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I agree about your assessment of the past 3 drafts. Certainly not good enough. I am not a draft expert. I watch a lot of college football. But follow the teams more then the individual players. Except for my beloved Michigan Wolverines. My older son who plays college football, did not like the Epenesa or Basham picks. Thought neither was going to do much in the pros. And he was right so far. Why do you think Beane is missing the mark so much with our draft picks. (I certainly did not like drafting Spencer Brown and Tommy Doyle to play OT. Why draft two small college guys to play O line in the NFL? It just make much sense.) I am not in total agreement about your assessment of the Jets or the Dolphins. I don't see Aaron Rodgers dominating anymore. He certainly wasn't great last year. And I am not sold on any team that has Tua as their starter. The Bills weakness has been their O line. It has not been close to good enough. We get that in order, I see us ruling the division again this year.

Thanks for that memory. Another horror show in the Gator Bowl. Wow we were bad that day. Agree about his first two years. He has definitely evolved into a top QB.

I think its refreshing that McDaniels is sort of old school. Doesn't give a flip about his players feelings. Modern players in all sports seem so coddled now. These guys get paid big money. Toughen up. Act like men. Who cares if the coach said a player is getting married. That should not be secretive. Regardless, I doubt that's why he got traded. Dude is injured more then he plays. Make him the Giants problem. Playing in the cold of the Meadowlands, Waller will continue to be injured.

That's a pretty dark summary of where our team stands right now. Do you think at this point in his career that Rodgers is leading the Jets anywhere? He is done. He knows it. And so do the Packers. The Dolphins are the Dolphins. Lots of hype, but they still have Tua, a bad O line, and a bunch of overpriced names like Bradley Chubb on defense. The Bills are still the class of the division. The Bernard pick was questionable. Not sure what they saw in this kid that makes him a 3rd round pick. I think Baylen Spector has some upside. Kid played at Clemson. They teach strong defense there. And he looked good in the preseason. But then the Biils never dressed him. They need to start playing guys they draft. I don't know a lot about McGovern. But he played a lot on a good Cowboys O line. He has to be an upgrade over the turnstile that was Saffold. Beane has to start hitting on his free agent signings and draft choices. The roster is not nearly as good as we thought going into last season. But its not a mess, except for the O line. Letting Edmunds go was a smart move by the team. Can't pay big money for mediocrity. Lets hope two months from now after the draft and free agency are over, that the roster is taking shape in a real solid way. Go Bills.

Josh Allen wasn't on the 2017 team that played in Jacksonville in the playoffs. That was the Tyrod Taylor handicapped offense my friend. The defense has not been good enough in the playoffs. That is undisputed. But the team overall has not been good enough in the playoffs, including coaching. Lets hope the Cincinnati game was a big time awakening for the organization from top to bottom.

Dave I usually like your views. But have to disagree about Edmunds. He was overdrafted. And now is getting overpaid.

He was excellent as a punt returner. And he didn't suck at CB. He wasn't great. But he had some good play for us. Roscoe Parrish made some splash on punt returns. He sure was small though.

I believe you are right. But I think it was with the game tied, and we then took over. And Josh threw that dart down the seem to Diggs to set up the winning FG as time expired. Regardless Klein is solid. May not be super athletic. But has great instincts on where the play is going.

You forgot about Terrance McGee on Kickoffs. And Leodis McKelvin on punts.

That is one of the funniest things I have ever read on here. My girlfriend and I were in stitches reading that. Great comment. Was he supposed to live to 110? He was a great coach, and a real solid solid human being. I remember games as a kid from Metropolitan Stadium. It was like watching football at the North Pole. RIP Bud. You were what football and life were all about!

The only thing you have going for you is your user name bro. Give it a rest. You can have your opinion about Edmunds. But to say that great players should not dominate every week is just plain wrong. The great ones are great because they do dominate every week. Maybe not every play. And not every series. But they very rarely have a bad game. Do you think LT, Bruce, Reggie White, Ronnie Lott, or Ray Lewis had bad games?? Not many. The bar of what is considered great today has certainly been lowered. Judging by how many people get in the HOF each year now. Or what the talking heads on ESPN think is "great" every day. Justin Herbert is the perfect example of that. He hasn't done *****. But because he is 6'6 and can throw the ball, he is considered great by many. If he played when QB's were fair game, he would be another Rob Johnson. Let some other ***** team with lots of cap space pay Edmonds. We aren't winning big time with guys like that. And as for A J Klein, anyone who can play for at least 10 years in the NFL, and be a solid player on several teams is more than the scrub you think he is. My son is eligible for the draft this year. Plays OLB/edge rusher. I would be ecstatic if he has a career like A J Klein. Tough smart and show up every day as a leader. And make plays when called upon. Thats a professional.

Thats an interesting question. I love Milano's game. I would take another Milano in a heartbeat. So what how tall Edmunds is. He can't cover Travis Kelce who is the same size. And for that matter AJ Klein is way more instinctual on the field then Edmunds is. He has lasted over 10 years in the league. He just does not have athleticism that Edmunds has. I don't hate Edmunds. He was a lot better last season. I just would not pay him big money, because he is not a special player is all. To make big money you should dominate every week.

