cage Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who would have thought that after 10 weeks... Bills fans would be a more optimistic bunch than fans of the Cowboys, Vikings and 49ers, all forecast as playoff teams... WOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who would have thought that after 10 weeks... Bills fans would be a more optimistic bunch than fans of the Cowboys, Vikings and 49ers, all forecast as playoff teams... WOW! Are you suggesting the media experts were wrong? Blasphemy! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ 'Em Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yeah how about we throw Marvin lewis in that bunch of names. How does his team suck so bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who would have thought that after 10 weeks... Bills fans would be a more optimistic bunch than fans of the Cowboys, Vikings and 49ers, all forecast as playoff teams... WOW! Who'da thunk TSW would go from non-stop, rampant negativity to raging optimism is 24 hours? Must be something that happened - as I've said, Bills fans are a fickle bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Who'da thunk TSW would go from non-stop, rampant negativity to raging optimism is 24 hours? Must be something that happened - as I've said, Bills fans are a fickle bunch. All fans are fickle. A few weeks ago everyone here in Philly wanted Reid fired. Now their in 1st and a SB contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 (edited) Who'da thunk TSW would go from non-stop, rampant negativity to raging optimism is 24 hours? Must be something that happened yesterday - as I've said, Bills fans are a fickle bunch. What are you talking about? We don't have a bona fide #1 QB We don't have a bona fide #1 WR We don't have a bona fide #1 TE Maybin is a total bust Kelsay doesn't earn his keep The OL is full of smoke and mirrors We lost out on the #1 pick in the draft Ralph's cheap Nix is clueless And, the smileys don't work right. lol PS - note the craptacular post directly below. Edited November 22, 2010 by Nanker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 its nice going into a season with low expectations and then have the bills deliver exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I wonder why Chan's job is secure if those guys are getting fired with similar records... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 What are you talking about? We don't have a bona fide #1 QB We don't have a bona fide #1 WR We don't have a bona fide #1 TE Maybin is a total bust Kelsay doesn't earn his keep The OL is full of smoke and mirrors We lost out on the #1 pick in the draft Ralph's cheap Nix is clueless And, the smileys don't work right. lol PS - note the craptacular post directly below. We're going to find out in the Steelers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 I wonder why Chan's job is secure if those guys are getting fired with similar records... Is this a serious post? Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that Phillips and Childress had several years to implement their system and failed, whereas Gailey is arguably overachieving with the scraps left behind by Jauron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Is this a serious post? Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that Phillips and Childress had several years to implement their system and failed, whereas Gailey is arguably overachieving with the scraps left behind by Jauron? That said, I think it's an interesting state of the sport when a coach takes his team to within one game of the Super Bowl, only to be fired half way through the following season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 That said, I think it's an interesting state of the sport when a coach takes his team to within one game of the Super Bowl, only to be fired half way through the following season. Agreed, though I think this was a unique circumstance in regards to Chilly. According to most sources, he had completely lost control of his team. When that happens, there's only one solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Is this a serious post? Do you think it might have something to do with the fact that Phillips and Childress had several years to implement their system and failed, whereas Gailey is arguably overachieving with the scraps left behind by Jauron? Jauron got more wins out of those scraps. Chan has gotten more effort and emotion from those scraps. Everyone seems very happy with Chan, even though we are doing worse. A lot of us expected to improve on our last couple seasons, not get worse. BUT, that being said... We seem to be turning around. So maybe its a "we'll get worse before we get better" thing. Either way, I agree, he needs time... but the excuse of having the players that Jauron had, isn't really one that makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWings Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Jauron got more wins out of those scraps. Chan has gotten more effort and emotion from those scraps. Everyone seems very happy with Chan, even though we are doing worse. A lot of us expected to improve on our last couple seasons, not get worse. BUT, that being said... We seem to be turning around. So maybe its a "we'll get worse before we get better" thing. Either way, I agree, he needs time... but the excuse of having the players that Jauron had, isn't really one that makes sense to me. They won those games despite Jauron. When you implement a brand new system on offense AND defense, it doesn't sink in by Week 3. So, it has to be a "we'll get worse before we get better" thing. I admit that I was optimistic before Week 1 and naive to think that this team will finally turn around right away. But when you have time to look back at 10 games and realize what seemed to happen, it makes more sense that it took this long (presuming they're on the right track). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Agreed, though I think this was a unique circumstance in regards to Chilly. According to most sources, he had completely lost control of his team. When that happens, there's only one solution. Okay, look, people need to drop this "Chilly" stuff. It sounds stupid. In fact, the only way to make it sound less stupid is to report that his firing was announced during a Vikings presser on Chilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityCheck Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Jauron got more wins out of those scraps. Chan has gotten more effort and emotion from those scraps. Everyone seems very happy with Chan, even though we are doing worse. A lot of us expected to improve on our last couple seasons, not get worse. BUT, that being said... We seem to be turning around. So maybe its a "we'll get worse before we get better" thing. Either way, I agree, he needs time... but the excuse of having the players that Jauron had, isn't really one that makes sense to me. Our offense now compared to Jauron's is night and day. As far as defense goes, we went from a vanilla soft zone, undersized Tampa 2 to a defense that plays much more man coverage and requires more physically powerful men up front than what we had. If you've paid attention a lot more is being asked of the players on D than previous. Man coverage and bump'n run are where our DBs are getting beat bad. A far different set of skills than what was required playing 10 yards off in zone even when we blitzed. The Giants game last night is a good example of the previous philosophy of playing a mile off even when you send the house on a blitz. This year is a whole new world for our secondary. Byrd is a good example of a player that played fairly well as a rookie in zone coverage almost exclusively just to struggle now when he has to do man coverage. When your singled up you don't get to sit back and watch the QB's eyes to try to jump a route. Let's not forget that even though they play more 4-3 now that it's still a 2 gap system that they are playing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Jauron got more wins out of those scraps. Chan has gotten more effort and emotion from those scraps. Everyone seems very happy with Chan, even though we are doing worse. A lot of us expected to improve on our last couple seasons, not get worse. BUT, that being said... We seem to be turning around. So maybe its a "we'll get worse before we get better" thing. Either way, I agree, he needs time... but the excuse of having the players that Jauron had, isn't really one that makes sense to me. Its also Gailey's first year. Baring player revolution you always give a guy 2 seasons before you fire him. Gailey has progressed this team because the offense can score (Steve Johnson and Fitz's development are key plus improved play from the O-line helps) and they are instilling a new defensive scheme (With not much success but they are still switching schemes). So yeah the record isn't pretty but if you watch the team its a lot better then it seems. All in all Gailey needs to make this team play well down the stretch and have a good draft and he will set this team up for success next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i would take singletary to run our defense in a heartbeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 i would take singletary to run our defense in a heartbeat You and every other team that runs the 3-4 without a coach named Lebeau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cage Posted November 22, 2010 Author Share Posted November 22, 2010 i would take singletary to run our defense in a heartbeat AMEN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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