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LOL. Right. They beat the piss out of us two years ago. And this year, once their offense got going after the first couple of drives, we had no answer for them. Period. Yeah, what's there to worry about?

No, respectfully disagree, and wrong again. I get what you are saying, but Collnsworth is constantly hated on Social Media for being biased. We maybe didn't realize it as much as we did last night for obvious reasons of being bad for so long, but my god he was bad. Collinsworth is absolutely hated by many teams and their fanbases for this type of "color analysis". And to make things even worse, the guy that almost nobody has a problem with, Al Michaels, is the one getting the boot next year, and not Collinsworth. We don't have a thread on here, probably because then you'd have a thread about Collinsworth and 400 other people who get mad because people actually make football threads on a football message board about football. There was no doubt he was biased last night. Al Michaels was even uncomfortably presenting another side because he realized it. He even prefaced it once with something like......"albeit to Buffalo fans, they have an argument"....... I'm personally not mad if Collinsworth likes the Chiefs better, or talks more about the Chiefs. But last night was absolutely ridiculous. He's a national guy that is supposed to be somewhat impartial and objective. And although color is subjective, he was so one sided last night, in a game that was absolutely one sided the other way than his viewpoint, that he sounded like an idiot. Of course he said a few good things about the Bills. How could anyone not last night? But overall, he was god awful. And on most weeks, he regularly gets roasted by some fanbases for being that way. Last night, we got a taste of it. I could care less what he thinks, but there is no other way around the fact that viewers have to tune in to hear the game....... or you have to listen to a delayed broadcast or nothing at all. None of which are good options. Get Drew Brees on the broadcast. It's already so painfully obvious that a guy like Brees would be so much better and more knowledgeable. Time for a change. Collinsworth has lived a charmed life. Let the new, and more informed, people take over. Everyone wins that way.

Nah. He was brutal, and a ton of other fans from other teams around the country are not only talking about it, but roasting him for it as well. And he doesn't do play by play, he does color. Al Michaels does play by play and is fine. He's a good listen. Collinsworth, when doing whatever it was he was doing last night, was borderline ridiculous and insufferable. Collinsworth cheapened the broadcast. Most of the country, that he also annoyed, wasn't wrong.

God awful. It was bad enough a lot of the night and then he just kept going and going moving on to other parts of the Chiefs staff/players. So, OK, the Chiefs are good. You like them. Fine. But my god. And then, the roughly 45 minutes of ball washing that he started in the 2nd half of Steve Spagnola is when it actually pushed me over the edge. Let's see what Spags comes up with. Watch Spags here. My goodness, Spags is making them guess on if he's bringing pressure or not. This guy Spags is going to get the Chiefs back in the game. Spags, spags, spags. What? He made Spagnola out to be Buddy Ryan for a while. Their defense sucks. They sucked again. And Spags had ZERO answers last night. I usually don't mind announcers either, but he was so blatantly biased last night, that if you watch the game again, even Al Michaels was trying to even him out a bit. Michaels could sense it. Nauseating last night. Absolutely has to be one of his worst games as a national announcer, ever.

Miami, Warshington and Houston. It's really that simple. EDIT - Just saw Gugny's post. Amen! I'll give you a courtesy like.

And are both completely subjective because someone is grading them based on their opinion.

So let me get this straight. PFF covers football ad nauseum, yet they suck. Their opinion is garbage, right? But we have an internet poster, that I've seen so many people in this post call "objective" analysis, even though it's the furthest thing from objective. Which is OK. It's the OP's viewpoint on what he saw. It's not objective either. They make think it is, but there all kinds of hints to a subjective viewpoint. The OP's analysis, is totally the definition of subjective. PFF and the OP both have put out subjective analysis, and of course, some of you are using each entity to support your own side of the argument citing whichever analysis you agree with as objective. LOL. Completely laughable. And note....please note.....I gave no opinion on which subjective analysis I think is correct (OP or PFF). That makes this post completely OBJECTIVE as it relates to both the OP or PFF being wrong or right about Edmunds. I'm calling either one right or wrong, but drawing my own conclusions about what each one has put out there.

As a longtime high school football defensive coordinator, making a play you are supposed to make, is your job/assignment. That stuff is expected of a starter whether its 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 4th down. Being the most physically intimidating, and built, football player on your team....and arguably in the entire league....but being a finesse player is a letdown. Period. For the 50th time, it doesn't make him a bad player, but it's extremely frustrating that he isn't a game wrecker that his physical stature hints he should be. It's as simple as that.