Those are some strong numbers for sure for London. Not sure I would put him in the HOF. But definitely in the Hall of Very Good. And he would get some consideration for the HOF. I thought he was a really good player though. Brought his best every week. Was a strong leader. Got the most out of his game. Edmonds played better last year. But disappeared in the playoffs. His pass coverage skills are overrated. He seems to get lost in space, and loses track of guys. His instincts for the position are marginal. I am sure someone will offer him a big contract, because of his size and length. But he is not a very good football player. Nick Bolton for the Chiefs and Logan Wilson for the Bengals are good football players. Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde are good football players. (unfortunately Poyer is beaten up at this point.) We need more good football players around Josh Allen to contend for a Super Bowl.

Beast I think he needs you as his agent. But don't show prospective teams him trying to cover Travis Kelce, because it will not look too good.

Is Landry still in the league? I don't know if he can run under 5.0 anymore. And don't we still owe him a head shot after he ended Aaron Williams' career what seems like years ago?

Good response Newcam. I was being somewhat fascetious. I agree this is a big offseason for the Bills. And I also agree that things are not as rosy as they have been the past couple offseasons. That being said, I believe that the Cincinnati game was a big cold slap in the face for the entire organization. Beane likes to act like the coolest guy in the room. That's his MO. But I think he will make some solid moves building our roster for 2023. We need to be much stronger on the O line. And need more weapons for Josh Allen. I am fine with letting Edmonds walk. He is a good player. But is not a gamechanger or overly nasty mean and instinctive. I believe he is replaceable. I think Poyer is a better football player. But injuries have taken their toll like they do on most veterans at some point. I did like McDermott saying in one interview that we need to be nastier on defense. That makes me feel better knowing that he sees what needs improving on the defense. But in today's NFL, games are usually won with a whole bunch of offense. (look at the Super Bowl) So lets put our best resources there. I wasn't a Nascar fan until 2020. But now I watch every race. Full Swing is a good documentary series on the PGA. The second episode was about Brooks Koepka. He was just crumbling last year after dominating in 2017-2019. His mind is a mess. And he was just miserable on the course and at home. But his girlfriend/fiance is pretty hot. So he does have that going for him.

A little dramatic, don't you think Newcam?? Season doesn't start for 6 months. If Chuck Clark was that good, I don't think the Ravens would have just let him go for a 7th round pick. And that's fine if the AFC East is a dogfight. We have the best player in the division, if the not the entire league. Try and relax. Watch some Nascar for awhile. And there is also a good series on Netflix about the PGA Tour called Full Swing. I would recommend it.

I did not say it was all Edmunds fault. Obviously not the case. But I certainly would not pay him upwards of $15 million/year to be a decent player at best.

Chicago has lots of money. Edmunds can replace Roquan Smith. And make lots of money, and lose lots of games. The defense needs a fresh look. And some meanness in the middle. We did not win or play well on defense in crunch time in the playoffs. Time for some new blood to hopefully get us get over the top.

Davante Adams is a much better football player then Tremaine Edmunds. There has to be a Nick Bolton-Logan Wilson type player in the middle rounds that can come in and make plays on defense.

That game was quite a beat down by the Browns. I seem to recall a big Browns-Steelers playoff game in the early 2000's between Kelly Holcomb and Tommy Maddox where each guy threw for close to 400 yards. I think the Steelers won that game though. Browns have not had too many big wins in the modern era. I remember the loss in 1980 to the Raiders in the frigid cold of Memorial Stadium when Brian Sipe threw the last second pick by Mike Davis in the end zone. The field was like concrete. LOL

Can we resign Edmunds and trade him straight up to the Titans for Henry? They just released a couple decent LB's. Maybe knucklehead Vrabel can throw in a 3rd or 4th back to us as well?

Watson looked lousy when he came back late last season. He should be better next season. But still QB's seem to still go to die in Cleveland. Baker was nothing special with them. And he was the first pick that year. He was overdrafted. But playing with Hue Jackson and then Freddy Kitchens as your head coach is tough. And Stefanski hasn't done a whole lot better. I dare say that the height of Cleveland Browns football in the modern era was their win over the Bills in the 1989 wild card game. A game for the ages. Maybe they should have never left Memorial Stadium even when they came back to the NFL in 1999. LOL.

Lamar and Mark Andrews have a real good connection together. The 15 yard crossing route Andrews loves to run from right to left across the field to the sideline has worked wonders for them. But even with that, the Bills have owned Lamar in all 3 games they played against him. Even the one in Buffalo that we lost during the regular season.

The whole team did not show up. But the defense was manhandled on the first two drives. That set the tempo. Cinci had receivers wide open all over the field. And they ran the ball at will up the middle. You could tell right away we were not ready to compete against the Bengals. That game and to a lesser degree, the Miami game the week before (even though we won) was a total failure by the organization. They need to own it, and do WHATEVER it takes to be a better overall team in all facets next season. There is nothing we can not improve on from our play in the 2022 season. It is not so much our record. Because we will have a very difficult schedule. But more are we just nasty to play against. And can we impose our will on our opponents on offense defense and special teams whenever we need to? And lets not leave out coaching. It has to be much better against the best teams, especially come playoff time. If McDermott and crew can not show that this season. Time for a change after 2023.