Big Turk

That's fair, but I think it's pretty clear with all of the comments coming from all sides before the season and during training camp that has been a HUGE area of emphasis and they likely have not figured out a way to compensate properly for it. He is SCARED to run now...or at the very least discouraged from running. Those throws downfield while he is on the run outside of the pocket he used to make all the time? They aren't there because defenders don't respect him running anymore and don't think he is going to do it...they just turn and run with the receivers now and force much tighter window throws. A few runs on those early in the game would loosen all of that up. Yes...D is allowing too many long drives and too many 3rd down conversions. They do well getting teams to 3rd downs but not getting off the field which is hurting them more than if they would let teams get 1st downs quicker and then force FG's later in the drives. Basically when the D is playing OK in the 1st half, the O is sucking and when the O starts playing good in the 2nd half, the D starts sucking. They need to get in sync as a team and play complimentary football... When you hear McD say they aren't playing complimentary football, this is what he means...when the O is playing well, the D isn't getting them the ball back and when the D is playing well and getting the ball back for Allen and company on offense, they are going 3 and out too much. Need to start feeding off each other. Both sides have been disjointed the last few weeks.

Allen still doesn't have a game with 8 rushes this year...last year by this time he has 4 of those, including 3 with double digit rushes. Yesterday was the most he has ran this year with 7 rushes and 3 of those were sneaks, and another was on the last lateral play. Those aren't really runs. Out of Allen's 29 rushes this year, how many are sneaks? 8 or 9? Plus that lateral run? This means he has been running BY FAR at career low numbers this year. Him with under 3 true rushes/scrambles a game IS A PROBLEM for both him and the offense.

The failed experiment to turn Allen into a Herbert clone ends and we see Allen going back to playing the way he did last year and throughout his career in terms of running when he needs to.

Sam Laporta? Allen's history of a QB with major accuracy/completion percentage problems being fixed IS a first.

But again...on 2 of those long passes, Allen had huge areas of green to pick up first downs in front of him and wouldn't take them instead forcing the ball downfield.

They will turn Allen lose at some point and reign terror on defenses like in 2021

In the first half yes, 2nd half not so much.

I didn't say that...someone else said that. 1 issue on one play, a different issue on another play, and a 3rd issue on another play can look like it's a huge problem. But it's not that big, it comes down to one missed assignment derailing one play, another missed assignment by a single person another, etc. That's stuff that usually gets cleaned up pretty quickly. History is whatever...Josh Allen had history against him too.

Bills simply need to start faster in the 1st half and a lot of this goes away. The last 9 "real" possessions in the 2nd half of the last 3 games? 7 TDs, 1 missed FG, 1 turnover on downs after gaining 42 yards and going for it on 4th down in NE territory. That's high level production. If anything, the D not giving them more opportunities in the 2nd half and allowing far too many long drives is killing them. If the D gets a stop or 2 in any of those games, the Bills win going away. Simply need to get this going earlier and stop trying to force Allen to be a Herbert clone.

I don't think they have a lot of fundamental problems. I think there are some things going wrong that make it look like that. The first half is the issue. The second half in the last 2 games, the offense has scored 5 TDs, missed a FG and turned it over on downs after picking up 42 yards on 7 "real" possessions(not counting the one with 12 seconds yesterday at the end). That's pretty freaking good production, and begs the question why isn't this happening in the first half?

Offense looked like crap again in the first half. Allen throws a pick on the first play from scrimmage. Pats lead 10-0 after the Bills ran a single offensive play(they got a FG on their opening drive). Bills kicked into gear in the 2nd half but Pats looked like they were going to seal the game when they scored another TD to make it 22-10, Mac Jones tried a QB tush push but was stopped on the play from the 1/2 yard line after 2 penalties on the Bills on consecutive plays and the 2 point conversion failed. Allen then started coming alive and Diggs made a tremendous TD again pulling away from 2 defenders near the 10 yard line after making a sliding grab and popping back up before being touched. Poyer punched the ball out after a Bourne catch early in the Pats next drive and Bernard recovered inside the Pats 35 yard line. A few plays later, Allen got in from the 1/2 yard line on 2 tush pushes. Bills convert a 2 point conversion to take a 25-22 lead within 2 minutes(Like 1:48 left or something). Pats get the ball on their own 25 and on the first play Jones throws a swing pass to Stephenson that catches the D in a blitz and it goes for 38 yards down the sideline...flag on the play showed Patriot lineman 5 yards downfield before the pass was thrown, but inexplicably the refs huddled and picked up the flag allowing it to stand. Bills kept allowing bullcrap nickel and dime passes to garbage receivers before the Pats finally threw a 1 yard TD to Giesicki with 12 seconds left. Game, set, match. Allen made a phenomenal throw to around the Pats 30 yard line on the first play of the final drive on a rope and Diggs made a diving attempt, had it, but the ball popped loose as he went to the ground...would have set up a final play from the Pats 30 with 5 seconds left as the Bills had a TO in their pocket. Instead the final play Allen tries to run and then failed with the lateral backwards and the game ends.

Ironically, this is kinda similar to what happened in Daboll's second year when they ended up 7-6...then they basically unleashed Allen the rest of the year and turned into a buzzsaw going into the playoffs.

Let Allen play like himself and not some Herbert Clone who never wants to use his legs anymore to pick up chunks.

21 days ago you would have said the opposite. 21 days from now, you again might be saying the opposite. Teams ebb and flow throughout the season. Stop putting so much stock into a game or two in your comparisons.