No, and again, stats have no bearing on what I said. None. Who doesn't make a 1 on 1 play, or multiple one on ones at some point in a football game? They all do. I want Edmunds to play as physical as his size. These are things that aren't measured by stats geeks or analytics. Analytics and stats have a huge place in sports, but so does common sense and your eyes. If you get a guy that is as physically gifted as Edmunds, you would want him to singlehandedly wreck a game or maybe two by himself on a given years schedule. Bruce Smith vs. Phil Hansen. Hansen was a nice player. Smith was a game wrecker. I want Edmunds to be so physically dominant in some games that he is pretty much the reason a team has folded. Unfortunately for him his size, span, and athleticism screams for that to happen.......and then all you get is finesse. And I'm almost positive that when the Bills drafted Edmunds, they did so knowing how young he was, and how well his body was going to still grow. That growth, I'm sure, they hoped would turn into all pro physicality, and it just hasn't, or at least it hasn't yet. It's disappointing. Not so much disappointing in the man himself, but with his body, you want game changing plays. Not a stop one on one here and there.....you want him to singlehandedly cave an entire side of the field just because he's so dominant, physical and aggressive. AJ Klein isn't built to accomplish this, but Edmunds is. In fact, Matt Milano, who is not as gifted physically as Edmunds, arguably already had one of these types of games this season. Given Edmunds size, when is he going to be the beast that he physically is? He may never get there, and it doesn't mean he is a bad player.....but it leaves everyone wanting more......always.

I agree with a lot of what is said here. Except, we have no idea how good our defense is right now. We've played Big Ben, Tua, Brissett, and Heinicke. Next week is Davis Mills. We will find out a lot about our defense when we play real teams......at KC and at Tennessee back to back. And after next week, what gets a bit frustrating, is when you have a physical specimen the size of Edmunds never really making physical, game changing plays or splash plays. Everyone can throw all of the stupid stats at me as much as they want, but I want my high draft pick, that is naturally built like an un-earthly god, to make a few physical splash plays a game and intimidate the opposing team and it's offense. Edmunds looks like a guy that should be able to single handedly neutralize Henry from Tennessee, but that is probably not going to happen. He doesn't do that. He's a freakishly built specimen that is a finesse player thus far, and that just leaves a huge wanting for more by everyone. That being said, he's nowhere near a bad football player. He's also not nearly as good as his reputation right now either.

It's amazing for a network that has gone so far downhill.....that they can produce some of the best documentaries with the 30 for 30s. They are the one amazing constant on a network that sucks, other than live sporting events.

Section 134, my wife and I had our masks on the entire game. Outdoors. And it was odd, even though I would put mask wearing people in outdoor seats at about 5%, the two women in front of us had their masks on, and the two women beside us had theirs on. Definitely the minority though. It was our choice, so, it didn't bother me that nobody was really wearing masks. To each their own. We knew we were making the choice to be somewhere that people weren't going to be wearing masks. However, the Bills Mgmt looked like idiots the day before inside of the Bills store. And again, we knew people weren't going to wear masks, so I' have no problem with people not wearing masks. However, if you are going to announce rules about mask wearing in certain areas of the stadium, and not follow them one bit.....IMO......the Bills themselves caused a bunch of this mandate as well. Hardly any people were wearing masks in the packed Bills Store on Saturday. And to boot, half of the cashiers weren't either......OR........they had them pulled down below their nose or on their chin. If the Bills employees themselves weren't wearing them, or not wearing them properly.....come on. Just don't even mandate it then. The Bills attempt at enforcing even an area, that could have easily been enforced, was a joke. I'm not surprised there is now a vaccine mandate. Poor effort all around to enforce any part of what was made a big deal that they were requiring in certain parts of the stadium.

Total agreement here on one thing.....1000 isn't a big deal. It's 58 yards per game. I'm just more worried that Daboll starts having an adjustment ready for when things aren't going well. Our offense has been pretty much shut down their last three games. I'm not scared yet, but it's becoming worrisome. I also don't mind if we pass a lot, but my god, at some point we have to be able to run the ball a bit, even when the other team is suspecting us to do so. It's a mindset from the coaching staff and the guys up front. We need to run it some. And what Singletary did Sunday, with basically the one good series, isn't running the ball with a mindset to get it done. I think Singletary is fine for this team. It was simply what the Steelers decided to give us at that point in the game. I think the OC needs to treat the RB's as though they are capable of playing ball in the NFL and let them go a bit more. Come on Daboll, we need you now. Show some diversity in that playbook, and create a tad more balance.

