelers pick him up and turn him into a pass rushing monster. So lets let him grow up a little before we become officially through with him. Geez, look how long it took Ryan Fitzpatrick to lock into his position, what 6 years? Though I didn't like the pick, I still believe that Maybin has a long shot chance for a big pay off. Yup. We're in a position we should never have been in..waiting forever for a top 10 draft pick to mature (if he even is going to) but just b/c we should never have been in this position anyway...doesn't mean we should just be stupid and cut him. We need a new DC for a variety of reasons. When they come in...make it clear to Maybin...change your body, change your mind, you have 1 year to show you are making substantial progress. Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 While there is the Maybin is still just a little kid argument, the rookie Arthur Moats has shown more development in the last few games than Maybin has shown in nearly 2 seasons. For those expecting him to explode out of a phone booth wearing tights and a cape in 2 or 3 more years, the issue is how this guy is suddenly going to start using proper techniques, along with his impending physical metamorphosis from a WR's body into a D-lineman, when he's shown so little ability to adapt and develop so far. A gratuitous Yogi-ism: "90% of the game is mental, the other half is physical." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Put up or shut up for Maybin Put up or and shut up for Maybin. Just my preference. kj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmohawk Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 Speed / Jimmy Johnson. : Maybin / Quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 (edited) If we thought our young receiver was humbled last week, how about a guy who was a first round pick who has been inactive for the past five weeks. The Vikings line is depleted somewhat and you would assume that Maybin would like to treat his very bruised ego with some strong play and be more of an asset than a liability. Win or lose, his play in the next couple of weeks will design the roadmap for the rest of his career. With respect to his contract, I understand it had a signing bonus but it was strongly incentive based which he obviously has not drawn from. Who would shed a tear if we had to cut this guy? Poz, Whitner, Jackson (new agent), and/or Fitz who are looking for some new money would not mind. Maybin contract: 8/21/2009: Signed a five-year, $17.6 million contract. The deal includes $15 million guaranteed. Another $7.4 million is available through incentives based on playing time and sacks. 2010: $395,000, 2011: $757,500, 2012: $1.12 million, 2013: $1.4825 million, 2014: $1.5 million, 2015: Free Agent http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=NFL&id=5177 He's guaranteed 15 million, meaning a small amount over the next 4 years would be saved. Wouldn't put a dent in resigning any of the guys you listed. If they're going to cut him it's because they feel he's tapped out his potential and the roster spot is better used by someone else. Not to save money. Edited December 4, 2010 by Ghost of Rob Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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