Chuckknox Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Chuck, Free agency hasn't started, the draft isn't here and its a bit premature for trades. Hang tight. I'm sure there's a plan, it just doesn't happen to include previous regime holdovers like wendling, jenkins, ownes, reed, denney etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 ? What payroll has been reduced? They cut a bunch of guys that were on their rookie salaries and announced that three overpaid vets won't be coming back. The only unrestricted guy worth anything is Scott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBeane Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 That's all you're going to see until March 5th my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Riiiiigghhtttt...because The Wall wouldn't implode if we re-signed Ryan Denney...a player who doesn't fit the new system in any way and has been painfully average his entire career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Riiiiigghhtttt...because The Wall wouldn't implode if we re-signed Ryan Denney...a player who doesn't fit the new system in any way and has been painfully average his entire career. And WAY overpaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YardRat Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Getting rid of the excess/underachievers/odd men out due to system changes at this point is a good sign. Indicates to me they know what they want, need, and doesn't currently fit. Gotta go 'out with the old' before 'in with the new'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Riiiiigghhtttt...because The Wall wouldn't implode if we re-signed Ryan Denney...a player who doesn't fit the new system in any way and has been painfully average his entire career. Denney is the same guy that people here were giving virtual fallatio to Tom Donahoe over for trading up and nabbing just before the Steelers, who were and are a 3-4 defense, could draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Denney is the same guy that people here were giving virtual fallatio to Tom Donahoe over for trading up and nabbing just before the Steelers, who were and are a 3-4 defense, could draft. Yes, and he wasn't overpaid IMHO. Kelsay on the other hand was given an outrageous contract and he wasn't a nickel's worth better a DE than Denny IMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 and has been painfully average his entire career. Not even average, but he was painful to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I gotta ask - why do people care about what players are paid when making an evaluation of them? It's completely irrelevant given the Bills cap situation. They're way under it, and have been so for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 ? Very enlightening. Keep up the good work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartacus Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Getting rid of the excess/underachievers/odd men out due to system changes at this point is a good sign. Indicates to me they know what they want, need, and doesn't currently fit. Gotta go 'out with the old' before 'in with the new'. you can add Schobel, Kelsey, Stroud and Whitner to the overpaid and underperformers who will be cut loose to slash costs. Payroll will be cut to around $75 mil with no minimum in 2010 as Ralph builds his war chest. The payroll purge started last year with the gutting of costs on the OL (dockery, Peters, Walker) with nothing spent to replace them. Starting an injured 7th rounder at LT and bringing back a guy so bad the Bills cut him to start at RT is an indication of the kind of commitment you will see in 2010 to replace the bloated contracts cut loose. With a lockout coming in 2011, don't expect any good free agents to be brought in. Gailey and his teachers were brought in to coach the young, cheap (and not very good) players that will populate this team in 2010. Nix better not miss on any draft picks this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsObserver Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Chuckknox, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 Yes, and he wasn't overpaid IMHO. Kelsay on the other hand was given an outrageous contract and he wasn't a nickel's worth better a DE than Denny IMV. ......to this, I couldn't agree more. Denney at least understood how to defend the run game, much better than Kelsay, and given his snaps vs. those Kelsay had, I'd say he was more effective pass rusher as well. Kelsy is the the overpaid mediocre DE on The Bills that needed to go..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 step 2 is to use that saved money to bribe the refs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 I gotta ask - why do people care about what players are paid when making an evaluation of them? It's completely irrelevant given the Bills cap situation. They're way under it, and have been so for years. While the Bills may be way under the cap, the reality is that they are one of the low-revenue teams and they have a budget that they can/are willing to spend. Letting some older higher-paid players go frees up money that they can spend elsewhere. Just because the Bills are allowed to spend up to the cap, doesn't mean that they have the money to actually be able to afford that much. That being said, the FA crop is very weak this year (IMHO) due to many many players being restricted who would have been unrestricted had there been a collective bargaining agreement reached. I do not expect the Bills to be able to compete for the very few high-end FAs. Given what is available as unrestricted FAs, I wouldn't count on the Bills being able to find much besides hopefully serviceable players - no stars in FA this year. While I am at it, I thought that Ryan Denney was a pretty good backup DE. He certainly didn't embarrass himself when he was on the field. However, he is 33 and this is probably the end of the line for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 you can add Schobel, Kelsey, Stroud and Whitner to the overpaid and underperformers who will be cut loose to slash costs.Payroll will be cut to around $75 mil with no minimum in 2010 as Ralph builds his war chest estate. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 step 2 is to use that saved money to bribe the refs. Taking a page from the Pats*' playbook, eh? (Not quite sure if the apostrophe goes before or after the asterisk--any Pats* fans want to enlighten me on that rule of spelling?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted February 28, 2010 Share Posted February 28, 2010 ? What do you expect them to do right now? sign Matt Jone or Pacman Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 Panic much? Look out the window. The sun went out! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kultarr Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I gotta ask - why do people care about what players are paid when making an evaluation of them? It's completely irrelevant given the Bills cap situation. They're way under it, and have been so for years. And the corollary to that is it isn't the player's decision to be given the contract the Bills gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 ? I agree! Why the hell haven't the Bills figured out how to draft players before the draft starts, and sign FAs before FA starts? They suck! Great post, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I agree! Why the hell haven't the Bills figured out how to draft players before the draft starts, and sign FAs before FA starts? They suck! Great post, BTW. I thought the new regime was all over it because they haven't signed any FAs or drafted anyone yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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