The mobile app blows. Period. The ticketing with people's phones blow. I keep hearing how easy it is, but seeing post after post after post about how it's not working correctly. In the season ticket holders group on FB, there are craploads of people having problems with it and posting asking for help. People's tickets disappearing off of it, not being able to log in, not being able to transfer tickets to their phone wallet or to anyone else. That doesn't even scrape the surface of non-tech people wanting nothing to do with it. But yet, some of us will be right there.....with our season ticket cards.....holding them up, getting them scanned, and walking through the gate in like 2 seconds. I don't get it with the mobile ticketing. Get the card (if you are a season ticket holder), get a keepsake, and walk right through the gate with absolutely zero brain power needed. No wifi, phone wallet, blinged out case, Bills themed encoded bar graph thingy, calls to your ticket rep, or even charged battery needed. Just you and your card and a few working fingers on either hand to hold it up. I must be getting old. In fact, I am getting old. I just wish they made turnstiles for those of us with the cards, and those with tickets on their phone. Get off my lawn.

HA! YES!!! Go Bills. Go Diggs.

My favorite part of this is that McDermott was 5-2 against every coach ahead of him last year on that list. The two losses both to KC. Ummmm, yeah. I'll take our coach any day.

I guarantee this game will be full. With how connected the world is nowadays, there are always tickets listed for sale, and in what seems like large-ish numbers online for any game in both college and pro. This game will be full 100% in person. It most likely will be the best atmosphere in the NFL week 1. Nothing better than a rising franchise wanting to send a close by marquee franshise home reeling. Another great game on paper is obviously Cleveland at KC. If that game was in Cleveland, it would give our atmosphere a run, but it's in KC. And while KC is a great NFL city, after you start winning all of time, your crowd gets a bit mellow in the regular season. Our game has all of the ingredients that the NFL is going to want to show, and the stadium will be full. There's no doubt in my mind whatsoever.

Agreed. Probably one of most boring and useless HK ever. However, I will say that I did enjoy the RB that they were all ribbing about the 1 and 1 thing with his contact lens. LOL. Dude, totally made up his own phrase for something that nobody had any idea what he was talking about it. I thought that was pretty hilarious. McCarthy looks like a total douche. As big of a diva that Aaron Rogers seems to be, maybe he had a point about McCarthy.

Disagree 100%. The stadium will be totally full. It's the first time in two years that almost everyone can come back. The Bills are a great team and the Steelers are a marquee franchise. Steelers fans travel well, are close by, and Bills fans are excited. The demand for this game is/will be through the roof. In my section, tickets are listed on the aftermarket at least double face value. The biggest thing that sucks is if the Canadian Season Ticket holders have to put their tickets up for sale, that will open the market big time to Pittsburgh fans, and that sucks. At the same time, however, those tickets will be gobbled up easily on the secondary market. This game will be packed. There's 0% chance that every seat isn't filled.

The roar of the crowd and then the DUUUUKE chant gives me chills. AT Tennessee. Total stadium takeover.

Along with all of the other things said in this thread, much of them having to do with technical stuff about Boogie, he had a less than stellar debut. A lot of football really isn't that complicated as you simply have to beat your guy physically and usually you win. There are obviously many ways to do that. However, what was alarming to me was that Boogie looked fat and slow for a DE. Period. After I discovered where he was on the field and watched for a few plays, he was extremely slow off the ball as well. The worst player on the field with his first steps off the ball. For a DE, unless executing some sort of stunt, It was alarming to me. However, it's also the first pre-season game, so not really a big deal yet. However, it wasn't a great first impression. I almost wondered that, if he really is as good as has being pushed out to us fans, maybe one day he moves inside? It can, and will, improve. But first impressions were pretty rough. It's so nice, however, to have such a good team. Because while we need him, it's not the end of the world if he needs time to develop and maybe change some of his body makeup a bit.

The Bills brought in Josh Norman last year. The chemistry will be fine with Ertz.

Movin' the Chains on Sirius is an excellent show. I don't listen as often as I used to listen, but having Pat Kirwan add insight as a former GM is fantastic. Miller is good too, but having Kirwan there is terrific in my opinion. Pat was GM'ing during some of the years in which the Bills were in their prime Super Bowl runs. Thus, he's always treated Buffalo as a respectable franchise, because he always knew them as a reputable franchise. This was true, especially through the drought, and he's always indicated that when Buffalo gets things going in the right direction again, playing in Western New York, and in front of a rabid fanbase was extremely difficult. Miller and Kirwan, both, are very patient listeners with callers as well. The patience they show, despite obviously knowing a ton more than a lot fans is a great strength of theirs. I like Kirwan simply because he has always treated Buffalo as a relevant franchise......even though.....we were largely irrelevant for a long time.

Not football, but I will say having season tickets from Virginia, and traveling up for a lot of games, the Washington game became exciting for my wife and I in Buffalo week 3. Eric Church is downtown on Saturday Night, and the Bills on Sunday. Can't wait for that weekend. We were praying the Bills were in town on that Eric Church weekend.