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There was a weekly “this guy isn’t that bad I swear” report on Edmunds for the last couple years. After watching him whiff yesterday, I’m not sure if he got benched or what, but I’d love to hear some breakdown of the former “ProBowler” and his level of play in a Bears uni.

I have watched Dorian Williams play the last 2 games and have come away really impressed with this kid...the dude is all over the place...yes in the Jags game maybe he was a little TOO "all over the place" as he overran some runs, but he also had some fantastically athletic pass breakups too. Last game was much better and he shed blocks a few times to make tackles for short gains better than I ever remember seeing Edmunds do. I strongly believe that by the end of the year Bernard/Williams will be better than Edmunds/Milano last year as a tandem on the field, once Williams gains experience. That being said, I still think Bernard/Milano would be the best combo for them...Milano is just so good, it's crazy. Dude does everything well. I just think Williams is a better fit for what the Bills are trying to do on a down to down basis than Edmunds was and will prove to be even better once he gets more reps and experience as the season moves on. Bernard is already Milano "Lite" and has been nothing short of remarkable for us. Thoughts on this? I know it's a little bit of speculation and some high praise for Williams who we haven't seen enough of, but I think this kid has it at LB.

Said this when he signed with bears and I will say it again now. Edmunds while frustrating sometimes made this defense what it was. Hyde and poyer looked slow out there. Mark my words we will get torched over the middle this year when not playing Zack Wilson, and give up many long runs.

Interesting to get an outsiders viewpoint:

Another thread on the most polarizing guy in Buffalo 🤯 I tried to search but the top 3 thread results were all locked so, I don’t know merge this with another one if there’s an active one I missed? What are we predicting for Edmunds in 2022? Get your thoughts on record now! Stats are hard for linebackers (and defensive players in general) so I’ll steer clear of hard stat predictions, but I’m definitely in the breakout bandwagon. A stud that completely locks down the middle of the field and leads a top 5 defense. Dare I say, all-pro? I’m hoping Beane resigns him before the regular season starts to something like 4yr/$60M before the price skyrockets to 5yr/$85M after he cements himself as a top 5 linebacker in the league. What does TBD predict for Edmunds in 2022? Get your future bragging rights — and cold takes — on paper now before the season starts!

Linebacker is a need. But just how BIG of a need remains to be seen and I am guessing that most would agree that Tremaine is at the center of that discussion. So? A few questions from me to you. What happened to Tremaine? Why hasn't he really held up to his first round grade? Can he rebound? What are the chances? Will money motivate him as he finishes up his current contract? Any insights on what Beane and the Bills brass think about Tremaine and his future in Buffalo? Could Tremaine be used as trade bait on draft day? Or before? This draft is fairly deep in LB talent, even on day 3. Should we move on or put our faith in Tremaine?

I’ve got nothing. Just thought we could use a “hear me out” thread on Edmunds, to go with the two other Edmunds front page threads. After all…it is the slowest month of the NFL calendar. So who has some “hear me out” thoughts on the most polarizing player on the roster?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjyNXYJVBJY Joe Marino gets into some depth about Edmunds. If you don't listen to "Locked on Bills," you should give it a try.

I am in the group who wants him gone for a second round pick, but with all the pieces we’ve acquired what would be the point? He can still play a vital role on this defense and why lose that when you also have a full set of picks in the draft.

Between the contracts and money handed out this offseason, Poyer changing agents and very polarizing opinions on Edmunds this is starting to become a pretty hot topic on Twitter. Right now according to Over The Cap, the Bills are projected to have around $21,868,000 in 2023 Cap Space. With that cap space, Jordan Poyer, Tremaine Edmunds, Ed Oliver, Dawson Knox and Devin Singletary will all be due extensions. The Spotrac market value numbers are as follows, Jordan Poyer: 2yrs/$23M Tremaine Edmunds: 4yrs/$55M Dawson Knox: 3yrs/$25M Ed Oliver: $10M-$15M per year Devin Singletary: $4M-$8M per year Oliver & Singletary didn’t have market values yet, so just rough guesstimates for them two. With that being said, Beane can easily clear more space next year by restructuring bonuses for Allen, Miller and Diggs, among the other magic he works. Assuming Beane can only extend 3 of these guys, as that seems like the logical number with the projected cap space and cap hits, who does TBD think it would be? My own take, and I suppose part of the motivation in creating this thread, would be a hot take for most in that Edmunds gets his extension before/rather than Knox getting an extension. I think Ed Oliver is the only lock on the list for the extension and Beane has come close to saying so himself. As for Poyer, I think he’s an integral part of the defense and there’s only noise right now because he switched his agent (and a particularly noisy sidekick acting as she does). He’s coming off of an all-pro year, and a $12M/year contract on a short term deal shouldn’t price Beane out of a top 3 safety tandem in the league. As for Edmunds, I’m an Edmunds truther (apologist?). Believe it or not, he’s only 23 years old going into his 5th season! 😆 But jokes aside, NFL execs love him for a reason. He’s fast, lengthy and just starting to come into his own. If Beane could make the numbers for Knox work, I’m not here to say that Knox won’t get extended. But with the Bills projected to be tight to the cap, I just don’t see how Knox works in with the numbers. In my scenario, between Poyer, Edmunds and Oliver you’re looking at about $35M-$40M of extension money and maybe more. Knox had a good development year, but it was just that, a good development year. I think fans have taken a 9 TD season and some big plays in big moments, and started to convince themselves he’s a cornerstone and vital piece of the offense. In reality, he only had 49 receptions (18th among TE’s) and 587 yards (15th). He’s just an average tight end in a WR-driven offense. What say you, TBD?

