KOKBILLS

Exactly...

We'll see...Should be interesting...I have this inclination to believe not picking up the option will automatically mean they are moving on...But who knows?

Meh...I don't care what he said surrounded by his new owner/boss and Brandon...I don't believe all of it...The same way I did not believe all of it when he talked about Shaq's shoulder...He's a company man first and foremost...And a good one at that...He gains nothing by showing anything other than a unified front... Don't get me wrong, I don't think he was vocally against it at all either...That would be a stupid career move and Whaley's not an idiot...I just think if it was his decision, and his alone, no way Rex is here...There was some seriously shaky logic in the Rex hire from a football standpoint...Especially concerning the differences in the solid Defense Whaley had built, and the one Rex likes to run...And Doug is a football guy...Pegula and Brandon not so much... I think Pegs was blown away with Rex and they all went along for the ride...

I pretty much agree with your take on Chad...Not to say that he's the next great thing, but I don't even think he's a boom or bust type...I think his upside is really, really good because of his competitive nature and love for the game...And I think his downside will be somewhere in the Fitzpatrick range, probably a bit better because his arm is better... Chad's going to need some work for sure...It's going to depend...And most of it is going to depend on him...His approach, his attitude day in and day out...And how hard he's willing to work for it...He's going to have to land in the right spot, with the right coach, and reign in that gunslinger mentality just a little bit...I do think the Bills are a perfect fit for Kelly because they already have a strong running game and deep threats at WR...If Chad does get in there, we'll never have to worry about having a QB that will not give Sammy a chance to make plays all over the field, that's for sure... I rarely get high on QB prospects anymore...Too many busts...It's tiring...And in the analysis of Chad I constantly have to fight the fact that his Uncle and Godfather is my hero...But I like Chad a lot...I think he's going to be better than a lot of people do...I don't want to say which QB he reminds me of most...Because people will think I'm nuts...But I do want the Bills to Draft him...And I really don't care where they take him either...

I think there is logic in that take... I just doubt Tyrod and his agent will agree...Fitz got $12 mil with the chance to bump that to $15 mil...I think if it's a re-do, one year thing, TT's agent will want at least that...And I'm guessing the Jets figure that $12 mil was better spent elsewhere now...

Agreed... It's such huge money and implication on the cap... If TT had shown me just a little ability late in games when we needed a score over these 26 games...If he showed me command of the hurry up and just a little ability to throw receivers open I would definitely pause...But I don't see it in him...I see an excellent scrambling QB who is slow to process and literally the opposite of clutch...The bigger the moment, the more he wilts...I think he is what he is...He'll get most teams to somewhere around .500...If everything is perfect around him I think he can get you to the Playoffs...But everything has to be PERFECT... The way I see it Tyrod has already had all the opportunities he needed to earn that option...Seattle and Oakland alone would have the Bills in a great position to make the Playoffs right now...They lost the Baltimore, Miami, and Jets games by a combined 15 points...He's had all the opportunity in the world to be the star...He did not get it done...And I don't see any logic in rewarding him when we have no idea if he'll ever take the next...and most necessary step...

Blutarsky's grade point average...

Let me guess...he was decent for the first 3/4 of the Presser...But melted in the 4th?

He's #1 at something!!!

I hated the Sammy trade...Not because I disliked Sammy...I just don't believe in trading up like that...And if it was my pick that year, and the Bills did trade up, I would have taken Evans over Watkins...I thought Mike Evans was the best WR in that Draft class...Turns out there was one even better...But Whaley traded up, gave up a 1 and a 4 for (arguably) the 3rd best...Ouch... My main problem with Whaley is his willingness to trade Draft picks instead of collecting them...I hate that...It's a philosophy thing with me...The Bills are without a 4th this year because of it...I don't like giving up Draft picks... Other than that though I think Whaley has done OK...The Ragland injury REALLY hurt this year...Two 4th's to move up 8 spots...God I hate it...That 4th in 2016...117 overall...That was Dak Prescott right there...The Bills could have had him...But Whaley gave that 4th away to trade up for a LB who missed the whole season...Ouch again... I've never faulted them for the EJ pick because they traded down...got the extra pick...which turned out in a crazy way to be Shady... That's good Draft strategy...Just turned out EJ, like a million QB's before him, could not cut it... Good things happen when you get more picks...IMHO at least...

The Bills have bigger problems than Whaley...Much bigger problems... And I have absolutely no evidence to back this up...No one has told me anything about this...But I'll continue to believe till my dying day if the HC decision had been Whaley's alone to make there is no way Rex Ryan would be the Bills HC today...That's what my gut tells me...I could certainly be wrong...But I doubt it...

You pretty much expertly nailed Tyrod's deficiencies as an NFL QB in one sentence... Well done Sir!

