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Maybe Dustin Hopkins gets cut?...

Well...There you go...

The worry with Carpenter is...as good as he is when he is on...and that's VERY good...he still kicked his way out of Miami...These last two years in Buffalo he seemed to put it all together...But when you look back a bit it does get a little scary...Especially when he's struggling a bit...It's tough...Because the last two years he was money...

Ya...Agreed...But TSW might be the wrong place to look for that sort of thing...

Interesting... He reminded me a little of Terrell Davis when I first saw his College highlights...

SO true...

Rogers turned 25 in December of his 1st starting season...Manuel turned 25 in March... I want to preface this by saying I'm really excited about TT...I hope that kid tears it up...I never really expected EJ to get the start to begin the season...I do however think he should be the backup this year...I think it's smart to keep him tapped in to Roman as much as possible... I find it a little depressing almost that this whole EJ thing has made me not want to listen to WGR a week before the regular season...I love this time of year and want to hear as much about the Bills as possible... So now they have Sal...The one guy in there that actually has some real football knowledge...telling them EJ is improving...A fact that to me truthfully seems pretty clear...I mean...I remember what EJ looked like in preseason last year under the college guys...He certainly does not look that way this year...And even with Sal's blessing it's not enough for a guy like Coller who obviously knows better because he ran a QB algorithm... Sometimes I guess you just have to laugh...

Exactly...

Ha! That's exactly what I was thinking...

Really?

Why this concept is so hard to understand for some Bills fans and local media is well beyond my ability to comprehend...

Right...That's it...His obvious limitations as a young QB in the NFL...Who would have figured that could happen?

It's amazing how a non-local perspective completely differs where EJ is concerned...The other day on NFL Network Jaime Dukes was strongly suggesting the Browns go after EJ hard...It's obvious to football people outside of Buffalo...I just don't know wtf is going on here with the kid...It's like they are truly trying to run him out of town...

These idiots...Coller included...have simply dug in their heels and now they are going to lengths to back-up their assertions because (it's pretty obvious to me at least) they realize they realize their opinions are contrary to a greater portion of Bills fans...And I think also this is what stubborn people do when they realize they could be wrong... And please don't get me wrong...I'm not saying whatsoever that the greater portion of Bills fans believe EJ will become a Franchise QB...Heck...I really have no idea...Instead I believe the majority of us think it's absolutely ridiculous to make any definitive judgements based on his first two years in the NFL under a couple college coaches trying a run first offense that can't run the ball...That's all...I think the majority of us see EJ improving under good coaching and are quite frankly enamored with the possibilities if the kid actually has started the long trek towards his potential...

You beat me to it...

It never ends with that bunch... Like I said before...Not really sure what EJ Manuel did to these guys...But it must have been something really bad.... Or...maybe...It's simply a case of these idiots being caught up in what I'll call the "Russell Wilson Syndrome..." I'll define the RWS as the belief that any prospect QB will be able to show definitively whether or not they will be a Franchise-type QB within their 1st 16 starts...And...If they do not show this ability quickly any and all improvements after the first 16 starts will be considered too little too late...The RWS does not take into consideration coaching, supporting cast, play calling, or the ability to run the ball...It's a gut feeling your get by scientifically using the eyeball test and a mixture of the finest tea leaves...

Tim Graham...

I'm definitely concerned...At least for the short term...Indy is coming... I don't buy the excuses I'm hearing about the kid because he seems so completely lost when the ball is in the air to his man...I mean...Every CB can look bad at times...But then there's Darby...It's like a whole different level of looking bad with the ball in the air...I think he can pretty much run with anyone...But he's not playing the ball at all when it's up for grabs...He's completely getting out-positioned even though he seems to be in the general area...Plus...ticky-tack or not...He's getting too many PI's...He's a rookie...I actually expect those calls to go against him...He's not going to get away with squat until he can prove he can play... Do I think he's going to be OK in time? Sure...But right now he makes me very, very nervous...

I don't disagree...I just don't think NFL teams think that way...In the Bills case they have two healthy, young QB's that they likely believe they can win with...In fact I think it's important that they do feel that way...I think they lean way more towards best-case-scenario than the opposite...Just my opinion though...

Very true... Maybe Cassel playing decently in preseason will allow the Bills to get something for him...But to be honest, at that cap figure, I doubt it...

I don't think the Bills went into this thinking they would cut Cassel...Quite the opposite..But the way things played out it makes more sense...Things happen that you can't predict...EJ is clearly getting better and should improve even more under Roman as the season goes on...Simms could be kept on the PS for a little more insurance...It's a good chunk of cap money...If they don't think there is much difference between EJ and Cassel...and especially if they're planning on EJ being the back-up...Cassel needs to go...Let the young guys take this thing and run with it...

Valid point no question...

Exactly... Like I said before...On one hand they praise Roman's offense and his coaching ability...On the other hand they don't think EJ can get any better under him...It literally makes zero sense...