I looked but didn't see a Tremaine Edmunds thread. Well, one that was locked. I was at the game and have had the benefit of no real discussion of the game. All I knew at the game was that every time I looked, Edmunds was making another tackle. Not always picture book, but he wasn't missing many. And his tackles generally were near the line of scrimmage. And he had a pass break up that nearly was intercepted. What is interesting about Edmunds this season is that he's making good stops in the run game, because he isn't being blocked. The D line, I think, is making it tough for offensive linemen to get to the linebacker level, and Edmunds is able to read and react. He's been a sure tackler, and his pas coverage last night also seemed solid. Milano makes more spectacular plays, but I think Edmunds may have had more impact on the defense. He's not Roquan Smith; he's not plugging gaps and making a bunch of tackles that way. He really is protecting the whole field, laterally. His job is make sure that the Bills bend but don't break. 16 tackles is nothing to sneer at, even if it happened because the Packers featured the run. Yes, the Packers had a lot of statistical success running the ball, but the Bills are willing to give them that success. I know that sounds stupid, and McDermott would never say it, but let's face it: This team is built to say the opponent, "We're going to put up 28 or more - we challenge you to match it." Their defensive style very much is, "If you're going to move the ball, you're going to do it only with long, sustained drives. If you can do that, you'll get some scores against us, but we don't think you can do that and get to 28." And that is exactly what happened last night. The way that kind of defensive philosophy succeeds is that you make a lot tackles (notice that the Bills often lose time of possession and often have fewer plays than the opponent, which means the Bills are making a lot tackles). Last night, those tackles came to Edmunds. I don't know what I missed about his performance, and I'll be happy to hear what others thought.

TV coverage showed an angle with Edmunds down on the ground, and clearly solely possessing the ball. The reactions of the officials was bizarre - almost like they were peeling off players from a post-fumble scrum. Why did the off-field replay officials not call in? https://operations.nfl.com/officiating/instant-replay/replay-assistance-rule/

OK....I TOTALLY get that some people aren't so happy with Edmunds past performances. However this year and yes tonight after being out for 2 games the kid stepped up and had some actually awesome stops! Please point out the horrific plays tonight cuz I sure didn't see them. The dude is gonna get paid and right now he is deserving......sorry Edmunds haters but he is and kinda has been damn good......even tho he doesn't fit YOUR mold. Sorry.

This seemed like an ideal spot to bring White back - now wishing we would have IR'ed him after activating him for a day.

I am a little surprised that this piece hasn’t generated a thread, so here goes: https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/inside-the-bills-a-remarkable-advanced-stat-shows-tremaine-edmunds-growth-this-season/article_817e855c-88ab-11ed-8c2e-77dd12191e72.html. Lots of interesting stuff in here.

Title says it all. Recently many posters changed their mind and now want to extend Tremaine Edmunds. If you are in this group (or wanted to extend him even before), how far would you go? How much is he worth? Other names are for refence only, they might not be that relevant since those contracts are for different number of years and were signed in different times. Other linebackers (not able to remove edge rushing OLBs): https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/sort-value/linebacker/limit-100/ Bills 2023 cap situation: https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2023/

For whatever reason, I feel "safer" with Klein playing MLB. He's slower but experienced. He makes plays with his mind. So glad he is back!

Damn...Tremaine could be the next Bob Ross??

Flame away

I know some here would say this is crazy.. But please remember this guy was the consensus top linebacker in his draft class. He had a great rookie season and then got hurt. A natural leader and great instincts. A change of scenery could do this former first rounder well. Tuff against the run and great blitzer. Sheds blockers way better than Edmunds ever did. What do y’all think.

Bills sign former Patriot LB, Tedy Bruschi. 1 year 80 million guaranteed! SuperBowl Baby!!! j/k

The first Chapter of the Josh Allen era had some great successes, annual playoff appearances, a championship appearance, and some moments of dominance. The defining feature of the rest of the team was the emphasis on the Frazier-Edmunds defense scheme. This chapter is completly closed with today's signing of Edmunds by the Bears. As we being Josh Allen Era - Chapter 2, what will be the Bills primary emphasis be to get better results in Chapter 2, than Chapter 1. I was not a huge Frazier or Edmunds fan, but they provided the teams most recognizable elements (aside from Josh himself) ?

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1635369822732300290?s=46&t=RLsRhQJBb5vROsgfJWkwSw

Both Brian Urlacher, the Bears HOF middle linebacker and Tremaine Edmunds were coached by Bob Babich who retired last year as the Bills' LB coach. Edmunds plays the same role as Urlacher did in the Cover 2 defense. They both can cover the hole in the middle between the two deep safeties.