There is absolutely no way anyone could convince me that TT is worth that kind of Cap gamble...No way...He's just not good enough to risk it...

I enjoy the Draft...Even though you're right...It seems like the Draft is our yearly highlight around here...Which is definitely sad... But good grief...I've been around here since the beginning...TBD is my home...I know there is plenty of football knowledge still around here...But when I see multiple suggestions of re-signing Fitz, I know it's time for a vacation...

2 threads right now with the OP suggesting the Bills sign Fitz... What the hell is going on here?

Wow! Great College player...Remember him well... RIP

Did anyone really think the Bills would be up 24-9 more than midway through the 3rd Quarter and seemingly be in total control of the game? It's not so much that they lost...It's that they completely blew a totally winnable game when they had it...They had it...A couple sustained drives on Offense...Almost any points for the rest of the game and they win it...They mainly needed to take time off the clock with a few 1st downs...But they gagged...Well...Mostly the QB gagged...But still... I mean...If you want to take the Rex route and just praise Oakland like they are the 78 Steelers and seemingly unbeatable, than I hear you...We had no business winning there...Those massive giants of the NFL who have one of the worst Defenses in then league..Yet...They managed to completely shut us out, when we had been moving the ball well most of the game, and outscore us 29-0 in the final 20 minutes...3 and outs, two turnovers, and not much Defense for the last 20 minutes...That was a joke...That should basically never happen in the NFL...At least not to a team that expects their fans to hope for the Playoffs... Faith? That was gone long ago...Over a decade ago...It's mostly disdain now for this bunch of chokers and their self-proclaimed Defensive genius of a HC...And mostly disdain for the chokers that came before them...Can't step up and beat a good team when they have them on the ropes...Year, after year, after year, after year of losing winnable games and "We'll get em' next year..." No...Faith is long gone...I'm stuck with them...Almost 50 years as a fan now...But I don't have to be blind...And I definitely don't have to accept it... I believe the statistical chances of the Bills making the Playoffs right now sits at about 10%...They grow to a little less than 30% if they beat Pittsburgh...I swear I'm not trying to be a jerk about this (I'm just a realist), but I think any Playoff talk at this point is basically the equivalent of a fantasy, wrapped in a pipe-dream...The Bills don't even belong in the Playoff picture...They are not good enough...They have beaten one good team...Of course that one good team was starting their 3rd sting injured QB...Other than that they have won 5 games against teams with an average of 3.2 wins so far this year...Playoffs?...

It's a fair point...But I think you're missing the obvious...Stepping over the dollar to grab the dime...If we had a QB that could consistently execute the plays called...A QB who could make the simple throws to keep the chains moving, especially on 3rd down...A QB who could process at an NFL level...A lot of the second thinking on formations and play calling would be completely unnecessary... The problem with wondering about things like getting Shady one-on-one out of the slot, or isolated out of the backfield, is there has to be an assumption that Tyrod will get him the ball...in stride...Taylor has not show that kind of consistency with any of the Bills receivers...So more than likely if they ran the play, and Shady got open, the ball would come to him high and wide...Or even more likely Tyrod would not see him, scramble to the perimeter, and throw the ball away if he can't run for a 1st down...

Absolutely... Love Shady and proud he is a Bill...

Totally agree...I think he's really improved... His QB not so much though...

Rex- "We're counting on our fans being there. People are writing us off. We need our fans to be a huge asset for us and believe they will." Well Rex...The fans were counting on you too...And you know how that has gone... Rex- "You gotta give the Raiders some credit. They made adjustments. Outside of one or two passes we really struggled." I notice Rex doing this a lot lately...He won't be critical of his QB when he can't hit the broad side of a barn...Or his crap defense...Or his crap defensive coaching...But darn those Raiders are good for being a football team and making adjustments... Some of the answers he gave in that post game presser were embarrassing...When asked about being gashed by the Raiders run game he brings up how the Bills gashed the Raiders worse...Well Rex...the Raiders are the 29th run defense in the NFL...So if that makes you feel better about your defense good for you... Anyway...I'm so sick of that guy...I really disliked the hire, but I was quickly snowed by Rex's charm...Should have know my gut was right on that one...My bad...But no more...

I absolutely think they are...Neither is an OLB...Neither played OLB in College...Granted they are athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4, but they certainly are not prototype...If anything Lawson is close to a prototype NFL 4-3 DE...And Hughes had great success as a 4-3 DE under Schwarz... Personally I think neither are 3-4 OLB's...I also think Rex is an idiot...So admittedly I'm biased in this area...

On this one I agree with the Bills...There's no reason to rush Cardale...Let him get a full off-season under his belt, then lets see what he's got in Training Camp next year...

Kyle