No, he is trying to force him into being Justin Herbert...extend plays outside the pocket but only run as a last resort, waiting until the last minute instead to try and throw balls downfield. Brady probably wasn't outside the pocket as much as Allen was last game in an entire season...that's a bad comparison. The issue is, defenders and DC's have noticed and they don't bother trying to rush up to stop Allen from running anymore because they don't think he will since he hasn't shown them he will in games this year. They have made themselves much easier to defend. Now instead of huge voids Allen has to throw to as defenders run up to try and stop his running, the receivers are plastered and Allen is reluctant to take off running, much like Herbert is. It needs to change if they want to go back to being who they are. Allen cannot play like Herbert and be as effective being someone else the way he can being himself.

He is trying to force Allen to be a Justin Herbert clone and it's neutering their offense. They are doing it to themselves. Teams are not respecting Allen's ability to pick up yards outside the pocket with his legs because like Herbert, Allen is trying to do anything but take off running, instead waiting too long many times to throw low percentage passes downfield to plastered receivers, precisely because he isn't forcing them to stay honest and respect his running where they feel the need to stop him from picking up 15 yards and an easy first down and leave the receiver open. Last year Allen had 70 more rushing attempts than Herbert(124 to 54). This year, he has 1 more rushing attempt than Herbert, and if he would have gotten in on the first QB sneak at the goalline yesterday or not taken off on the final lateral play, it would be the same. That's not acceptable. He is playing someone else's game and not his own. Mahomes had 66 rushes last year, this year he has 33, more than Allen. Lawrence has 41. Pickett had 14!! in one game yesterday. Let's not even get into Jackson and Hurts. If Dorsey wants to fix the offense, they need to let Allen start playing like Allen again and not some Justin Herbert clone.

OTHER: Trying to turn Allen into a Justin Herbert clone where he extends plays out of the pocket but never wants to actually run, hoping to throw the ball downfield instead. Teams are not respecting Allen's threat to run in these situations anymore and instead plastering the receivers downfield, making the throws harder and harder to fit in. And worst of all, the Bills are doing it to themselves. I promise you if we see a gameplan where Allen starts running more, especially out of the pocket, all of a sudden everything will open up again. Bills are making themselves easy to defend. Last year Allen had 70 more rushing attempts than Herbert did on the season(124 to 54). This year he has 1 more rushing attempt than Herbert does(29 to 28). They have literally cut off their nose to spite their face on offense and trying to make Allen into someone else.

Even muddle huddle would work where they simply get on the ball and force the D to keep the same personnel on the field once they get what they want. Much more likely to have that happen with him in the pocket.

None...open up the offense by allowing Allen to play his game and stop trying to make him Justin Herbert.

Allen is trying to become Herbert instead of playing his game, he is trying to play Herbert's game. Extend plays outside the pocket but only run as a last resort. That's not him. Allen ran 124 times last year, Herbert ran 54. This year Allen has ran 29 times, Herbert 28. That's a problem. Teams are not coming up to try and prevent Allen from taking off much because they don't respect that part of his game anymore because he hasn't MADE THEM respect it. They are simply giving him those areas to run and covering the receivers and he still won't take it now. Or waits until it's too late and tries to chuck up a pass with a super low completion chance when he runs out of room or a defender closes in. Allen needs to stop trying to play like Herbert and go back to playing like Allen.

My issue is Allen is trying to become Herbert...extend plays and throw downfield but only run as a last resort. That ISN'T his game! Herbert has 28 rushes this year, Allen 29. Last year Herbert had 54 for the season, Allen 124. This is an issue! Allen needs to play his game more...he isn't threatening the D with his legs anymore on those rollouts so they are staying back more and covering the receivers downfield since they know he wants to throw not run...he needs to keep them honest in that way to open that back up again.

He has been playing far more like Herbert this year where he is trying to extend plays far too long to throw downfield versus just taking off when he has the chance. Herbert had 54 rushes last year, Allen had 124. This year Allen has 29 and Herbert 28. Allen is trying to play someone else's game instead of his own. Even Mahomes and Lawrence have more rushes than Allen this year...Pickett had almost half as many rushes in 1 game yesterday with 14 than Allen does on the entire season. Allen is not threatening the D enough with his legs and they aren't respecting that part of the game so they are sticking with receivers more downfield because they know he wants to throw, not run...they aren't coming up at all anymore and it's making the windows much tighter. Run more!

Does Hurts seem afraid to run? Mahomes? Jackson? Even Lawrence and Herbert have been using their legs. Pickett with the Steelers ran 14 times yesterday for God's Sake. Mahomes is running more than ever this year No, all of them are running frequently. Only Allen suddenly needs to be afraid to take off and he is bigger and stronger than all of them. Last year Allen had 124 rushes, Mahomes had 66. This year Mahomes has 33 and Allen has 29. Allen has gone from running twice as much almost to less than Mahomes. That's a problem. Hurts and Jackson have 69+ rushes each so far this year. Lawrence even has 41...Allen only has 1 more than Justin Herbert who NEVER tries to run and always is looking to throw downfield...Herbert finished with 54 last season. This is a PROBLEM. Allen is not running nearly AT ALL in comparison to last year and players who should be half or less than what he has in rushing attempts are above him this year or right with him.

They have taken the fun out of the game for Allen...he wants to play loose and let it all hang out and he is being coached to be way more conservative. Let the man play...at least a little bit. You have to give him some of that every game, not only for him, but for the offense to be as effective as it can be.

I think they are related honestly. He is almost coached to the point where he is scared to take off when it's there and tries to sit back and let something develop. Mahomes has gone in completely the other direction...if it's not there he is gone from the pocket and has been running more than he ever has this year to pick up chunks with his legs.